Report: Saints re-work Terron Armstead deal to pay Dez Bryant

K Major · 11-08-2018, 11:38 AM

FYI ...

https://247sports.com/nfl/new-orlean...ure-124392121/

ScottF · 11-08-2018, 11:50 AM

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turbo_dog · 11-08-2018, 12:34 PM

Is changing salary to signing bonus good or bad for Armstead? Or does it make any difference?

SaintsBro · 11-08-2018, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Is changing salary to signing bonus good or bad for Armstead? Or does it make any difference?

It might make a difference for him in how he's taxed, for his accountant to deal with, but in terms of sheer $$ numbers he's getting paid for his deal, it's no real difference. Signing bonuses are taxed differently than income.

TheOak · 11-08-2018, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Is changing salary to signing bonus good or bad for Armstead? Or does it make any difference?

It moves it forward which in a players eyes is guaranteed money, and they all want guaranteed money.

ScottF · 11-08-2018, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It moves it forward which in a players eyes is guaranteed money, and they all want guaranteed money.

And Loomis is smart enough to structure all of our big contracts with space to redo them specifically for these situations

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-08-2018, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Is changing salary to signing bonus good or bad for Armstead? Or does it make any difference?

No difference to him other than guaranteeing that money. But since the season is half over, essentially they are guaranteeing the money for the 8 games that he's already played and been paid for.

Generally it's better in the off season as a swap both guarantees the money and gets it to the play in the offseason instead of having to wait to get the checks during the regular season.

For the Saints it facilitates pushing those dollars into future years lowering the cap hit now while upping the cap hit on future years. Gives flexibility in terms of signing others.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints re-work Terron Armstead deal to pay Dez Bryant Originally Posted by turbo_dog Is changing salary to signing bonus good or bad for Armstead? Or does it make any difference? It might make a difference for him in how he's taxed, for his accountant to deal with, but in terms of sheer $$ numbers he's getting paid for his deal, it's no real difference. Signing bonuses are taxed differently than income.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Report: Saints re-work Terron Armstead deal to pay Dez Bryant Originally Posted by TheOak It moves it forward which in a players eyes is guaranteed money, and they all want guaranteed money. And Loomis is smart enough to structure all of our big contracts with space to redo them specifically for these situations

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Report: Saints re-work Terron Armstead deal to pay Dez Bryant Originally Posted by turbo_dog Is changing salary to signing bonus good or bad for Armstead? Or does it make any difference? No difference to him other than guaranteeing that money. But since the season is half over, essentially they are guaranteeing the money for the 8 games that he's already played and been paid for. Generally it's better in the off season as a swap both guarantees the money and gets it to the play in the offseason instead of having to wait to get the checks during the regular season. For the Saints it facilitates pushing those dollars into future years lowering the cap hit now while upping the cap hit on future years. Gives flexibility in terms of signing others. SFIAH
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