Worried about the Oline.

jeanpierre · 12-18-2018, 07:36 AM

No secret I don't like Armstead's softness, "un"availability, nor the excuses Payton & local media make for him; we should've been consistent and traded his arse two seasons ago when trying toughen this team...

Don't care how may A+ grades Mr. Glass gets, since the Big Mo his over/under per season has been 8 regular season games; Armstead is our most expensive player on a Games Played basis - more than Drew...

And while we were overpaying for Warford - spending that kind of money on a guard (which I still agree with) spend the extra mil Sean on Zeitler, after all it's another man's money and you're a democrat...

While I appreciate the PFF model and what they're trying to do, their system of subjective grading is flawed because it doesn't account for quality of opposition, health of players, and inclination of favoritism...

Mention this because Unger is undervalued; truly thought we were done when Max went down cause after Brees, Unger is our MVP on offense; if Unger's not available for Pittsburgh, Wow, yeah, he's that important...

Trading two for one picks is catching up to us because after Clapp, we have no draft picks being developed for depth on an aging offensive line...

K Major · 12-18-2018, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

No secret I don't like Armstead's softness, availability, nor the excuses the Payton and local media make for him; we should've been consistent and traded his arse two seasons ago when trying toughen this team...

Don't care how may A+ grades Mr. Glass gets, since the Big Mo his over/under per season has been 8 regular season games; Armstead is our most expensive player on a Games Played basis - more than Drew...

And while we were overpaying for Warford - spending that kind of money on a guard (which I still agree with) spend the extra mil Sean on Zeitler, after all it's another man's money and you're a democrat...

Can't do anything about it now. TA is still a Saint and integral piece to our offense's success. We probably beat Dallas with him. I'm no doctor but those pec injuries are extremely serious. A lot of times season ending. If he can come back and can perform, that is a HUGE plus. I hope he sits one more week.

It is most important for Armstead to be as healthy as possible and ready to play by the Divisional Round, assuming we get that bye that I believe we are going to get. Fingers crossed.

Maybe the Saints draft one (LT) in the 2nd round of next season.

jeanpierre · 12-18-2018, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Can't do anything about it now. TA is still a Saint and integral piece to our offense's success. We probably beat Dallas with him. I'm no doctor but those pec injuries are extremely serious. A lot of times season ending. If he can come back and can perform, that is a HUGE plus. I hope he sits one more week.

It is most important for Armstead to be as healthy as possible and ready to play by the Divisional Round, assuming we get that bye that I believe we are going to get. Fingers crossed.

Maybe the Saints draft one (LT) in the 2nd round of next season.

Sure, no doubt, Armstead's who we brought to the dance this year and who'll we need in the tournament...

But, it's time to move Ramczyk (who graded extremely well even as a rookie at LT last year) to LT, find a RT which is easier for a rookie or a free agent, to transition...

That will allow us to start to transition some of these players like Mike Thomas to contract extensions...

Cruize · 12-18-2018, 01:33 PM

I would start Clapp and Tom next week. With Armstead and Peat capable of going out in a moments notice, they need the experience now. Hopefully, Bushrod will be back and Peat could be the first off the bench if needed.

The Dude · 12-18-2018, 01:51 PM

Hopefully Unger will be fine. It’s a concussion right? When Armstead is back we will play lights out. He really may be the team MVP. There was a very significant immediate drop off when he went down. Even Brees has looked average. He had a huge impact on the offense this year. Our deficiencies at WR while there weren’t nearly as glaring as they are now. Sucks he’s only good for 8 games a year. He will be 100% for the playoffs and we will be fine.
Looks bad now but better now than in the playoffs

saintsfan1976 · 12-18-2018, 02:58 PM

I’d like to see Armstead next week.
Unger can rest a week.

homerj07 · 12-18-2018, 06:05 PM

We find a way to get the best out of tbe players we have on the O line.

Pit will be a tough game. Both the O and the D need to show up big time

12-18-2018, 07:36 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Worried about the Oline. No secret I don't like Armstead's softness, "un"availability, nor the excuses Payton & local media make for him; we should've been consistent and traded his arse two seasons ago when trying toughen this team... Don't care how may A+ grades Mr. Glass gets, since the Big Mo his over/under per season has been 8 regular season games; Armstead is our most expensive player on a Games Played basis - more than Drew... And while we were overpaying for Warford - spending that kind of money on a guard (which I still agree with) spend the extra mil Sean on Zeitler, after all it's another man's money and you're a democrat... While I appreciate the PFF model and what they're trying to do, their system of subjective grading is flawed because it doesn't account for quality of opposition, health of players, and inclination of favoritism... Mention this because Unger is undervalued; truly thought we were done when Max went down cause after Brees, Unger is our MVP on offense; if Unger's not available for Pittsburgh, Wow, yeah, he's that important... Trading two for one picks is catching up to us because after Clapp, we have no draft picks being developed for depth on an aging offensive line... foreverfan likes this.
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12-18-2018, 11:27 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,916 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Worried about the Oline. Originally Posted by jeanpierre No secret I don't like Armstead's softness, availability, nor the excuses the Payton and local media make for him; we should've been consistent and traded his arse two seasons ago when trying toughen this team... Don't care how may A+ grades Mr. Glass gets, since the Big Mo his over/under per season has been 8 regular season games; Armstead is our most expensive player on a Games Played basis - more than Drew... And while we were overpaying for Warford - spending that kind of money on a guard (which I still agree with) spend the extra mil Sean on Zeitler, after all it's another man's money and you're a democrat... Can't do anything about it now. TA is still a Saint and integral piece to our offense's success. We probably beat Dallas with him. I'm no doctor but those pec injuries are extremely serious. A lot of times season ending. If he can come back and can perform, that is a HUGE plus. I hope he sits one more week. It is most important for Armstead to be as healthy as possible and ready to play by the Divisional Round, assuming we get that bye that I believe we are going to get. Fingers crossed. Maybe the Saints draft one (LT) in the 2nd round of next season.

12-18-2018, 03:58 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Worried about the Oline. Originally Posted by K Major Can't do anything about it now. TA is still a Saint and integral piece to our offense's success. We probably beat Dallas with him. I'm no doctor but those pec injuries are extremely serious. A lot of times season ending. If he can come back and can perform, that is a HUGE plus. I hope he sits one more week. It is most important for Armstead to be as healthy as possible and ready to play by the Divisional Round, assuming we get that bye that I believe we are going to get. Fingers crossed. Maybe the Saints draft one (LT) in the 2nd round of next season. Sure, no doubt, Armstead's who we brought to the dance this year and who'll we need in the tournament... But, it's time to move Ramczyk (who graded extremely well even as a rookie at LT last year) to LT, find a RT which is easier for a rookie or a free agent, to transition... That will allow us to start to transition some of these players like Mike Thomas to contract extensions... SmashMouth likes this.
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12-18-2018, 01:33 PM	#4
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