Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822308)

Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 822309)

I feel like it was more of the QB he was playing with. Dak Prescott is a very pedestrian QB.

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822314)

You'll get no argument from me on your assessment of Dak. But I look at a guy like DeAndre Hopkins, who had complete and utter garbage QB's for years, and was routinely double covered because he was the only legitimate threat on the field. He still put up great numbers year after year. I know Dez is older, but his decline started when he should have still been in his prime.

I'm not saying I won't root for him if he is signed, but I personally think he's done.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 822310)

I won’t dispute his diminished abilities. I didn’t pay much attention to him in recent years. He has had offers though. I know the Ravens offered him something in the ball park of 3 years/$21 million and he turned it down. He’s looking for a one-year deal and at this point probably just waiting for a contender.

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822308)

Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822318)

You're right, I forgot about the offer from the ravens. But he also flew to Cleveland practically begging for a job and walked away with nothing. He made it pretty clear he wanted to sign with them, and they need all the help they can get.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 822317)

He’ll get 1 on 1 coverage here and it’ll likely be against CB2’s and CB3’s. He’s going to kill their asses on those slants and back shoulder fades. Great for the red zone. I’m optimistic. We don’t need him of course. He’s just another weapon. We can’t pretend like he isn’t better than Carr or Meredith.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 822319)

In regards to securing a job, I wouldn't play for the Browns either. :D