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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dam1953 The Rams exposed Mahomes. Looks like a lot of young guns, only with a better arm. Crash the pocket and keep him from scrambling and his numbers become average or worse. With our ball control offense ...
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11-20-2018, 09:44 AM | #51 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
Exactly ... How many times did The Great Donald and Fi Slamma Ramma make Brees put the ball on the ground or sack him ... Nada Baby ... Say OL domination
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11-20-2018, 10:14 AM | #52 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
I think the MVP talk with Pat will slowly die. He choked in the worst times of the game. 2 difficult opponents, 2 L's. 21 points off turnovers was on his watch.
We saw where youth and inexperience will get you beat at this level. He's a very promising player, however not quite ready for big time, prime time. Good pro but MVP? ... no sir. |
11-20-2018, 10:35 AM | #53 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
Most of Mahomes' vocal MVP support is coming from talking heads and such that do not have a vote in the matter.
Here are the voters from 2017. The 2018 list is probably close to the same: Eric Adelson, Yahoo: @eric_adelson Troy Aikman, Fox: @TroyAikman Hub Arkush, Westwood One: @Hub_Arkush Howard Balzer, Pro Football Hall of Fame: @HBalzer721 Don Banks, Bleacher Report: @DonBanks Jarrett Bell, USA Today: @JarrettBell Andy Benoit, The MMQB: @Andy_Benoit Ron Borges, Boston Herald: @RonBorges Vic Carucci, Buffalo News: @viccarucci John Clayton, ESPN: @ClaytonESPN Steve Cohen, Sirius XM: @CohenNFL Cris Collinsworth, NBC: @Collinsworthpff Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune: @markcraignfl Tom Curran, Comcast Sports Net: @tomecurran John Czarnecki, Fox Sports Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News: @pdomo Tony Dungy, NBC: @TonyDungy Boomer Esiason, CBS: @7BOOMERESIASON Rich Gannon, CBS: @RichGannon12 Fred Gaudelli, NBC: @NBCSNF Bob Glauber, Newsday: @BobGlauber Rick Gosselin, Talk of Fame Network: @RickGosselin9 Rodney Harrison, NBC: @Rodney_Harrison Lindsay Jones, USA Today: @bylindsayhjones Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network: @ClarkJudgeTOF Ira Kaufman, SB Nation Radio: @IKaufman76 Peter King, The MMQB: @SI_PeterKing Pat Kirwan, Sirius XM: @PatKirwanrfn Suzy Kolber, ESPN: @SuzyKolber Jeff Legwold, ESPN: @Jeff_Legwold James Lofton, CBS: @lofton80 Alex Marvez, The Sporting News: @alexmarvez John McClain, Houston Chronicle: @McLain_on_NFL Jim Miller, Sirius XM Chris Mortensen, ESPN: @mortreport Bruce Murray, Sirius XM Gary Myers, New York Daily News: @garymyersNYDN Nick Pavlatos, Sirius XM: @nflradionick Bill Polian, ESPN Dan Pompei, Bleacher Report: @danpompei Pete Prisco, CBS: @PriscoCBS Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today: @LorenzoGReyes Tim Ryan, Fox: @TimRyan99 Armando Salguero, Miami Herald: @ArmandoSalguero Adam Schein, Showtime/CBS: @AdamSchein Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: @TomSilverstein David Steele, Sporting News: @David_C_Steele Mike Tirico, NBC: @miketirico Jenny Vrentas, The MMQB: @JennyVrentas Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk: @NFLCharean |
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11-20-2018, 10:47 AM | #54 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
Originally Posted by K Major
Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams.
It appears that Mahomes may not the "second coming" of the QB god after. Considering that Brees owns or will soon own essentially every QB record in the book, that would appear to make him the "first coming". Yet, many talking heads somehow think that he is still not MVP worthy. |
11-20-2018, 11:36 AM | #56 |
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11-20-2018, 11:47 AM | #57 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
I think he is referring to the fact that Mahomes threw for 6 TDs for the Chiefs, and had two turnovers that were returned for TDs by the Rams. So, in a way, he was responsible for 8 TDs.
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11-20-2018, 12:08 PM | #58 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
Originally Posted by stickman
Give the man a cigar for so brilliantly interpreting my innuendo.
SaintFanINATLHELL, Note that my posts are laden with sarcasm, at least those that aren't totally irrational. I will forgive you considering the burden you live under as a Saints fan in GA. |
11-20-2018, 12:24 PM | #59 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
Originally Posted by dam1953
I got the sarcasm. Just imagine Brett Favre's combined TD totals if you went back and added them up |
11-20-2018, 12:53 PM | #60 |
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Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP
Just imagine Brett Favre's combined TD totals
Now you've done it!!! Gruden will have to mention how he was an assistant with Green Bay and their QB was a fellow named BRETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT FAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVRE!!!!! |
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