Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Because of the NFL bullcrap.

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

The NFL needs to chill on the QB contact rules. The helmet to helmet I get, excessively late hit I get, hitting a QB while he's sliding I get, but this "landing on the QB" and "picking up QB and driving him to the ground" and specific "target window" where you can hit a QB is just way too broad and the increased emphasis is ridiculous. If they are going to do all this then they need to also count two-hand touch on the QB as an automatic sack so the defense actually can do something again.

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Chilling isn't going to happen. The NFL realizes that there's only about 15 guys on the planet that can play the position well, and that almost everything that brings fans into the games revolve around them. I saw an interview with Von Miller yesterday where he points out that QBs need to be upright for the game to survive.

Defenders will learn new skills. And likely it'll look a lot like 2 handed touch. Sacks will likely turn into a combination of swatting the ball and shoving the QB off balance. The swat will ensure the ball cannot be delivered and hopefully cause a fumble and the shove to put the QB on his back and down without laying on him.

Welcome to the new NFL. When QBs are being paid nearly $35 million a year and teams are dead without them, this is the new reality.

SFIAH

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

make the fines a percent of the salary and see how quickly you see a difference

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Do you really want to make defenders hurt? Make it a percentage of the QB's salary. Then QB's will never get touched again.

SFIAH

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

We all get it but the "new rule" & the application of it stinks. At the end of the day, I guess the league got what they wanted. Allow a star QB another chance during the 2 minute drill with everything on the line.

The new NFL needs to admit Matthews hit on Cousins was legal and move on.

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Instead they're using it as an example of what not to do. In other words, please do not tackle the QB.

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

I know it seems like I'm defending the rule. I don't really like it, but I understand where the NFL is coming from with it.

The official ruling is that it was a foul because Matthews picked him up. Any lifting of the QB is consider a precursor for driving the QB into the ground.

The whole process is dumb. QBs cannot be tackled legally in any real sense. Any action looking like a legit tackle comes across as driving into the ground. That's why the new QB "tackle" is going to be shoving. No lift. No full weight. No driving.

Again I believe the key is going to wrapping up the QBs arms so that no forward motion can occur. It's going to be a pin the arms and shove move.

I think this illustrates the type I'm talking about


SFIAH

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

They should also make it an automatic "unsportsmanlike" penalty for a QB to start a fake slide.
I've seen it too many times where a QB will start to slide, defenders will start to pull up, then the QB abandons the slide, take two or three more steps, then slide for real.

Defenders will get heavily penalized for hitting a sliding QB, and a few QBs are exploiting that to gain yards unfairly.

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Meh ...

Defenders might as well greet a QB with a hug, kiss and a balloon, then gently lay him down on the ground :rolleyes:.

But it's the "new NFL & rules" & I get it.