Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start

Barry from MS · 09-24-2018, 07:00 PM

Can we trade a 5th or 6th for Natrell Jamerson or Kamrin Moore?

SmashMouth · 09-25-2018, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Can we trade a 5th or 6th for Natrell Jamerson or Kamrin Moore?

Both are third stringers on their respective teams...

TheOak · 09-30-2018, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Both are third stringers on their respective teams...

So we should see a marked improvement?

K Major · 09-24-2018, 07:52 PM

Why are they asking Sean Payton anything about the defense?

We can't defend the deep pass. We aren't creating any forced fumbles. We can't get off the field on 3rd down. We are giving up HUGE plays in the secondary. Guys are LOST on the back end. Every QB we've faced so far has put up career numbers either in the passing game or damn near top tier QBR ratings.

If Dennis Allen can't correct this, promote Mike Nolan to DC.

spkb25 · 09-25-2018, 07:31 AM

Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man

saintfan · 09-25-2018, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man

This was very clear against Atlanta if not the two weeks prior. Our guys don't understand their responsibilities. Of course just getting beat isn't helping either.

SmashMouth · 09-25-2018, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man

I just wonder where have we seen this BEFORE?

jeanpierre · 09-29-2018, 05:22 PM

It's not technique, it's scheme...

Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan being our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz...

Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme...

And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary...

AsylumGuido · 09-29-2018, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It's not technique, it's scheme...

Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz...

Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme...

And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary...

I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently.

jeanpierre · 09-30-2018, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently.

Keeping S Natrell Jamerson might have helped, too...

09-24-2018, 07:00 PM	#1
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Can we trade a 5th or 6th for Natrell Jamerson or Kamrin Moore? SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-25-2018, 07:13 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by Barry from MS Can we trade a 5th or 6th for Natrell Jamerson or Kamrin Moore? Both are third stringers on their respective teams...

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by SmashMouth Both are third stringers on their respective teams... So we should see a marked improvement? Barry from MS likes this.

09-24-2018, 07:52 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Why are they asking Sean Payton anything about the defense? We can't defend the deep pass. We aren't creating any forced fumbles. We can't get off the field on 3rd down. We are giving up HUGE plays in the secondary. Guys are LOST on the back end. Every QB we've faced so far has put up career numbers either in the passing game or damn near top tier QBR ratings. If Dennis Allen can't correct this, promote Mike Nolan to DC. jnormand likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man saintfan, Barry from MS and Rugby Saint II like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by spkb25 Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man This was very clear against Atlanta if not the two weeks prior. Our guys don't understand their responsibilities. Of course just getting beat isn't helping either. Barry from MS likes this.

09-25-2018, 09:16 AM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by spkb25 Some of our problems are people don't appear to know their assignments. No one understands their role in certain packages....that's what I've seen. Plus getting burned and owned on man I just wonder where have we seen this BEFORE? K Major likes this.

09-29-2018, 05:22 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start It's not technique, it's scheme... Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan being our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz... Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme... And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary... Barry from MS, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by jeanpierre It's not technique, it's scheme... Example, in the first three games, despite Cam Jordan our only effective pass rusher, we had him drop back into coverage and re-designated an OLB to blitz... Why?!? That's not technique, that's poor scheme... And we keep running it like Payton continues to run the naked double reverse like it will somehow start working despite results to the contrary... I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently. jeanpierre likes this.

09-30-2018, 03:03 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints searching for answers in secondary after rough start Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I agree. There's nothing wrong with our roster. At all. It just needs to be administered more efficiently. Keeping S Natrell Jamerson might have helped, too...

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