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Lord_Saint83 10-21-2018 06:42 PM
Re: Saints at Ravens Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 819224)
But we won and are going ALL the way!!!
I agree, wins like these are the wins that you get when its your year

Cruize 10-21-2018 06:43 PM
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I was just glad they didn't bring in Jackson and go for two! :)

ChrisXVI 10-21-2018 06:58 PM
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Vonn Bell is terrible at cover 2. He always has been. That was the reason we signed Kurt Coleman. So why do we call a cover 2 on the play where the Ravens scored at the end?! I mean, I guess at a certain point you have to make the play call that you feel is right regardless of personnel.

ChrisXVI 10-21-2018 07:04 PM
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And how about a little love for Cameron Tom. It wasn’t always pretty, but he wasn’t a total liability.

Rueben Mayes 10-21-2018 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819235)
And how about a little love for Cameron Tom. It wasn’t always pretty, but he wasn’t a total liability.
Thanks Cameron Tom!!!

blackangold 10-21-2018 07:12 PM
Re: Saints at Ravens Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819231)
Vonn Bell is terrible at cover 2. He always has been. That was the reason we signed Kurt Coleman. So why do we call a cover 2 on the play where the Ravens scored at the end?! I mean, I guess at a certain point you have to make the play call that you feel is right regardless of personnel.
That looked like Lattimore should have carried him further up field instead of playing the shallow flat so close to the LOS. Bell should have gotten over but Lat needs some blame there...

Allen needs to stop calling zone defense. The only thing we do well is play cover 2 man... Stick with that. We get into these 2min defenses and all I see is zone across the board.

WhoDat!656 10-21-2018 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 819226)
I was just glad they didn't bring in Jackson and go for two! :)
I was having flashbacks of Daunte Culpepper doing that to beat us years ago.

Rueben Mayes 10-21-2018 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 819034)
No Rain in the weather forecast.

https://weather.com/weather/radar/in...US?layer=radar

50 degrees and sunny game time.

Perfect football weather.
got a great weather site for ya as it relates to NFL weather...

NFLWeather.com

Sorry if you were already aware of it. Just wanted to pass it along. I realize that for at least 8 games a year it is not a concern for Who Dat Nation!

spkb25 10-21-2018 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 819213)
We almost gave this one away. If this had gone to OT, I think Brees wins it anyway. He was special today against a above average D.

Dennis Allen still hadn't figured it out.

If I'm in the front office, I'm dialing up something for Patrick. We need a #2 CB badly. Badly.
Exactly. I don't think Allen is the issue. I actually think he is pretty good. Has some flaws, like late drives, but he has done alright in my opinion. We do need a Number 2, no truer words

ChrisXVI 10-21-2018 07:48 PM
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By the way, Vikings CB Xavier Rhodes sprained his ankle today... Just a little note looking ahead to next week.

SmashMouth 10-21-2018 07:51 PM
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TE Dan Arnold is coming around.

jeanpierre 10-21-2018 07:54 PM
Re: Saints at Ravens Game Day Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819231)
Vonn Bell is terrible at cover 2. He always has been. That was the reason we signed Kurt Coleman. So why do we call a cover 2 on the play where the Ravens scored at the end?! I mean, I guess at a certain point you have to make the play call that you feel is right regardless of personnel.
Exactly, bring in Kurt Coleman for Cover-2 because, you know, he can cover and you play him in the box...

Then you expect Vonn Bell to exchange and pick up Lattimore's receiver as Lattimore takes the flat, as he should, WTF did you expect DA?!?

Payton had better get an opposite CB and these Safety assignments fixed this week or we're going back to Minnesota in the playoffs!!!

jeanpierre 10-21-2018 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 819244)
TE Dan Arnold is coming around.
Yep. He's still got to learn to use that big body to box-out and force defenders to come around - that's on Dan Campbell and Ben Watson to coach that up...

But he could be a difference play-maker in the stretch if he can get those skills going...

jeanpierre 10-21-2018 08:06 PM
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Game Balls Geaux To:

Drew Brees - not only did he bust over the 500 Career PaTD landmark, but also in elite of elite company in beating every NFL team in his career...

Alex Okafor - Man, did Oak ever bring the pressure today consistently from his side today, including either blocking or altering pass arcs by Shane Falco...

Taysom Hill - Okay, just think where we'd be if we'd cut him after that terrible pre-season game after many had suggested; now this is Good Payton at his best, bringing a QB along to game speed...

Honorable Mention - it was good to see some aggressiveness, feistiness from Mr. Marcus today, even if one play cost us a goal-line INT...

Honorable Mention - if not having Peat didn't have me worried, losing LeRibeus made me sick, but Cameron Tom did an admirable job against some notable d-linemen...

Honorable Mention - DeMario Davis is still making some mental mistakes, but, man, did he makes some big plays when needed, clean it up DeMario!

Honorable Mention - To New Orleans Own Chris Meyers who put the timely Kibosh-jinx on Ravens kicker Justin Tucker to tie the game with a PAT - Never Forget Where You Came From Chris!!!

spkb25 10-21-2018 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 819244)
TE Dan Arnold is coming around.
he's going to be good

hitta 10-21-2018 08:15 PM
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I think 95% of the problems on our defense have to do with the 2nd CB. A think a lot of what looks like bad scheming/safety assignments is caused by us overcompensating due to not having that 2nd corner. I hate to say it, but Crawley looks bad. I've never been sold on him. Even last year when people were cheering his play, I've just never liked what he's brought to the table. Last year, we got by with him.. but this year teams have figured out how to exploit him. We need to either go out and get someone, or give Justin Hardee(who is very raw, but I just think he passes the eye test) a try.

hitta 10-21-2018 08:23 PM
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That play that Brees did against the rush was incredible. He found someone at literally the last moment.

K Major 10-21-2018 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 819248)
Game Balls Geaux To:
Sean Payton was gutsy as hell today. He played to win and not to lose ... against a top tier defense.

K Major 10-21-2018 08:49 PM
Re: Saints at Ravens Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 819237)
That looked like Lattimore should have carried him further up field instead of playing the shallow flat so close to the LOS. Bell should have gotten over but Lat needs some blame there...

Allen needs to stop calling zone defense. The only thing we do well is play cover 2 man... Stick with that. We get into these 2min defenses and all I see is zone across the board.
I think Allen needs some help ... a defensive consultant. I know Nolan is focusing on the linebacker crew but Dennis could use the input. That last scoring drive by Flacco was far too easy. There is still a lot of confusion and TDs (high school wide open) given up on the back end each week.

Utah_Saint 10-21-2018 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 819263)
I think Allen needs some help ... a defensive consultant. I know Nolan is focusing on the linebacker crew but Dennis could use the input. That last scoring drive by Flacco was far too easy. There is still a lot of confusion and TDs (high school wide open) given up on the back end each week.
Maybe Rezburna is available.

jeanpierre 10-21-2018 09:38 PM
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K Major 10-21-2018 09:53 PM
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Saw a tweet from Underhill stating that we rushed 3 men on D and gave up 2 TD's. That type of defensive philosophy will eventually get you beat.

On the flip side, I thought the linebacker group played possibly their best football today. I'm not sure if the Ravens didn't trust their own running game or they had a lot of respect for our run D. Saints run D continues to impress.

dizzle88 10-22-2018 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 819273)
Saw a tweet from Underhill stating that we rushed 3 men on D and gave up 2 TD's. That type of defensive philosophy will eventually get you beat.

On the flip side, I thought the linebacker group played possibly their best football today. I'm not sure if the Ravens didn't trust their own running game or they had a lot of respect for our run D. Saints run D continues to impress.
Let's be honest, besides Lattimore our secondary is a complete mess.

PJ loses his head in game situations

Crawley can't cover fast receivers and can't read down/distance and blitz package

Vonn Bell is a liability all around

Marcus Williams is having a rather forgettable Sophomore season

Kurt Coleman - ugh....

That being said, we find ways to win. If the secondary could actually play together we'd be unstoppable.

spkb25 10-22-2018 05:39 AM
Re: Saints at Ravens Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 819288)
Let's be honest, besides Lattimore our secondary is a complete mess.

PJ loses his head in game situations

Crawley can't cover fast receivers and can't read down/distance and blitz package

Vonn Bell is a liability all around

Marcus Williams is having a rather forgettable Sophomore season

Kurt Coleman - ugh....

That being said, we find ways to win. If the secondary could actually play together we'd be unstoppable.
That's why I'm not blaming DA, personally. I find we lack talent at CB

spkb25 10-22-2018 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 819288)
Let's be honest, besides Lattimore our secondary is a complete mess.

PJ loses his head in game situations

Crawley can't cover fast receivers and can't read down/distance and blitz package

Vonn Bell is a liability all around

Marcus Williams is having a rather forgettable Sophomore season

Kurt Coleman - ugh....

That being said, we find ways to win. If the secondary could actually play together we'd be unstoppable.
Your last sentence is why I'd like to get Peterson or a number 2 CB

jeanpierre 10-22-2018 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 819289)
That's why I'm not blaming DA, personally. I find we lack talent at CB
Blitzing a better CB and leaving Crawley alone on an island in one-on-one coverage and you don't blame DA?

And the dumb*ss called that more than once?!? Even this monkey learns after the first electro-shock banana experience...

The reason why we need a talent like Peterson, to match Lattimore, is too offset this kind of head-scratching schemes...

spkb25 10-22-2018 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 819302)
Blitzing a better CB and leaving Crawley alone on an island in one-on-one coverage and you don't blame DA?

And the dumb*ss called that more than once?!? Even this monkey learns after the first electro-shock banana experience...

The reason why we need a talent like Peterson, to match Lattimore, is too offset this kind of head-scratching schemes...
no, KC is not a starter, IMHO

I do blame DA for the late collapses...that is becoming a trend that I attribute to him

spkb25 10-22-2018 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 819302)
Blitzing a better CB and leaving Crawley alone on an island in one-on-one coverage and you don't blame DA?

And the dumb*ss called that more than once?!? Even this monkey learns after the first electro-shock banana experience...

The reason why we need a talent like Peterson, to match Lattimore, is too offset this kind of head-scratching schemes...
I am going to leave this right here to see if you change your mind...

vpheughan 10-22-2018 12:48 PM
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"DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED" BACK TO 2009 SAINTS VS WASHINGTON
as the Skins lined up for a 23-yard chip shot field goal from Shaun Suisham. He was a perfect 3-3 for the day. Amazingly enough, he pushed it wide right.

SaintsBro 10-22-2018 01:28 PM
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The very old football gods looking down and obviously smiled in favor of Drew.

jeanpierre 10-22-2018 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 819341)
I am going to leave this right here to see if you change your mind...
About what Spike?

spkb25 10-22-2018 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 819387)
About what Spike?
Nothing I was just looking for an excuse to post that hot..still one of my favorites

WhoDat!656 10-22-2018 05:25 PM
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