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The Dude · 09-25-2018, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

That's on Dennis Allen to correct. No one can tell me that David O, Rankins, Demario D, Klein etc are bad players.

Simplify the scheme.

This. Don’t know if it’s Allen or if Payton is fiddling with things because he has a vision of how he wants his defense to look when we don’t have the players to look that way. Is he letting them play to their strenths or is he asking them to do things that they really don’t need to be doing in order to succeed.
Have they changed things from last year?
I don’t know much about the intricacies of the game but I do know in the past they have had to rely more on scheming and tricking the defense because we didn’t have a whole lot of talent. We do have talent now but it seems like they are still shuffling players around a lot and ****. Is it really necessary or is it counterproductive?

blackangold · 09-25-2018, 01:55 PM

Fitz won’t play well all season... he always starts hot on new teams, did this with the Bills and Jets before playing like garbage.

Also, fitz got beat up this last game. I don’t think he can take that punishment for a season the guy looks much older than he is. Something tells me that by week 7 the Bucs will be considering Winston again.

blackangold · 09-25-2018, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

That's on Dennis Allen to correct. No one can tell me that David O, Rankins, Demario D, Klein etc are bad players.

Simplify the scheme.

Blitz more, play cover 2 with the safeties to help with our lack of a CB, and FFS please never just rush 3... that’s got to stop.

K Major · 09-25-2018, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Blitz more, play cover 2 with the safeties to help with our lack of a CB, and FFS please never just rush 3... that’s got to stop.

Agreed 100%.

Supertek · 09-25-2018, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

This. Don’t know if it’s Allen or if Payton is fiddling with things because he has a vision of how he wants his defense to look when we don’t have the players to look that way. Is he letting them play to their strenths or is he asking them to do things that they really don’t need to be doing in order to succeed.
Have they changed things from last year?
I don’t know much about the intricacies of the game but I do know in the past they have had to rely more on scheming and tricking the defense because we didn’t have a whole lot of talent. We do have talent now but it seems like they are still shuffling players around a lot and ****. Is it really necessary or is it counterproductive?

What's the difference we have struggled since Allen came here. It's not that had to figure out. We do have to make some moves personnel wise and one of them should be Allen

vpheughan · 09-25-2018, 03:03 PM

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RailBoss · 09-25-2018, 03:17 PM

Fitzy is a decent journeyman QB he managed to torch us, or better put we torched ourselves. The one thing that I noticed is the Bucs fans have totally embraced him. Not sure the Tampa faithful have trust in Winston after the finger licking good saga.

Jameis Winston Licks Fingers in Bizzarre Pregame Speech - YouTube

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-25-2018, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Gotta say, I feel pretty fortunate to be tied in the division for first.

Just to be technical is isn't a tie. In the 3-way "tie" with Saints, Bucs, and Kitties, the Kitties lose out at the division record level (0-1 compared to Bucs 1-0 and Saints 1-1). Saints are behind Bucs due to head to head in two way "tie". So standings are Bucs, Saints, Kitties, FailClowns at the moment.

Not that it matters at the moment. I'm just glad we have an opportunity for a winning first quarter of the season. We haven't seen that in literally 5 years.

SFIAH

foreverfan · 09-25-2018, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Gotta say, I feel pretty fortunate to be tied in the division for first. We haven't played well at all on defense, but here we are. Tampa has the Bears next and the Clowns have the Bengals. Either or both could lose.

We need to handle our business against NY this Sunday.

If we handle our business every Sunday/Game Day, we will end up 18-1.

Who Dat?

The Dude · 09-25-2018, 03:52 PM

You guys do realize we’ve had a better start this season than we have in the past 5, that’s FIVE seasons right? Including last year. At this point in the season last year we thought we sucked too.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Tied Originally Posted by K Major That's on Dennis Allen to correct. No one can tell me that David O, Rankins, Demario D, Klein etc are bad players. Simplify the scheme. This. Don’t know if it’s Allen or if Payton is fiddling with things because he has a vision of how he wants his defense to look when we don’t have the players to look that way. Is he letting them play to their strenths or is he asking them to do things that they really don’t need to be doing in order to succeed. Have they changed things from last year? I don’t know much about the intricacies of the game but I do know in the past they have had to rely more on scheming and tricking the defense because we didn’t have a whole lot of talent. We do have talent now but it seems like they are still shuffling players around a lot and ****. Is it really necessary or is it counterproductive? K Major likes this.
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09-25-2018, 01:55 PM	#12
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Tied Fitz won’t play well all season... he always starts hot on new teams, did this with the Bills and Jets before playing like garbage. Also, fitz got beat up this last game. I don’t think he can take that punishment for a season the guy looks much older than he is. Something tells me that by week 7 the Bucs will be considering Winston again.

09-25-2018, 01:57 PM	#13
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Tied Originally Posted by K Major That's on Dennis Allen to correct. No one can tell me that David O, Rankins, Demario D, Klein etc are bad players. Simplify the scheme. Blitz more, play cover 2 with the safeties to help with our lack of a CB, and FFS please never just rush 3... that’s got to stop. SaintFanInATLHELL and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tied Originally Posted by blackangold Blitz more, play cover 2 with the safeties to help with our lack of a CB, and FFS please never just rush 3... that’s got to stop. Agreed 100%.

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Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Tied Originally Posted by The Dude This. Don’t know if it’s Allen or if Payton is fiddling with things because he has a vision of how he wants his defense to look when we don’t have the players to look that way. Is he letting them play to their strenths or is he asking them to do things that they really don’t need to be doing in order to succeed. Have they changed things from last year? I don’t know much about the intricacies of the game but I do know in the past they have had to rely more on scheming and tricking the defense because we didn’t have a whole lot of talent. We do have talent now but it seems like they are still shuffling players around a lot and ****. Is it really necessary or is it counterproductive? What's the difference we have struggled since Allen came here. It's not that had to figure out. We do have to make some moves personnel wise and one of them should be Allen

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,774	Re: Tied Originally Posted by saintfan Gotta say, I feel pretty fortunate to be tied in the division for first. Just to be technical is isn't a tie. In the 3-way "tie" with Saints, Bucs, and Kitties, the Kitties lose out at the division record level (0-1 compared to Bucs 1-0 and Saints 1-1). Saints are behind Bucs due to head to head in two way "tie". So standings are Bucs, Saints, Kitties, FailClowns at the moment. Not that it matters at the moment. I'm just glad we have an opportunity for a winning first quarter of the season. We haven't seen that in literally 5 years. SFIAH

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Tied Originally Posted by saintfan Gotta say, I feel pretty fortunate to be tied in the division for first. We haven't played well at all on defense, but here we are. Tampa has the Bears next and the Clowns have the Bengals. Either or both could lose. We need to handle our business against NY this Sunday. If we handle our business every Sunday/Game Day, we will end up 18-1. Who Dat?

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