Josh Gordon
 

Why not call him?

Re: Josh Gordon
 

It sounds like the Browns are fielding trade offers.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

I wouldn't take the risk. The talent is tempting, but he's not serious about football. He's another indefinite suspension waiting to happen.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

We sure as :censored: need another WR, but I don't see it happening.

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I wouldn't.

Terrific talent but you can't trust Gordon.

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I hope he does well in life but I think he shouldn't play football but focus on getting his life together.

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Exactly. He certainly hasn't put his issues behind him. There's still problems and the Browns are being quiet about them out of pure professionalism.

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Yeah. The Browns organization has had a lot of issues but by all accounts they have gone above and beyond to help Gordon.

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I don’t understand why the NFL continues to suspend people for marijuana when we’re likely headed for the end of its prohibition. It’s alresdy legal in several states, so the NFL should back of on it. We’d likely get him for the league minimum because of his issues. I can’t see a negative.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

We probably should first call some free agent defensive ends, or a shrink for our current defensive linemen.

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Because it's a performance enhancer for some players. There are many supplements on the market that are legal to buy and use by the public that league athletes in many sports cannot use. For some, Marijuana enhances pain management, coordination of some skills, etc. for others, not so much.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

But they can take a Lortab and Vicodin to deal with things. I’m not buying it.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Agreed. I'd call Dez before him. And I'm not sure I'd call Dez.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Go get the help you need.

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We don’t need Josh Gordon... We just need to get Cameron Meredith and Tre’Quan Smith going.

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No I meant there's more to this story. They're being nice and not making his issues public.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Gordon's first two NFL seasons were highly productive; in 2013, his second season, he led all players in receiving yards and was a first-team All-Pro selection. In his NFL career, Gordon has been suspended multiple times for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy. He was indefinitely suspended by the league for his fourth violation during the 2014 season, being unable to play for the rest of that season, along with the entirety of the next two seasons. Following a lengthy rehabilitation period, he was reinstated midway through the 2017 season. Wiki

Re: Josh Gordon
 

We have enough receivers.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Once Ingram is back we will have more balance. Other receivers will get chances. I think Smith emerges but it needs to happen quick

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Why do you think rules should be changed because something MIGHT become legal? The NFL is full of hypocrisy and inconsistent rule enforcement, but this is one thing I won't disagree with them on. The law is what it is, right now, and so there is a policy against smoking weed, and he continually breaks that rule.

If you have such an addiction to something, that you can't cut it out to keep a job that pays you millions of dollars, then you have a serious problem. It's not just a harmless recreational thing, at that point. Drinking IS legal, but if you are abusing alcohol, you have a problem.

I am of the opinion that marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol. But I don't think it is something that should be used irresponsibly. Ricky Williams knew the rules, and so he just left the country to pursue whatever weird stuff he was/is into, where he could smoke as much as he wanted.

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Its just a red flag to me that after all the chances he has had he doesn't show up for camp. That just doesn't sound at all like a team player.

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I for one would give him a chance. Weed is not that big a problem to me but you have to follow the rules and to be able to make that kind of money just give it up for a while and make those paychecks. Not sure what is going on with Meredith or Smith. Not sure what is going on with Bree's He really had a bad game. This team really knows how to stink it up offense was horrible Cleveland has a better defense than advertised but a horrible job by the "O"

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Addiction is a disease. Millions of dollars. No dollars. It’s far more complicated to quit something the body is craving than many think. Some quit, cold turkey. Others struggle. I’m not concerned about his addiction to marijuana. Hungry. Sleepy. Lethargic. Don’t care.

As far as legality, I’m positive it will become legal. What if he played for the Broncos? He’s in a state where it’s fine but he still can’t because they rather him pop prescription pills to deal with things? Like I said...I’m just not buying it.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Um because dude has been on a 6 year ride to and from Loony Town?

Do you really want a guy that missed a game from a pulled hamstring from a photo shoot for his own clothing line? Seriously?

SFIAH

Re: Josh Gordon
 

I beg to differ!!! It helps me with my ADHD!!! I also take multiple prescriptions including Xanax........but a couple of puffs takes all the tenseness away. :beatnik:

Don't judge me until you walk a football field in my cleats.

Edit: I am probably the most tightly wound person you ever met......before I smoke. After that........it's all good!

Re: Josh Gordon
 

I don't have a problem calling him if he is cut. I wouldn't trade anything for him though.

Get him in sign him and help keep him clean. As soon as he pops on a test you can him.

For those of you who wouldn't sign him... INGRAM.

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I think that's an apples and gorillas comparison. It's not like Ingram is a perpetual violator with multiple suspensions over multiple seasons. It's also not like Ingram is a distraction when he is in fact ready to play. Gordon has been both. Dude is just flat unreliable. That's why the Browns are finally cutting bait on that talent.

Ingram's going to come back looking for that final big contract. I fully expect him to not only come back, but to ball out in the last 12 games.

So in short, no extra chance for Gordon.

SFIAH

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Pats get him for a 5th rounder. He’ll have a career year.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Yea, and for a lot of people popping a few Vicodin can give you just as big a rush as snorting a couple of rails of coke. They are without a doubt performance enhancing. It can absolutely increase your ability to focus and boost energy.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Nope. Dude just doesn't get it. Serious addict. This is his shot, IN HIS LIFE, to make millions of dollars. He can't stay sober. He tweaks his hammy on a photo shoot? It's ALL right in front of him. Spelled out in black and white. And he just can't get it.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Then isn't everyone an addict? Some people are addicted to their work, some people are addicted to food, some people are addicted to tea/coffee, some people romance, some people gardening, sleeping, alcohol. Everyone is an addict. When people remove one of them from their lives, they usually just replace it with another. Some addictions are more physically threatening than others. Some people also live more balanced lives(doing a little of everything). I don't think anyone can really escape the "addict" label though.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Well if Meridith could get his ass on the field.
He’s had plenty of time now to get in sync with Drew. He’s either not getting it done or is still injured. Don’t know what to think at this point.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

There is a huge difference between drug abuse an addiction. Ingram is suspended for using a drug ruled to be performing enhancing. It had nothing to do with the leagues substance abuse policy. With Ingram it was a one time thing.

Apparently with Gordon he had violated the substance abuse policy on multiple occasions and has displayed behavior of someone who suffers from an addiction. All the suspensions and money in the world can’t help that. In his case a behavior pattern. The only person who can help Gordon is Gordon. Apparently he either cannot or will not stick with his rehabilitation program. I doubt the Browns would have let him go if he was serious about sobriety. It’s not like they don’t need all the good players they can get.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Done. Traded to the Patriots for a 5th.

SFIAH

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As a Saints fan I would hope you would finally know how to spell your player's name. It's not Meridith, it is Meredith. It has been bugging the crap out of me that you don't even know your players' names. With a little connection it should be a given.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

We don't need the grammar and spelling police here. If that's your angle you need to find a hobby.

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No. Not my angle. But if you can't even spell your player's name right how much credibility can be assumed?

Huh?

Re: Josh Gordon
 

I don’t change my spell check until a player actually plays a game for us. He contributes enough for me to talk about him regularly and I’ll change it. Until then it’s not worth my time. I’m going with what’s in my phone. Meridith.

Re: Josh Gordon
 

Shows how little you care.