Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out

jeanpierre · 09-18-2018, 12:08 AM

jeanpierre · 09-18-2018, 12:09 AM

BY JOEL A. ERICKSON SEP 17, 2018 - 6:02 PM

New Orleans handed off the ball 10 more times against the Cleveland Browns than the Saints did in the opener, and the game was far from the kind of shootout that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers brought to the Superdome.

But Alvin Kamara is still getting a heavier workload than a back typically gets in the Saints offense.

One week after playing 52 snaps against the Buccaneers, Kamara took 51 against the Browns, even though the Saints only took two more plays on offense.

Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry.

Until Mark Ingram comes back from suspension in week five against Washington, Kamara might have to carry a heavy load, even though the Saints are worried about taking too much tread off of his tires.

"I worry about workload relative to the running back position," Saints coach Sean Payton said on Monday.

With that, here's a look at a few other observations from Sunday's game.

New Orleans ran a lot more sets with two tight ends in this game, a fact evidenced by 20 fewer snaps for wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. and 15 more for tight end Josh Hill. Slot receiver Austin Carr actually took two more snaps than Ginn, getting 32, even though his snaps were also down nine from the Tampa Bay game.
Veteran tackle Jermon Bushrod appears to be the Saints' sixth lineman in the jumbo package this season. Bushrod played six snaps in that role.
Rookie wide receiver Tre'Quan Smith's workload increased a bit, from 12 snaps to 22.
With Tyeler Davison out, the Saints leaned heavily on Sheldon Rankins (50 snaps) to carry the load, along with David Onyemata (42). Undrafted rookie Taylor Stallworth took 26 snaps, half of the 52 Davison took in the opener.
The linebacker rotation is still changing. After playing every snap against Tampa Bay, Demario Davis's workload dropped to 68 percent, and A.J. Klein's workload went from the lightest to the heaviest in one week. This situation might not be settled for a while.
Vonn Bell and Kurt Coleman might find themselves in the same situation at strong safety. After Coleman took seven more snaps than Bell in Week One, Bell beat out Coleman by the same margin in Week Two.
Special-teams leaders: Taysom Hill 23, Craig Robertson 23, Chris Banjo 17, Justin Hardee 16, J.T. Gray 15.

Saints 2018 Snap Counts
Table: INJ = injured; INA = inactive; X = not on 53-man roster.

Quarterback	TB	CLE	TOTAL	PCT
Drew Brees	64	66	130	100%
Taysom Hill	1	0	1	0.8%

Running backs
Alvin Kamara	52	51	103	79.2%
Mike Gillislee	7	9	16	12.3%
Jonathan Williams	3	6	9	6.9%

Wide receivers
Michael Thomas	61	58	119	91.5%
Ted Ginn Jr.	50	30	80	61.5%
Austin Carr	43	32	75	57.7%
Tre'Quan Smith	12	22	34	26.2%
Tommylee Lewis	5	0	5	3.8%

Tight ends/fullbacks
Benjamin Watson	51	54	105	80.8%
Josh Hill	24	39	63	48.5%
Zach Line	11	22	33	25.4%

Offensive line
Terron Armstead	64	66	130	100%
Andrus Peat	INJ	60	60	46.2%
Max Unger	64	66	130	100%
Larry Warford	64	66	130	100%
Ryan Ramczyk	64	66	130	100%
Josh LeRibeus	64	6	70	53.8%
Jermon Bushrod	X	6	6	4.6%
Total	64	66	130	100%

Defensive line
Cameron Jordan	60	60	120	93.8%
Tyeler Davison	52	INJ	52	40.6%
Sheldon Rankins	42	50	92	71.9%
David Onyemata	38	42	80	62.5%
Alex Okafor	37	39	76	59.4%
Marcus Davenport	23	23	46	35.9%
Trey Hendrickson	14	INA	14	10.9%
Taylor Stallworth	INA	26	26	20.3%
Mitchell Loewen	INA	4	4	3.1%

Linebackers
Demario Davis	66	42	108	84.4%
Alex Anzalone	34	23	57	44.5%
Manti Te'o	27	35	62	48.4%
A.J. Klein	25	48	73	57.0%

Cornerbacks
Marshon Lattimore	65	61	126	98.4%
Ken Crawley	64	61	125	97.7%
Patrick Robinson	46	41	87	68.0%
P.J. Williams	INA	2	2	1.6%

Safeties
Marcus Williams	66	62	128	100%
Kurt Coleman	37	23	60	46.9%
Vonn Bell	30	40	70	54.7%
Totals	66	62	128	100%

Beastmode · 09-18-2018, 12:27 AM

Still felt Boston Scott should have been give a chance. He looked way better than Marcus Murphy and he got a shot. I didn't see anything he did wrong, even on ST. He did a good job.

saintfan · 09-18-2018, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Still felt Boston Scott should have been give a chance. He looked way better than Marcus Murphy and he got a shot. I didn't see anything he did wrong, even on ST. He did a good job.

#metoo

Rugby Saint II · 09-18-2018, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

#metoo

Sorry to tell you this but that is already taken.

#yeah,metoo

Edit: Back on topic. I immediately noticed his limp. He looked in pain later in the game. I believe that we can over use him and are doing just that. The very thing Payton said he would not do. Also, why keep pounding him between the tackles every time? I guess we never did find Payton needed chess piece like he had hoped would develop into something reliable at TC.

Where is Robertson? DA should have this **** figured out by now and players should be comfortable in the system at this point. Geez......

K Major · 09-18-2018, 08:01 AM

Tyeler Davison 52 INJ 52 pre injury, that's a lot of snaps in the rotation.

On the flip side -- > Craig Robertson 23 this should be a lot higher. Not sure what else you want this guy to do here in NO.

K Major · 09-18-2018, 10:10 AM

Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry.

Gillislee just seems slow & indecisive. You have to believe this guy is gone once Ingram returns.

If TLL isn't healthy, I hope they bring up Boston Scott. We need a spark in the run game. Jonathan & Gillislee hadn't impressed + Kamara is too valuable to pound exclusively for 4 quarters.

Crusader · 09-18-2018, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry.

Gillislee just seems slow & indecisive. You have to believe this guy is gone once Ingram returns.

Thats what happens with late additions.

Papa Voodoo · 09-18-2018, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry.

Gillislee just seems slow & indecisive. You have to believe this guy is gone once Ingram returns.

If TLL isn't healthy, I hope they bring up Boston Scott. We need a spark in the run game. Jonathan & Gillislee hadn't impressed + Kamara is too valuable to pound exclusively for 4 quarters.

Kamara and Scott would be very hard to handle. Our other RBs aren't doing diddly. It's liek last year when it took several games for them to give Kamara more of a role.

Cruize · 09-18-2018, 10:18 AM

I agree completely with the give Scott a shot crowd. He's quick, elusive and seems to have great vision and a feel for the game.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out Still felt Boston Scott should have been give a chance. He looked way better than Marcus Murphy and he got a shot. I didn't see anything he did wrong, even on ST. He did a good job. saintfan, Cruize, Papa Voodoo and 1 others like this.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out Originally Posted by Beastmode Still felt Boston Scott should have been give a chance. He looked way better than Marcus Murphy and he got a shot. I didn't see anything he did wrong, even on ST. He did a good job. #metoo Papa Voodoo, Rugby Saint II and Beastmode like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out Tyeler Davison 52 INJ 52 pre injury, that's a lot of snaps in the rotation. On the flip side -- > Craig Robertson 23 this should be a lot higher. Not sure what else you want this guy to do here in NO. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry. Gillislee just seems slow & indecisive. You have to believe this guy is gone once Ingram returns. If TLL isn't healthy, I hope they bring up Boston Scott. We need a spark in the run game. Jonathan & Gillislee hadn't impressed + Kamara is too valuable to pound exclusively for 4 quarters. Cruize, Papa Voodoo and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out Originally Posted by K Major Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry. Gillislee just seems slow & indecisive. You have to believe this guy is gone once Ingram returns. Thats what happens with late additions.

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out Originally Posted by K Major Veteran bruiser Mike Gillislee was on the field for nine plays — he carried the ball eight times in those nine plays — and Jonathan Williams lined up for six, although he only got one carry. Gillislee just seems slow & indecisive. You have to believe this guy is gone once Ingram returns. If TLL isn't healthy, I hope they bring up Boston Scott. We need a spark in the run game. Jonathan & Gillislee hadn't impressed + Kamara is too valuable to pound exclusively for 4 quarters. Kamara and Scott would be very hard to handle. Our other RBs aren't doing diddly. It's liek last year when it took several games for them to give Kamara more of a role. K Major likes this.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Snap Counts: Alvin Kamara getting most of the work at RB with Mark Ingram out I agree completely with the give Scott a shot crowd. He's quick, elusive and seems to have great vision and a feel for the game. K Major likes this.
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