Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons

Beastmode · 09-24-2018, 09:59 AM

I don't want to see CM fail. Just getting tired of the reports, even before the season that he was going to step in and that was that. He is a project. They all are projects. Nobody has emerged to fill that role. Last week Peyton said he needs to get Tre'Quan more work....it's a shaky situation, even if CM had no injury it would still be shaky. We are going into game 4 with no real horse in front. I would not at all be surprised if this continues the rest of the season.

It looks more situational dependent is the only thing I can make of it. Each are good at a specific things. Carr is shifty, Tre'Quan, one on one jump baller, CM, big GL target.

K Major · 09-24-2018, 10:50 AM

^^^ Gotcha.

rezburna · 09-24-2018, 11:04 AM

A player with 66 catches for 888 yards and 4 TDs is not a project. Carr and Smith may be projects, but the Saints signed Meredith with a specific role in mind and film proving his skill set.

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

A player with 66 catches for 888 yards and 4 TDs is not a project. Carr and Smith may be projects, but the Saints signed Meredith with a specific role in mind and film proving his skill set.

Exactly! I don't get this "project" and "garbage time player" rhetoric. Meredith has 78 career receptions, 1019 career yards and four career TD's.

Tre'Quan Smith and Austin Carr have FOUR career receptions, 63 career yards and ZERO career TD's ... COMBINED!

Beastmode · 09-24-2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

A player with 66 catches for 888 yards and 4 TDs is not a project. Carr and Smith may be projects, but the Saints signed Meredith with a specific role in mind and film proving his skill set.

On a 3 win team. Is CM better than Pryor? He had over 1,000 yards that season and look how that turned out. Another situation of a bad team with one WR that gets all the mop of targets they want. Hurns, same thing.

rezburna · 09-24-2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

On a 3 win team. Is CM better than Pryor? He had over 1,000 yards that season and look how that turned out. Another situation of a bad team with one WR that gets all the mop of targets they want. Hurns, same thing.

Pryor and Hurns never showed a propensity for route running, nor were they slot receivers. We can watch the film. Meredith runs good routes. Meredith has strong hands. Meredith has good speed for his size. Hurns would be a pretty good in our offense as well. And even in the instance of Pryor, I wouldn’t call him a project after a 1,000 yard season.

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

On a 3 win team. Is CM better than Pryor? He had over 1,000 yards that season and look how that turned out. Another situation of a bad team with one WR that gets all the mop of targets they want. Hurns, same thing.

Just keep repeating the same old lame logic over and over again. As long as you believe it ... which I doubt. I'll guarantee you that almost everyone else thinks it's crap. Meredith was brought in for one reason and one reason only, to take over the slot duties and he has already been a success in doing that.

Beastmode · 09-24-2018, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Just keep repeating the same old lame logic over and over again. As long as you believe it ... which I doubt. I'll guarantee you that almost everyone else thinks it's crap. Meredith was brought in for one reason and one reason only, to take over the slot duties and he has already been a success in doing that.

It will be clear in the next 3-4 weeks how things will shake out. Notice I did not revert to name calling or laughing at you. I also don't make bets hoping for other players to fail which you did. If you lose the bet I also will not laugh at you. It's petty and just not what I do. I look at the facts and accept them. 3 games in and Carr, Smith and CM each have one single catch. If you want to call CM the winner and superior talent then go right ahead. I don't know who will win the job right now. That is exactly what I said at the beginning of the season and is exactly what happened. He is also not the WR2. That would be Ginn. It's actually Kamara but technically it is Ginn.

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

It will be clear in the next 3-4 weeks how things will shake out. Notice I did not revert to name calling or laughing at you. I also don't make bets hoping for other players to fail which you did. If you lose the bet I also will not laugh at you. It's petty and just not what I do. I look at the facts and accept them. 3 games in and Carr, Smith and CM each have one single catch. If you want to call CM the winner and superior talent then go right ahead. I don't know who will win the job right now. That is exactly what I said at the beginning of the season and is exactly what happened. He is also not the WR2. That would be Ginn. It's actually Kamara but technically it is Ginn.

I don't know where you got it in your mind that I have ever hoped for Smith or Carr to do bad. Hell, I hope they score a TD every time they happen to see the field. That has nothing to do with the bet that The Dude and I have. I had been touting Meredith LONG before that bet (which is really none of your business) was even considered. I have no need, or desire, to pull against ether player. Once again, faulty thinking on your part. Meredith was signed as a free agent to be the starting slot receiver and that's exactly what he was in his first game.

Yes, three games in, but only one game for Meredith and that catch produced a crucial TD. I have little doubt we'll be seeing more of the same for the remainder of the season.

gumbeau · 09-24-2018, 11:27 AM

I think Beastmode just can't admit to being wrong. Its a very common thing.

People on NFL boards get wrapped up in all the off season garbage and imagine themselves to be competent GM's. The emotional investment in their imaginary expertise spills over into this sort of rancor during the regular season when the ACTUAL team management does something that doesn't jive with the imaginary brilliance on the boards.

Tiring to say the least but it isn't going to stop anytime soon.

09-24-2018, 09:59 AM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons I don't want to see CM fail. Just getting tired of the reports, even before the season that he was going to step in and that was that. He is a project. They all are projects. Nobody has emerged to fill that role. Last week Peyton said he needs to get Tre'Quan more work....it's a shaky situation, even if CM had no injury it would still be shaky. We are going into game 4 with no real horse in front. I would not at all be surprised if this continues the rest of the season. It looks more situational dependent is the only thing I can make of it. Each are good at a specific things. Carr is shifty, Tre'Quan, one on one jump baller, CM, big GL target.
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09-24-2018, 10:50 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons ^^^ Gotcha.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons A player with 66 catches for 888 yards and 4 TDs is not a project. Carr and Smith may be projects, but the Saints signed Meredith with a specific role in mind and film proving his skill set. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by rezburna A player with 66 catches for 888 yards and 4 TDs is not a project. Carr and Smith may be projects, but the Saints signed Meredith with a specific role in mind and film proving his skill set. Exactly! I don't get this "project" and "garbage time player" rhetoric. Meredith has 78 career receptions, 1019 career yards and four career TD's. Tre'Quan Smith and Austin Carr have FOUR career receptions, 63 career yards and ZERO career TD's ... COMBINED!

09-24-2018, 11:37 AM	#5
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by rezburna A player with 66 catches for 888 yards and 4 TDs is not a project. Carr and Smith may be projects, but the Saints signed Meredith with a specific role in mind and film proving his skill set. On a 3 win team. Is CM better than Pryor? He had over 1,000 yards that season and look how that turned out. Another situation of a bad team with one WR that gets all the mop of targets they want. Hurns, same thing.
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09-24-2018, 12:08 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode On a 3 win team. Is CM better than Pryor? He had over 1,000 yards that season and look how that turned out. Another situation of a bad team with one WR that gets all the mop of targets they want. Hurns, same thing. Pryor and Hurns never showed a propensity for route running, nor were they slot receivers. We can watch the film. Meredith runs good routes. Meredith has strong hands. Meredith has good speed for his size. Hurns would be a pretty good in our offense as well. And even in the instance of Pryor, I wouldn’t call him a project after a 1,000 yard season.

09-24-2018, 01:10 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode On a 3 win team. Is CM better than Pryor? He had over 1,000 yards that season and look how that turned out. Another situation of a bad team with one WR that gets all the mop of targets they want. Hurns, same thing. Just keep repeating the same old lame logic over and over again. As long as you believe it ... which I doubt. I'll guarantee you that almost everyone else thinks it's crap. Meredith was brought in for one reason and one reason only, to take over the slot duties and he has already been a success in doing that.

09-24-2018, 02:13 PM	#8
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Just keep repeating the same old lame logic over and over again. As long as you believe it ... which I doubt. I'll guarantee you that almost everyone else thinks it's crap. Meredith was brought in for one reason and one reason only, to take over the slot duties and he has already been a success in doing that. It will be clear in the next 3-4 weeks how things will shake out. Notice I did not revert to name calling or laughing at you. I also don't make bets hoping for other players to fail which you did. If you lose the bet I also will not laugh at you. It's petty and just not what I do. I look at the facts and accept them. 3 games in and Carr, Smith and CM each have one single catch. If you want to call CM the winner and superior talent then go right ahead. I don't know who will win the job right now. That is exactly what I said at the beginning of the season and is exactly what happened. He is also not the WR2. That would be Ginn. It's actually Kamara but technically it is Ginn.
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09-24-2018, 02:49 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode It will be clear in the next 3-4 weeks how things will shake out. Notice I did not revert to name calling or laughing at you. I also don't make bets hoping for other players to fail which you did. If you lose the bet I also will not laugh at you. It's petty and just not what I do. I look at the facts and accept them. 3 games in and Carr, Smith and CM each have one single catch. If you want to call CM the winner and superior talent then go right ahead. I don't know who will win the job right now. That is exactly what I said at the beginning of the season and is exactly what happened. He is also not the WR2. That would be Ginn. It's actually Kamara but technically it is Ginn. I don't know where you got it in your mind that I have ever hoped for Smith or Carr to do bad. Hell, I hope they score a TD every time they happen to see the field. That has nothing to do with the bet that The Dude and I have. I had been touting Meredith LONG before that bet (which is really none of your business) was even considered. I have no need, or desire, to pull against ether player. Once again, faulty thinking on your part. Meredith was signed as a free agent to be the starting slot receiver and that's exactly what he was in his first game. Yes, three games in, but only one game for Meredith and that catch produced a crucial TD. I have little doubt we'll be seeing more of the same for the remainder of the season.
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09-24-2018, 11:27 AM	#10
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons I think Beastmode just can't admit to being wrong. Its a very common thing. People on NFL boards get wrapped up in all the off season garbage and imagine themselves to be competent GM's. The emotional investment in their imaginary expertise spills over into this sort of rancor during the regular season when the ACTUAL team management does something that doesn't jive with the imaginary brilliance on the boards. Tiring to say the least but it isn't going to stop anytime soon. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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