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GeauxForMore 11-05-2018 07:23 PM
Dez Bryant coming for a workout
 
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...wr-for-workout

Just saw this.......

rezburna 11-05-2018 07:24 PM
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Nice.

lee909 11-05-2018 07:27 PM
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Interesting

Hopefully just looking and no injury concerns.

ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 07:28 PM
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Like I said in the Roster Outlook thread, it doesn’t look like the Cameron Meredith experiment is going to pan out. We need someone to take that #3 WR spot. Dez as a big slot WR could be intriguing.

frydaddy 11-05-2018 07:29 PM
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Hard pass.

spkb25 11-05-2018 07:30 PM
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He could do well for us down the stretch. Meredith looks done

GeauxForMore 11-05-2018 07:37 PM
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I thinks it's a win win. We get another weapon who is more then capable of helping us right now and we get to piss off Cowboys fans.

rezburna 11-05-2018 07:40 PM
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This makes us unstoppable in the red zone.

saintsfan1976 11-05-2018 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822291)
Hard pass.
Why

saintsfan1976 11-05-2018 07:42 PM
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Pats can do it why can’t we?

ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 07:43 PM
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ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 07:44 PM
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Hard pass on Brandon Marshall.

rezburna 11-05-2018 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 822290)
Like I said in the Roster Outlook thread, it doesn’t look like the Cameron Meredith experiment is going to pan out. We need someone to take that #3 WR spot. Dez as a big slot WR could be intriguing.
I think you’ll see Thomas in the slot way more. Dez doesn’t move around well. He’s an outside receiver. Slants. Back shoulder fades. Jump balls. That’s Dez.

ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 822301)
I think you’ll see Thomas in the slot way more. Dez doesn’t move around well. He’s an outside receiver. Slants. Back shoulder fades. Jump balls. That’s Dez.
You’re right Rez. MT has taken a lot of snaps from the slot this season and he’s doing lots of damage there. It’ll allow more flexibility.

lee909 11-05-2018 07:51 PM
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Brandon Marshall coming in too
Sounds like they want a big body red zone threat

|Mitch| 11-05-2018 07:53 PM
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Another strong big body could make this offense UNSTOPPABLE!


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Beastmode 11-05-2018 07:54 PM
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Insurance policy. A bad attitude redirected to winning a SB is a good thing. There would be no more drama.

Cruize 11-05-2018 07:55 PM
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I don't think the other WR's are doing badly. I just truly think nobody can guard Mike. I mean, I would look at Mike, Kamara and old man Watson until somebody stopped them. Every team wishes they had three options like that.

frydaddy 11-05-2018 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 822297)
Why
Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.

rezburna 11-05-2018 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822308)
Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.
I feel like it was more of the QB he was playing with. Dak Prescott is a very pedestrian QB.

ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822308)
Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.
I won’t dispute his diminished abilities. I didn’t pay much attention to him in recent years. He has had offers though. I know the Ravens offered him something in the ball park of 3 years/$21 million and he turned it down. He’s looking for a one-year deal and at this point probably just waiting for a contender.

turbo_dog 11-05-2018 08:01 PM
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Arnold didn't come close to catching the one ball last night, and i dont think Meridith even got a look. I wonder if Meridith is a slow learner of the playbook or if he just doesn't run correct routes or get seperation.

frydaddy 11-05-2018 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 822309)
I feel like it was more of the QB he was playing with. Dak Prescott is a very pedestrian QB.
You'll get no argument from me on your assessment of Dak. But I look at a guy like DeAndre Hopkins, who had complete and utter garbage QB's for years, and was routinely double covered because he was the only legitimate threat on the field. He still put up great numbers year after year. I know Dez is older, but his decline started when he should have still been in his prime.

I'm not saying I won't root for him if he is signed, but I personally think he's done.

|Mitch| 11-05-2018 08:11 PM
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If he is signed and catches a few taking some of the pressure off Thomas, he’ll be doing more than Carr/Meridith... So I’m all for it; as long as it’s a cheapish one year deal


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rezburna 11-05-2018 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822314)
You'll get no argument from me on your assessment of Dak. But I look at a guy like DeAndre Hopkins, who had complete and utter garbage QB's for years, and was routinely double covered because he was the only legitimate threat on the field. He still put up great numbers year after year. I know Dez is older, but his decline started when he should have still been in his prime.

I'm not saying I won't root for him if he is signed, but I personally think he's done.
He’ll get 1 on 1 coverage here and it’ll likely be against CB2’s and CB3’s. He’s going to kill their asses on those slants and back shoulder fades. Great for the red zone. I’m optimistic. We don’t need him of course. He’s just another weapon. We can’t pretend like he isn’t better than Carr or Meredith.

frydaddy 11-05-2018 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 822310)
I won’t dispute his diminished abilities. I didn’t pay much attention to him in recent years. He has had offers though. I know the Ravens offered him something in the ball park of 3 years/$21 million and he turned it down. He’s looking for a one-year deal and at this point probably just waiting for a contender.
You're right, I forgot about the offer from the ravens. But he also flew to Cleveland practically begging for a job and walked away with nothing. He made it pretty clear he wanted to sign with them, and they need all the help they can get.

saintsfan1976 11-05-2018 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822308)
Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.
All I see is an incredible talent who's production dropped as soon as Romo left the building.

In regards to securing a job, I wouldn't play for the Browns either. :D But seriously - it sounds like Dez was waiting for the right opportunity, not just money.

And who knows, maybe Sean asked him to hang on a few weeks...:bng:

ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822318)
You're right, I forgot about the offer from the ravens. But he also flew to Cleveland practically begging for a job and walked away with nothing. He made it pretty clear he wanted to sign with them, and they need all the help they can get.
I totally forgot about Cleveland so it’s all good. He did walk away from them without an offer.

saintsfan1976 11-05-2018 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 822317)
He’ll get 1 on 1 coverage here and it’ll likely be against CB2’s and CB3’s. He’s going to kill their asses on those slants and back shoulder fades. Great for the red zone. I’m optimistic. We don’t need him of course. He’s just another weapon. We can’t pretend like he isn’t better than Carr or Meredith.
Plus we can't continue to overuse AK41 and 13 much more. Too important later in the season when we face division opponents in 4 of 6 games.

frydaddy 11-05-2018 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 822319)

In regards to securing a job, I wouldn't play for the Browns either. :D
But he did want to play for the Browns lol. He was all over social media talking about his visit in the days leading up to it.

saintsfan1976 11-05-2018 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822318)
You're right, I forgot about the offer from the ravens. But he also flew to Cleveland practically begging for a job and walked away with nothing. He made it pretty clear he wanted to sign with them, and they need all the help they can get.
Hang on there....
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Bryant left town without a contract on Friday, and the two sides did not come close to an agreement. Bryant is seeking a one-year "prove-it'' deal and wants to play for a contender. But the asking price may be too high for the Browns. In April, Bryant turned down a three-year, $21 million offer from the Ravens.

The three-time Pro Bowler will remain on the Browns' radar, but they're not expected to sign him anytime soon.
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/ind..._back_dez.html

saintsfan1976 11-05-2018 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822322)
But he did want to play for the Browns lol. He was all over social media talking about his visit in the days leading up to it.
He's all over social media in general talking about workouts and plays on Monday Night Football and what he had for breakfast ..... so what!

saintfan 11-05-2018 08:37 PM
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I am 100% NOT against it.

frydaddy 11-05-2018 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 822324)
He's all over social media in general talking about workouts and plays on Monday Night Football and what he had for breakfast ..... so what!
Obviously I'm not gonna change your mind bud, and you're not gonna change mine. All we can do is hope it works out if he does end up signing.

WhoDat!656 11-05-2018 08:56 PM
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So who is the 3rd WR?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ndon-marshall/

CharityMike 11-05-2018 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 822311)
Arnold didn't come close to catching the one ball last night, and i dont think Meridith even got a look. I wonder if Meridith is a slow learner of the playbook or if he just doesn't run correct routes or get seperation.
This reminds me, I remember thinking yesterday, why in the hell in that moment of needing a 3rd down completion, would you trust to throw the ball to Arnold? But this is also part of why we need another consistent threat that can catch. Adding Dez may put us more in line with teams like KC.

WillMacKenzie 11-05-2018 09:03 PM
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Coming in for a workout is fine

long as he leaves when he’s done!

The Dude 11-05-2018 09:18 PM
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Oh **** no. This is a good locker room but it’s full of young players who haven’t learned how to handle success. There have already been some rumblings about Kamara and Thomas’s antics. I think they are at a point where they have a road to choose. Become a distraction or embrace the success and become a man. Bryant isn’t going to help the situation.
Hell I thought the cell phone thing was hilarious after the win when I found out it was a flip phone. He’s just getting more and more vocal.
We don’t need Bryant here. I think he’s a selfish me first player who may not even have anything left.

ChrisXVI 11-05-2018 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 822329)

The Dude 11-05-2018 09:30 PM
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:confused:
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 822308)
Have you seen much of his play the last couple of years? All I see is a guy who has a very limited route tree, whose ability to create separation has severely diminished. He was never a fast guy, but he's even slower now. He doesn't consistently win 50-50 balls anymore, which was one of his strengths in his prime.

This is a guy who hasn't been able to secure a job, despite so many teams around the league needing receivers. He's had a handful of workouts with some of those very same teams and nothing has come of it. Most guys in his position get jobs, or at least training camp invites on their reputation alone. The fact that he hasn't is, to me, very telling.
He openly stated he wasn’t signing with anyone who isn’t going to be a legitimate contender.


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