MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP

WW_Who_Dat · 11-20-2018, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by dam1953

The Rams exposed Mahomes. Looks like a lot of young guns, only with a better arm. Crash the pocket and keep him from scrambling and his numbers become average or worse.

With our ball control offense and D-line....

Exactly ... How many times did The Great Donald and Fi Slamma Ramma make Brees put the ball on the ground or sack him ... Nada Baby ... Say OL domination

K Major · 11-20-2018, 11:14 AM

I think the MVP talk with Pat will slowly die. He choked in the worst times of the game. 2 difficult opponents, 2 L's. 21 points off turnovers was on his watch.

We saw where youth and inexperience will get you beat at this level. He's a very promising player, however not quite ready for big time, prime time.

Good pro but MVP? ... no sir.

AsylumGuido · 11-20-2018, 11:35 AM

Most of Mahomes' vocal MVP support is coming from talking heads and such that do not have a vote in the matter.

Here are the voters from 2017. The 2018 list is probably close to the same:

Eric Adelson, Yahoo: @eric_adelson

Troy Aikman, Fox: @TroyAikman

Hub Arkush, Westwood One: @Hub_Arkush

Howard Balzer, Pro Football Hall of Fame: @HBalzer721

Don Banks, Bleacher Report: @DonBanks

Jarrett Bell, USA Today: @JarrettBell

Andy Benoit, The MMQB: @Andy_Benoit

Ron Borges, Boston Herald: @RonBorges

Vic Carucci, Buffalo News: @viccarucci

John Clayton, ESPN: @ClaytonESPN

Steve Cohen, Sirius XM: @CohenNFL

Cris Collinsworth, NBC: @Collinsworthpff

Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune: @markcraignfl

Tom Curran, Comcast Sports Net: @tomecurran

John Czarnecki, Fox Sports

Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News: @pdomo

Tony Dungy, NBC: @TonyDungy

Boomer Esiason, CBS: @7BOOMERESIASON

Rich Gannon, CBS: @RichGannon12

Fred Gaudelli, NBC: @NBCSNF

Bob Glauber, Newsday: @BobGlauber

Rick Gosselin, Talk of Fame Network: @RickGosselin9

Rodney Harrison, NBC: @Rodney_Harrison

Lindsay Jones, USA Today: @bylindsayhjones

Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network: @ClarkJudgeTOF

Ira Kaufman, SB Nation Radio: @IKaufman76

Peter King, The MMQB: @SI_PeterKing

Pat Kirwan, Sirius XM: @PatKirwanrfn

Suzy Kolber, ESPN: @SuzyKolber

Jeff Legwold, ESPN: @Jeff_Legwold

James Lofton, CBS: @lofton80

Alex Marvez, The Sporting News: @alexmarvez

John McClain, Houston Chronicle: @McLain_on_NFL

Jim Miller, Sirius XM

Chris Mortensen, ESPN: @mortreport

Bruce Murray, Sirius XM

Gary Myers, New York Daily News: @garymyersNYDN

Nick Pavlatos, Sirius XM: @nflradionick

Bill Polian, ESPN

Dan Pompei, Bleacher Report: @danpompei

Pete Prisco, CBS: @PriscoCBS

Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today: @LorenzoGReyes

Tim Ryan, Fox: @TimRyan99

Armando Salguero, Miami Herald: @ArmandoSalguero

Adam Schein, Showtime/CBS: @AdamSchein

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: @TomSilverstein

David Steele, Sporting News: @David_C_Steele

Mike Tirico, NBC: @miketirico

Jenny Vrentas, The MMQB: @JennyVrentas

Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk: @NFLCharean

dam1953 · 11-20-2018, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think the MVP talk with Pat will slowly die. He choked in the worst times of the game. 2 difficult opponents, 2 L's. 21 points off turnovers was on his watch.

We saw where youth and inexperience will get you beat at this level. He's a very promising player, however not quite ready for big time, prime time.

Good pro but MVP? ... no sir.

Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams.

It appears that Mahomes may not the "second coming" of the QB god after. Considering that Brees owns or will soon own essentially every QB record in the book, that would appear to make him the "first coming". Yet, many talking heads somehow think that he is still not MVP worthy.

K Major · 11-20-2018, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams.

It's gotta be.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-20-2018, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams.

New record for what? Combined TD passes in a game? Absolutely not. Brees and Eli Manning threw collectively 13 TD in that 52-49 track meet three years ago.

SFIAH

stickman · 11-20-2018, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

New record for what? Combined TD passes in a game? Absolutely not. Brees and Eli Manning threw collectively 13 TD in that 52-49 track meet three years ago.

SFIAH

I think he is referring to the fact that Mahomes threw for 6 TDs for the Chiefs, and had two turnovers that were returned for TDs by the Rams. So, in a way, he was responsible for 8 TDs.

dam1953 · 11-20-2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

I think he is referring to the fact that Mahomes threw for 6 TDs for the Chiefs, and had two turnovers that were returned for TDs by the Rams. So, in a way, he was responsible for 8 TDs.

Give the man a cigar for so brilliantly interpreting my innuendo.

SaintFanINATLHELL, Note that my posts are laden with sarcasm, at least those that aren't totally irrational. I will forgive you considering the burden you live under as a Saints fan in GA.

neugey · 11-20-2018, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Give the man a cigar for so brilliantly interpreting my innuendo.

SaintFanINATLHELL, Note that my posts are laden with sarcasm, at least those that aren't totally irrational. I will forgive you considering the burden you live under as a Saints fan in GA.

I got the sarcasm. Just imagine Brett Favre's combined TD totals if you went back and added them up

vpheughan · 11-20-2018, 01:53 PM

Just imagine Brett Favre's combined TD totals

Now you've done it!!! Gruden will have to mention how he was an assistant with Green Bay and their QB was a fellow named BRETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT FAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVRE!!!!!

11-20-2018, 10:44 AM	#51
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by dam1953 The Rams exposed Mahomes. Looks like a lot of young guns, only with a better arm. Crash the pocket and keep him from scrambling and his numbers become average or worse. With our ball control offense and D-line.... Exactly ... How many times did The Great Donald and Fi Slamma Ramma make Brees put the ball on the ground or sack him ... Nada Baby ... Say OL domination dam1953 likes this.

11-20-2018, 11:14 AM	#52
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP I think the MVP talk with Pat will slowly die. He choked in the worst times of the game. 2 difficult opponents, 2 L's. 21 points off turnovers was on his watch. We saw where youth and inexperience will get you beat at this level. He's a very promising player, however not quite ready for big time, prime time. Good pro but MVP? ... no sir. dam1953 likes this.

11-20-2018, 11:35 AM	#53
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Most of Mahomes' vocal MVP support is coming from talking heads and such that do not have a vote in the matter. Here are the voters from 2017. The 2018 list is probably close to the same: Eric Adelson, Yahoo: @eric_adelson Troy Aikman, Fox: @TroyAikman Hub Arkush, Westwood One: @Hub_Arkush Howard Balzer, Pro Football Hall of Fame: @HBalzer721 Don Banks, Bleacher Report: @DonBanks Jarrett Bell, USA Today: @JarrettBell Andy Benoit, The MMQB: @Andy_Benoit Ron Borges, Boston Herald: @RonBorges Vic Carucci, Buffalo News: @viccarucci John Clayton, ESPN: @ClaytonESPN Steve Cohen, Sirius XM: @CohenNFL Cris Collinsworth, NBC: @Collinsworthpff Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune: @markcraignfl Tom Curran, Comcast Sports Net: @tomecurran John Czarnecki, Fox Sports Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News: @pdomo Tony Dungy, NBC: @TonyDungy Boomer Esiason, CBS: @7BOOMERESIASON Rich Gannon, CBS: @RichGannon12 Fred Gaudelli, NBC: @NBCSNF Bob Glauber, Newsday: @BobGlauber Rick Gosselin, Talk of Fame Network: @RickGosselin9 Rodney Harrison, NBC: @Rodney_Harrison Lindsay Jones, USA Today: @bylindsayhjones Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network: @ClarkJudgeTOF Ira Kaufman, SB Nation Radio: @IKaufman76 Peter King, The MMQB: @SI_PeterKing Pat Kirwan, Sirius XM: @PatKirwanrfn Suzy Kolber, ESPN: @SuzyKolber Jeff Legwold, ESPN: @Jeff_Legwold James Lofton, CBS: @lofton80 Alex Marvez, The Sporting News: @alexmarvez John McClain, Houston Chronicle: @McLain_on_NFL Jim Miller, Sirius XM Chris Mortensen, ESPN: @mortreport Bruce Murray, Sirius XM Gary Myers, New York Daily News: @garymyersNYDN Nick Pavlatos, Sirius XM: @nflradionick Bill Polian, ESPN Dan Pompei, Bleacher Report: @danpompei Pete Prisco, CBS: @PriscoCBS Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today: @LorenzoGReyes Tim Ryan, Fox: @TimRyan99 Armando Salguero, Miami Herald: @ArmandoSalguero Adam Schein, Showtime/CBS: @AdamSchein Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: @TomSilverstein David Steele, Sporting News: @David_C_Steele Mike Tirico, NBC: @miketirico Jenny Vrentas, The MMQB: @JennyVrentas Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk: @NFLCharean
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11-20-2018, 11:47 AM	#54
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by K Major I think the MVP talk with Pat will slowly die. He choked in the worst times of the game. 2 difficult opponents, 2 L's. 21 points off turnovers was on his watch. We saw where youth and inexperience will get you beat at this level. He's a very promising player, however not quite ready for big time, prime time. Good pro but MVP? ... no sir. Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams. It appears that Mahomes may not the "second coming" of the QB god after. Considering that Brees owns or will soon own essentially every QB record in the book, that would appear to make him the "first coming". Yet, many talking heads somehow think that he is still not MVP worthy.

11-20-2018, 12:13 PM	#55
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by dam1953 Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams. It's gotta be.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by dam1953 Is this a new record, 8 TDs in one game? Six for the Chiefs and two for the Rams. New record for what? Combined TD passes in a game? Absolutely not. Brees and Eli Manning threw collectively 13 TD in that 52-49 track meet three years ago. SFIAH

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stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,691	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL New record for what? Combined TD passes in a game? Absolutely not. Brees and Eli Manning threw collectively 13 TD in that 52-49 track meet three years ago. SFIAH I think he is referring to the fact that Mahomes threw for 6 TDs for the Chiefs, and had two turnovers that were returned for TDs by the Rams. So, in a way, he was responsible for 8 TDs. st thomas, dam1953 and K Major like this.

11-20-2018, 01:08 PM	#58
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by stickman I think he is referring to the fact that Mahomes threw for 6 TDs for the Chiefs, and had two turnovers that were returned for TDs by the Rams. So, in a way, he was responsible for 8 TDs. Give the man a cigar for so brilliantly interpreting my innuendo. SaintFanINATLHELL, Note that my posts are laden with sarcasm, at least those that aren't totally irrational. I will forgive you considering the burden you live under as a Saints fan in GA.

11-20-2018, 01:24 PM	#59
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,719 Blog Entries: 13	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Originally Posted by dam1953 Give the man a cigar for so brilliantly interpreting my innuendo. SaintFanINATLHELL, Note that my posts are laden with sarcasm, at least those that aren't totally irrational. I will forgive you considering the burden you live under as a Saints fan in GA. I got the sarcasm. Just imagine Brett Favre's combined TD totals if you went back and added them up dam1953 likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: MNF crew really pushing for Mahomes as MVP Just imagine Brett Favre's combined TD totals Now you've done it!!! Gruden will have to mention how he was an assistant with Green Bay and their QB was a fellow named BRETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT FAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVRE!!!!! neugey and dam1953 like this.
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