Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints

10-03-2018, 09:13 AM

We are about to find out how much Ingram means to the team.

Especially the "trade Ingram" crowd.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-03-2018, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

We are about to find out how much Ingram means to the team.

Especially the "trade Ingram" crowd.

I'm not in the trade Ingram crowd. However, I can see the point from a reality standpoint. Ingram deserves to get paid. I don't think the Saints can afford him. Letting him go as free agent gets back minimal compensation. A trade could get more. All makes sense to me.

SFIAH

K Major · 10-03-2018, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I'm not in the trade Ingram crowd. However, I can see the point from a reality standpoint. Ingram deserves to get paid. I don't think the Saints can afford him. Letting him go as free agent gets back minimal compensation. A trade could get more. All makes sense to me.

SFIAH

SFIAH - my post wasn't directed at you but more so at some of the posters wanting him gone this season (due to suspension).

I'm speaking specifically of MI this season. Based on the handful of games thus far, some of our woes on D is due to the lack of ball control (i.e. Ingram). He brings balance & the ability to control the ball & clock we have been lacking the last 4 weeks.

We are in win now mode. Mark helps us big time in 2018. This team will be stronger starting on Monday night now that he's back.

However next year's debate with Mark returning in Black and Gold ... totally different conversation.

Cruize · 10-03-2018, 10:36 AM

Could be the difference maker this week.

billyt81 · 10-04-2018, 02:05 PM

I can't wait to see Mark Ingram pacing up and down the sideline lookin all fired up and resembling the Incredible Hulk after breakin three tackles on the way to a 20yd run up the middle. Hes the Draymond Green of the Saints. Not our best player but our emotional leader, our dirty work guy. I of course believe Ingram is the last piece of the puzzle for a championship team. Don't all real Who Dats agree?

Beastmode · 10-04-2018, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

SFIAH - my post wasn't directed at you but more so at some of the posters wanting him gone this season (due to suspension).

I'm speaking specifically of MI this season. Based on the handful of games thus far, some of our woes on D is due to the lack of ball control (i.e. Ingram). He brings balance & the ability to control the ball & clock we have been lacking the last 4 weeks.

We are in win now mode. Mark helps us big time in 2018. This team will be stronger starting on Monday night now that he's back.

However next year's debate with Mark returning in Black and Gold ... totally different conversation.

It had nothing to do with wanting him gone. He will be gone next year. It was about getting max value if someone else emerged. If Boston Scott was blowing up the building then what? That did not happen.

Why do people get so emotional about players I do not know. Where have we made the most money recently? THE DRAFT! That is our strength. Go with that and get the picks that we gave up.

And I KNOW we will not get a 1st. What it would give us is something to bundle to get back into the 1st RND.

AsylumGuido · 10-04-2018, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

SFIAH - my post wasn't directed at you but more so at some of the posters wanting him gone this season (due to suspension).

I'm speaking specifically of MI this season. Based on the handful of games thus far, some of our woes on D is due to the lack of ball control (i.e. Ingram). He brings balance & the ability to control the ball & clock we have been lacking the last 4 weeks.

We are in win now mode. Mark helps us big time in 2018. This team will be stronger starting on Monday night now that he's back.

However next year's debate with Mark returning in Black and Gold ... totally different conversation.

Exactly!

Does Ingram contributing to our offense and locker room give the Saints a better shot at winning our second Lombardi THIS YEAR? If the answer is yes (and it absolutely is!) then trading him prior to that Super Bowl would be downright stupid. Right now, this year is our best chance to win another championship. We may be devastated by injuries or retiring players next year or the following year.

Making the team weaker this season for some hope and dream next season is foolish, at the best, idiotic at the worst. Totally illogical.

K Major · 10-04-2018, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

It had nothing to do with wanting him gone. He will be gone next year. It was about getting max value if someone else emerged. If Boston Scott was blowing up the building then what? That did not happen.

Why do people get so emotional about players I do not know. Where have we made the most money recently? THE DRAFT! That is our strength. Go with that and get the picks that we gave up.

And I KNOW we will not get a 1st. What it would give us is something to bundle to get back into the 1st RND.

The failure rate of draft picks is way too high to risk trading a star player for a "high draft pick".

Why is this so hard to understand?

AsylumGuido · 10-04-2018, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The failure rate of draft picks is way too high to risk trading a star player for a "high draft pick".

Why is this so hard to understand?

Especially a star player (perhaps our most versatile player) that can help us win a championship THIS year.

It's the old "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" logic. It shouldn't be hard to understand.

Beastmode · 10-04-2018, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The failure rate of draft picks is way too high to risk trading a star player for a "high draft pick".

Why is this so hard to understand?

Last year, if AP would have been suspended for 4 games and Kamara blows, up, would you even consider trading AP if someone offered something stupid because they are desperate?

The draft is a crap shoot but it has not been for us the last two years. We have done quite well. It's not a crap shoot if you have good staff who can evaluate talent and needs. It is why we are in the position we are in right now. This is not the Jets, Browns staff here.

I said this before the season even started. It's silly to bash people over current state. Nobody knew all our RB's outside of Kamara were not going to show up. What did happen, there is a shortage of RB's right now. On that front I was correct. We don't even know if other teams made any offers either which I am sure they did.

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10-03-2018, 10:25 AM	#12
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by K Major We are about to find out how much Ingram means to the team. Especially the "trade Ingram" crowd. I'm not in the trade Ingram crowd. However, I can see the point from a reality standpoint. Ingram deserves to get paid. I don't think the Saints can afford him. Letting him go as free agent gets back minimal compensation. A trade could get more. All makes sense to me. SFIAH K Major likes this.

10-03-2018, 10:35 AM	#13
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I'm not in the trade Ingram crowd. However, I can see the point from a reality standpoint. Ingram deserves to get paid. I don't think the Saints can afford him. Letting him go as free agent gets back minimal compensation. A trade could get more. All makes sense to me. SFIAH SFIAH - my post wasn't directed at you but more so at some of the posters wanting him gone this season (due to suspension). I'm speaking specifically of MI this season. Based on the handful of games thus far, some of our woes on D is due to the lack of ball control (i.e. Ingram). He brings balance & the ability to control the ball & clock we have been lacking the last 4 weeks. We are in win now mode. Mark helps us big time in 2018. This team will be stronger starting on Monday night now that he's back. However next year's debate with Mark returning in Black and Gold ... totally different conversation. SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido, darksoul35 and 1 others like this.
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10-04-2018, 03:15 PM	#16
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by K Major SFIAH - my post wasn't directed at you but more so at some of the posters wanting him gone this season (due to suspension). I'm speaking specifically of MI this season. Based on the handful of games thus far, some of our woes on D is due to the lack of ball control (i.e. Ingram). He brings balance & the ability to control the ball & clock we have been lacking the last 4 weeks. We are in win now mode. Mark helps us big time in 2018. This team will be stronger starting on Monday night now that he's back. However next year's debate with Mark returning in Black and Gold ... totally different conversation. It had nothing to do with wanting him gone. He will be gone next year. It was about getting max value if someone else emerged. If Boston Scott was blowing up the building then what? That did not happen. Why do people get so emotional about players I do not know. Where have we made the most money recently? THE DRAFT! That is our strength. Go with that and get the picks that we gave up. And I KNOW we will not get a 1st. What it would give us is something to bundle to get back into the 1st RND.
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10-04-2018, 03:35 PM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by K Major SFIAH - my post wasn't directed at you but more so at some of the posters wanting him gone this season (due to suspension). I'm speaking specifically of MI this season. Based on the handful of games thus far, some of our woes on D is due to the lack of ball control (i.e. Ingram). He brings balance & the ability to control the ball & clock we have been lacking the last 4 weeks. We are in win now mode. Mark helps us big time in 2018. This team will be stronger starting on Monday night now that he's back. However next year's debate with Mark returning in Black and Gold ... totally different conversation. Exactly! Does Ingram contributing to our offense and locker room give the Saints a better shot at winning our second Lombardi THIS YEAR? If the answer is yes (and it absolutely is!) then trading him prior to that Super Bowl would be downright stupid. Right now, this year is our best chance to win another championship. We may be devastated by injuries or retiring players next year or the following year. Making the team weaker this season for some hope and dream next season is foolish, at the best, idiotic at the worst. Totally illogical.

10-04-2018, 03:39 PM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by Beastmode It had nothing to do with wanting him gone. He will be gone next year. It was about getting max value if someone else emerged. If Boston Scott was blowing up the building then what? That did not happen. Why do people get so emotional about players I do not know. Where have we made the most money recently? THE DRAFT! That is our strength. Go with that and get the picks that we gave up. And I KNOW we will not get a 1st. What it would give us is something to bundle to get back into the 1st RND. The failure rate of draft picks is way too high to risk trading a star player for a "high draft pick". Why is this so hard to understand? AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by K Major The failure rate of draft picks is way too high to risk trading a star player for a "high draft pick". Why is this so hard to understand? Especially a star player (perhaps our most versatile player) that can help us win a championship THIS year. It's the old "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" logic. It shouldn't be hard to understand. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram is back and 'ready to work' with the Saints Originally Posted by K Major The failure rate of draft picks is way too high to risk trading a star player for a "high draft pick". Why is this so hard to understand? Last year, if AP would have been suspended for 4 games and Kamara blows, up, would you even consider trading AP if someone offered something stupid because they are desperate? The draft is a crap shoot but it has not been for us the last two years. We have done quite well. It's not a crap shoot if you have good staff who can evaluate talent and needs. It is why we are in the position we are in right now. This is not the Jets, Browns staff here. I said this before the season even started. It's silly to bash people over current state. Nobody knew all our RB's outside of Kamara were not going to show up. What did happen, there is a shortage of RB's right now. On that front I was correct. We don't even know if other teams made any offers either which I am sure they did.
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