Our Defense

The Dude · 11-23-2018, 09:39 AM

Secondary still a liability though. Getting better. I don’t care if they give up 500 yds a game if we keep taking it away in the red zone.

K Major · 11-23-2018, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Secondary still a liability though. Getting better. I don’t care if they give up 500 yds a game if we keep taking it away in the red zone.

As poorly as ATL played last night, they are still one of the better/high flying offenses in the league. Giving up 300+ yards to team when you've made em one dimensional ... I'll live with that.

Falcons are going to get yards on 90% of the defenses out there.

ScottF · 11-23-2018, 10:07 AM

^^^ yes, but totally undisciplined in the red zone. They can play injuries this year all they want, but they dropped the ball in the red zone 4X

RailBoss · 11-23-2018, 10:14 AM

My question is; who is the "Field General" now that has replaced Vilma.
I'm thinking Cam Jordan is moving the D but still not sure.

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/vid...w-it-is-a-race

rezburna · 11-23-2018, 10:17 AM

P.J. Williams has really improved.

K Major · 11-23-2018, 10:24 AM

Cameron Jordan now up to 8 sacks.

Captain "Shimmy" Sheldon Rankins is at 7 (5 sacks in 5 games). IMO he's shaping to become the best 3 tech we've seen in NO since L Glover. 5 games remaining and I think they both end up with DOUBLE digits before the season is over.

Footnote on "Shimmy" Rankins ... -- > 3rd most sacks of any DT in the NFL (tied with Geno Atkins). He's having a phenomenal season. He's not in Aaron Donald's league (actually no one is), but he's been very disruptive & facilitating sacks for others to eat.

AsylumGuido · 11-23-2018, 10:28 AM

The secondary is one of the better ones in the league today. Atlanta still has a top ten QB and three very good WR's. They also have a capable pass catching RB and fairly decent TE's. There isn't a team in the league that could keep them from racking up yardage once they have been forced to totally give up on the run game and start going for it on 4th downs.

Given the circumstances I feel the secondary performed quite well.

SmashMouth · 11-23-2018, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Cameron Jordan now up to 8 sacks.

Captain "Shimmy" Sheldon Rankins is at 7 (5 sacks in 5 games). IMO he's shaping to become the best 3 tech we've seen in NO since L Glover. 5 games remaining and I think they both end up with DOUBLE digits before the season is over.

Footnote on "Shimmy" Rankins ... -- > 3rd most sacks of any DT in the NFL (tied with Geno Atkins). He's having a phenomenal season. He's not in Aaron Donald's league (actually no one is), but he's been very disruptive & facilitating sacks for others to eat.

One could make a case Aaron Donald has faced inferior competition vs whom Rankins has faced. Also, Lambs have a perceived dream team on defense, yet don't perform anywhere near like a dream team.

RockyMountainSaint · 11-23-2018, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Gotta consider that some of the TDs were garbage points.

The thing that I've noticed is that when holding a lead (excepting Rams game) DA has allowed teams to score a 4th qtr TD.
The coverages he's called though aren't "prevent".
They are slightly more aggressive than that.
Sure, a team scores, but the drives have been lengthy and burn enough clock that it makes them basically useless.
A six minute TD drive in the 4th qtr when you are down by more than two scores?
By all means, have at it.

saintsfan1976 · 11-23-2018, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Turnovers were huge this week it seems; kept us out of a shootout which could have gone either way!

Very true. This game should’ve been much much closer

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11-23-2018, 09:54 AM	#22
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by The Dude Secondary still a liability though. Getting better. I don’t care if they give up 500 yds a game if we keep taking it away in the red zone. As poorly as ATL played last night, they are still one of the better/high flying offenses in the league. Giving up 300+ yards to team when you've made em one dimensional ... I'll live with that. Falcons are going to get yards on 90% of the defenses out there. RockyMountainSaint, AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

11-23-2018, 10:07 AM	#23
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Our Defense ^^^ yes, but totally undisciplined in the red zone. They can play injuries this year all they want, but they dropped the ball in the red zone 4X RockyMountainSaint and Barry from MS like this.

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11-23-2018, 10:28 AM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,045	Re: Our Defense The secondary is one of the better ones in the league today. Atlanta still has a top ten QB and three very good WR's. They also have a capable pass catching RB and fairly decent TE's. There isn't a team in the league that could keep them from racking up yardage once they have been forced to totally give up on the run game and start going for it on 4th downs. Given the circumstances I feel the secondary performed quite well. frydaddy, K Major and rezburna like this.

11-23-2018, 11:02 AM	#28
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by K Major Cameron Jordan now up to 8 sacks. Captain "Shimmy" Sheldon Rankins is at 7 (5 sacks in 5 games). IMO he's shaping to become the best 3 tech we've seen in NO since L Glover. 5 games remaining and I think they both end up with DOUBLE digits before the season is over. Footnote on "Shimmy" Rankins ... -- > 3rd most sacks of any DT in the NFL (tied with Geno Atkins). He's having a phenomenal season. He's not in Aaron Donald's league (actually no one is), but he's been very disruptive & facilitating sacks for others to eat. One could make a case Aaron Donald has faced inferior competition vs whom Rankins has faced. Also, Lambs have a perceived dream team on defense, yet don't perform anywhere near like a dream team. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

11-23-2018, 11:07 AM	#29
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by dam1953 Gotta consider that some of the TDs were garbage points. The thing that I've noticed is that when holding a lead (excepting Rams game) DA has allowed teams to score a 4th qtr TD. The coverages he's called though aren't "prevent". They are slightly more aggressive than that. Sure, a team scores, but the drives have been lengthy and burn enough clock that it makes them basically useless. A six minute TD drive in the 4th qtr when you are down by more than two scores? By all means, have at it. frydaddy likes this.

11-23-2018, 12:57 PM	#30
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by neugey Turnovers were huge this week it seems; kept us out of a shootout which could have gone either way! Very true. This game should’ve been much much closer