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I think the only for sure loss up ahead is pittsburgh. Their d line is almost designed like the dallas line and they have more weapons on offense than dallas. I think we sweep carolina still there d line and o line isnt what it used to be. I see 13-3 with the second seed.
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That drive for the Field goal to start the second half, felt like the hardest fought warrior quest for 3 points that Drew has taken the team on, in a long long time. Drew's quarterback sneak on 3rd and 1 was pretty tough, I thought he was gonna get mauled. Man it was hard going. Maybe it was just me in the moment, after being shut out for the whole first half, but I felt like that drive was the old familiar "warrior" Drew, but that there maybe hasn't been a drive that tough and gnarly for the team this entire year.
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Concerned about Kamara. How he is not in concussion protocol I do not know because that was a lethal helmet hit and he was shaken up, wobbled some.
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Not sure how a ref standing 10-15 feet away didn't call that on Arnold or Kamara. I thought the rules (crowning to the helmet) were put in place for this very reason. Deion Jones took out Kamara on that exact type play last season. Yep, I hope Alvin is ok. He was definitely dazed. |
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[QUOTE=SaintsBro;826919]That drive for the Field goal to start the second half, felt like the hardest fought warrior quest for 3 points that Drew has taken the team on, in a long long time.
I agree! That was a hard fought 3 point drive, and it felt like a momentum shift, but Dallas stayed tough and kept the door shut. I thought we'd come back & win the game (or at least tie it up for overtime) in the 4th qtr with about 6 minutes left, Dallas was 3rd & 10 near midfield, and Dak broke 3 tackles ran for the 1st down. That was a back breaker. If we had stopped them on that series we would've gotten the ball back with all our time-outs and with plenty of time to drive the field for a score. That didn't happen. After that the clock became an issue and Drew was rattled, and it went from bad to worse. |
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We were out of challenges but we used them correctly. MT, that was a catch and the other one, we won. Really crazy because anyone could see that was a fumble and recovery by MT but they made us waste a challenge on it. |
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And the gifted first-down late in the game sure didn't help the Saints any!
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Anybody have any explanation for this:
Somebody affiliated with the Cowboys on our sideline with a headset on and phone in his hand. |
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I'll hang up and listen too... |
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Every year we lay a few eggs.
The Tampa game and now this one. We may have one more stinker in us before the season ends. Unfortunately this was the only game I made a friendly wager on. Won't be doing that again.:( |
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read that away teams are 3-11 on thursday night games this season (not counting the first game of the season). bummer that this isn't a shocking stat.
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So, is he breaking the rules?
I wondered what was going on when I saw this but, if its not against the rules then he's ok to be there i guess? GEAUX SAINTS!!!! |
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Kamara passed concussion protocol
Will Jaylon Smith get fined? |
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Wondering if Kirkland stole Tre'Quan's TD. It kinda looked like he did IMO. Why are both of them running the exact same route? Looks like somebody was wrong.
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I still just don’t understand how our O-Line was so bad. We’ve faced way better defensive fronts this season. Lawrence is the only good D-Lineman they have and we got worked over.
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I doubt you see that group under perform again this season. Just a bad day at the office. Good news is that the Saints have 10 days to re focus and re group. Dallas D line domination was a wake up call for us. Fingers crossed Ramz injury isn't serious and Terron is close to returning. |
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If the 13-10 loss was the best the NFL could gameplan and throw at us, then I think we can make adjustments, grown and continue to make our run.
Agreed, we were drinking a little too much ESPN Kool aide. |
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The front seven are dogs! |
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...Cowboys have explained the issue in this way: “It’s a member of the game day entertainment staff. He stands next to the ‘green hat’ who is the network TV person who works with the officials to coordinate TV timeouts. His job is to communicate to our internal video board people when a TV time out is coming and how much time is left in that timeout as they come out of a break. He does not stand in the team bench area. They stand just outside the bench area on that side of the field.” The image that was tweeted shows the person close to Saints coach Sean Payton, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the person was in the bench area. The Cowboys insist that the employee would never enter the bench area, toward the middle of the sideline... |
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Yeah I was on a cruise during that game. My wife and I watched it from the ship. The place was full of cow fans and my wife was one of them. It was terrible. I wasn't even angry throughout the game. I was just awe struck that Drew and the offense played so bad. Even the pic at the end of the game....I was like, what the ****? What just happened? Who the **** tied up our quarterback and offensive line and left them in the locker room and put a bunch of chumps in the game? I couldn't believe my eyes.
I know they'll bounce back, but damn that was brutal to watch. They were just flat and completely out of sync. Something seriously was bothering Drew. Maybe it was running for his life every other play. |
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Wut? Is dis an esplaination? :lightsabres: |
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This was a tired Saints team. 3 games in 12 days. That's a lot.
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Actually, no, he's right, because if both teams are tired, it still favors the defense. I'm not making any excuses here, I'm just explaining the science of it. Think of it as, the difference between hitting and getting hit...hitting always is easier to do than being the one getting hit. If you are the defense, reacting to the other guy, or to the ball, and the other guy is just as tired as you are, it is always going to be easier for you, if YOU are the one reacting rather than having to be the one acting. It's just the nature of the game. The Saints offense relies on spit-second timing and finesse as well as power; if any of that timing gets thrown off even by a few fractions of the second, or by poor concentration, it can spell trouble. Which is exactly what happened, especially in the first half. But even though there is a lot of brain work and schemes involved in defense, the defense is basically still just the art of motoring to the quarterback, or trucking the guy with the ball before he trucks you, or wrapping up tackles or deflecting passes...all these things are easier to REACT to, than they are to be the one ACTING, if that makes any sense. A sharp cut or a turn on a pass route, is a lot easier to react to, if the other guy is running slower than usual, isn't it? Even if you're the DB and you're also running slower, the reaction times are closer., so that gives you an edge if you are playing a tired defense against a tired offense. Does that make sense? I'm trying to explain it.... the Cowboys were MUCH more physical in that game than the Saints, to their credit, I'll give them that; but it's a lot easier to be a power/physical team, if the other team you're playing against is flat or tired, or not moving at 100% speed. If both teams are tired, it still ends up favoring the defense. it's basically the same reason as bad weather or extreme field conditions, mud or sloppy grass, will favor the defense over the offense, every time. Also the Cowboys offense did not look *that* good, either. They were held to only 13 points. Their offense looked flat and listless in places, as well. If the Cowboys had truly dominated the Saints, they would have translated that into more points, but they actually gave up a high number of sacks and turnovers as well. It really was not a good looking game for either team. |
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In conclusion on the Cow/Saints game ...
We lost in the trenches. That 10 game win streak we had .. we dominated opponents on the O line. Pray Armstead is close to returning & Ramz is ok. |
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Unger mentioned they felt tired and sluggish. It was obvious we looked slower than usual. |
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It’s just that Payton didn’t try and change the game plan on the go seems like as he’d done in the past I don’t no I’m still puzzled Brees rolling out once or twice would have backed the dogs down just to get our offense back on its feet we did nothing ? On to the yucs
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