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Rsanders24 10-26-2018 07:16 AM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 819878)
Take it FWIW (Ian Rap), but it appears unlikely we see PRob again this season. Ligament damage ... yikes.

Saints CB Patrick Robinson (ankle, IR) will undergo surgery this week.
It makes Robinson unlikely to return this year. He's dealing with ligament damage, which is a worst case scenario. Robinson was playing well before going down, so it's a hit to the Saints' secondary. P.J. Williams will pick up Robinson's snaps. Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Patrick Robinson needs ankle surgery
Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Broken ankle lands Patrick Robinson on IR
Sep 25 - 4:42 PM
Robinson believed to have high-ankle sprain

Source : Patrick Robinson - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com
Man...I missed that somehow. Must have been a nasty break.

ScottF 10-26-2018 08:20 AM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 819878)
Take it FWIW (Ian Rap), but it appears unlikely we see PRob again this season. Ligament damage ... yikes.

Saints CB Patrick Robinson (ankle, IR) will undergo surgery this week.
It makes Robinson unlikely to return this year. He's dealing with ligament damage, which is a worst case scenario. Robinson was playing well before going down, so it's a hit to the Saints' secondary. P.J. Williams will pick up Robinson's snaps. Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Patrick Robinson needs ankle surgery
Sep 26 - 9:13 AM
Broken ankle lands Patrick Robinson on IR
Sep 25 - 4:42 PM
Robinson believed to have high-ankle sprain

Source : Patrick Robinson - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com
Not sure we will be bringing anyone back from IR this year.

Good rule, but hasn't helped us yet

saintsfan1976 10-26-2018 11:43 AM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
I would eventually move Crawley to cover the slot and Eli on the outside.

Crawley's quickness is under utilized on the outside. Eli's press ability should force QBs to hold the ball for another second.

If both hold true Dennis can blitz more hopefully resulting in pressures, sacks and ultimately turnovers

K Major 10-26-2018 12:22 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 819983)
I would eventually move Crawley to cover the slot and Eli on the outside.
Really sucks not having PRob.

Don't you want your better tackler in the slot role? I would say PJ is the better option (sound tackler) there but then I think back to his 2 missed open field tackles vs the Ravens & subsequent holding call on 4th down :mad:.

This secondary will be tested big time on Sunday. Hopefully the game plan is to take away Thielan.

saintsfan1976 10-26-2018 12:51 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 819990)
Really sucks not having PRob.

Don't you want your better tackler in the slot role? I would say PJ is the better option (sound tackler) there but then I think back to his 2 missed open field tackles vs the Ravens & subsequent holding call on 4th down :mad:.

This secondary will be tested big time on Sunday. Hopefully the game plan is to take away Thielan.
Robinson was hired to keep PJ on the bench and since his return I haven't seen much to convince me he won't be a liability as we face better QBs.

I could be very wrong but I didn't see Crawley as the sole problem. YES he gave up a lot but it seemed to be on coverage assignments where the QB had all day to throw.

IMO, Crawley does better in a position where he can shadow a #3 WR. We'll see how it unfolds vs. Minnesota but I'd be surprised to see two things:
1. Apple not starting (at least as much as he can handle)
2. PJ survive the entire game at slot WR.

My hope is our secondary allows that extra second our d line needs to pressure Cousins.

ChrisXVI 10-26-2018 01:04 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
I don’t think Crawley would be good at all as a nickel CB. He doesn’t strike me as a player with great awareness who could have quick hips in traffic.

ScottF 10-26-2018 01:09 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 819995)
Robinson was hired to keep PJ on the bench and since his return I haven't seen much to convince me he won't be a liability as we face better QBs.

I could be very wrong but I didn't see Crawley as the sole problem. YES he gave up a lot but it seemed to be on coverage assignments where the QB had all day to throw.

IMO, Crawley does better in a position where he can shadow a #3 WR. We'll see how it unfolds vs. Minnesota but I'd be surprised to see two things:
1. Apple not starting (at least as much as he can handle)
2. PJ survive the entire game at slot WR.

My hope is our secondary allows that extra second our d line needs to pressure Cousins.
Minnesota is ranked 25th running the ball, and our run D is first.
Can def expect 35+ throws from Cousins. Need to bend not break.

saintsfan1976 10-26-2018 02:39 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 819999)
Minnesota is ranked 25th running the ball, and our run D is first.
Can def expect 35+ throws from Cousins. Need to bend not break.
He's averaging 42 attempts a game so far!!

saintsfan1976 10-26-2018 02:39 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819998)
I don’t think Crawley would be good at all as a nickel CB. He doesn’t strike me as a player with great awareness who could have quick hips in traffic.
Neither does PJ Williams

ChrisXVI 10-26-2018 03:07 PM
Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 820013)
Neither does PJ Williams
You’re right about that. We don’t have someone who can excel in that role.


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