Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start

09-25-2018, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

For once we
Have the talent to outplay opponents as opposed to out scheming them. They need to do it.

By all appearances we are out scheming ourselves.

Barry from MS · 09-25-2018, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

For once we
Have the talent to outplay opponents as opposed to out scheming them. They need to do it.

Yes. Just lineup & say "This is the coverage, beat it." Until they can, stay with it. When they start doing it, adjust.

spkb25 · 09-25-2018, 08:31 AM

Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man

saintfan · 09-25-2018, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man

This was very clear against Atlanta if not the two weeks prior. Our guys don't understand their responsibilities. Of course just getting beat isn't helping either.

SmashMouth · 09-25-2018, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man

I just wonder where have we seen this BEFORE?

jeanpierre · 09-29-2018, 06:22 PM

It's not technique, it's scheme...

Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan being our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz...

Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme...

And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary...

AsylumGuido · 09-29-2018, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It's not technique, it's scheme...

Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz...

Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme...

And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary...

I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently.

jeanpierre · 09-30-2018, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently.

Keeping S Natrell Jamerson might have helped, too...

TheOak · 09-30-2018, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Both are third stringers on their respective teams...

So we should see a marked improvement?

RailBoss · 09-30-2018, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I really don’t understand this. We were great last year and have arguably more talent this year givin the addition of Coleman, Robinson, and experience under the rookies belt. It’s not like we were dominant pass rushers last year either.
Is Sterling Moore still out there?
I missed most of the Atlanta game. I know PJ got smoked. Who was the problem after that

So you have Aaron Glenn DB's Coach 3rd season (probably not the problem)

Next up you have Dennis Allen DC and Mike Nolan LB's Coach.
Old School vs. new school
(could be the problem)

09-25-2018, 08:17 AM	#11
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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by The Dude For once we Have the talent to outplay opponents as opposed to out scheming them. They need to do it. Yes. Just lineup & say "This is the coverage, beat it." Until they can, stay with it. When they start doing it, adjust.

09-25-2018, 08:31 AM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man saintfan, Barry from MS and Rugby Saint II like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by spkb25 Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man This was very clear against Atlanta if not the two weeks prior. Our guys don't understand their responsibilities. Of course just getting beat isn't helping either. Barry from MS likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by spkb25 Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man I just wonder where have we seen this BEFORE? K Major likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start It's not technique, it's scheme... Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan being our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz... Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme... And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary... Barry from MS, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by jeanpierre It's not technique, it's scheme... Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz... Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme... And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary... I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently. jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently. Keeping S Natrell Jamerson might have helped, too...

09-30-2018, 07:28 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by SmashMouth Both are third stringers on their respective teams... So we should see a marked improvement? Barry from MS likes this.

09-30-2018, 01:47 PM	#20
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by The Dude I really don’t understand this. We were great last year and have arguably more talent this year givin the addition of Coleman, Robinson, and experience under the rookies belt. It’s not like we were dominant pass rushers last year either. Is Sterling Moore still out there? I missed most of the Atlanta game. I know PJ got smoked. Who was the problem after that So you have Aaron Glenn DB's Coach 3rd season (probably not the problem) Next up you have Dennis Allen DC and Mike Nolan LB's Coach. Old School vs. new school (could be the problem)

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