QB Controversy

jnormand · 12-30-2018, 03:57 PM

Lmao!!! You guys are clowns.

TheKillerBs · 12-31-2018, 08:39 AM

This is an amusing thread, but I would like to address all the haters that I've been seeing (Not here, mind you. Mostly on Facebook.) who are all like "We're in deep trouble if this guy takes over after Drew leaves."

Guys, he was making his first start in three years, behind a patchwork O-line, mostly handing off to a 3rd string RB, with the most vanilla of vanilla play calling. Give the guy a break!

Thirty3 · 12-31-2018, 01:16 PM

Seemed tome that just about every pass play Teddy was looking for MT till almost too late to hit anyone else. Coaches design or Teddy wanting in on record?

TheOak · 12-31-2018, 01:44 PM

You guys are more serious than hearing "oops!" during a vasectomy.

Danno · 12-31-2018, 03:56 PM

I'm pretty sure on every play there are 11 assignments with multiple adjustments on the fly. One bad play can cost dearly, but may be a result of several different mistakes or a key mistake by someone you and I aren't aware of.

Also no one considers the play that would have resulted in an offensive TD that didn't work because someone else didn't do their job correctly. Only the coaches know exactly what went right, and what went wrong on every play on both sides of the ball.

I doubt one player is ever the sole reason a game is won or lost.

burningmetal · 01-01-2019, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm pretty sure on every play there are 11 assignments with multiple adjustments on the fly. One bad play can cost dearly, but may be a result of several different mistakes or a key mistake by someone you and I aren't aware of.

Also no one considers the play that would have resulted in an offensive TD that didn't work because someone else didn't do their job correctly. Only the coaches know exactly what went right, and what went wrong on every play on both sides of the ball.

I doubt one player is ever the sole reason a game is won or lost.

Danno, if you're talking to me, I'll refer you to my post directly before this one, on the previous page.

Put simply, I never said it was one guy's fault, and made a point of making that clear. But your QB has the highest responsibility to get everything in order, and to not force plays that aren't there. He has forced a lot of throws in his career that have led to some awful mistakes.

That doesn't mean he isn't elite. That's a separate discussion. I'm speaking only to the unwillingness of his fan base to ever admit something IS his fault, or even that he is largely responsible for a loss.

AsylumGuido · 01-02-2019, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Danno, if you're talking to me, I'll refer you to my post directly before this one, on the previous page.

Put simply, I never said it was one guy's fault, and made a point of making that clear. But your QB has the highest responsibility to get everything in order, and to not force plays that aren't there. He has forced a lot of throws in his career that have led to some awful mistakes.

That doesn't mean he isn't elite. That's a separate discussion. I'm speaking only to the unwillingness of his fan base to ever admit something IS his fault, or even that he is largely responsible for a loss.

Once again, the original post by the member to whom you replied simply said he could count the number of games that Brees had cost the Saints a win on less than two hands. He never denied that losing some games was Brees' fault or that he wasn't largely responsible for loses. All he said was that those instances probably numbered less than ten.

st thomas · 12-31-2018, 11:17 PM

Hearing Payton s press conference he was as pissed as any fan in the dome the team were flat out heartless and like above said just get thru the beotch without a stretchers on the field but if u saw there were players droping out of the lineup with hurt souls more than injuries / break a sweat and hit the showers if your like me I would have preferred a sharp looking practice game for a half but the shoe was on the other foot so to speak. We are spoiled that is all

TheOak · 01-01-2019, 12:18 PM

Try looking at the game from a players perspective, not just someone that plays football but someone who’s career and family wellbeing is football.

I can:
A. Play 90%, not effect our home field advantage one bit, have a chance to play in a NFC Championship game, have a chance to play in the Super Bowl... Preserve my opportunity to add to my resume and increase my value on my next contract.

Or

B. Play 100-110% and risk giving any opportunity listed above to someone else if I get hurt.

You might argue that players don’t think that way, you’d be surprised but I’m sure some do not. I’ll bet good money that their spouses and/or Agents do, and have had that discussion with them.

They don’t pull back because the game was meaningless, they all have pride and are competitive; they pull back because it’s a huge career risk to lay out on a meaningless game.

That Carolina game reminded me of the Pro Bowl.

QBREES9 · 01-01-2019, 12:26 PM

Are future QB is not on the roster.

12-30-2018, 03:57 PM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,789	Re: QB Controversy Lmao!!! You guys are clowns. spkb25, 73Saint, 44Champs and 1 others like this.

12-31-2018, 08:39 AM	#2
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: QB Controversy This is an amusing thread, but I would like to address all the haters that I've been seeing (Not here, mind you. Mostly on Facebook.) who are all like "We're in deep trouble if this guy takes over after Drew leaves." Guys, he was making his first start in three years, behind a patchwork O-line, mostly handing off to a 3rd string RB, with the most vanilla of vanilla play calling. Give the guy a break! Halo, st thomas and frydaddy like this.

12-31-2018, 01:16 PM	#3
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: QB Controversy Seemed tome that just about every pass play Teddy was looking for MT till almost too late to hit anyone else. Coaches design or Teddy wanting in on record? spkb25 likes this.
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12-31-2018, 01:44 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: QB Controversy You guys are more serious than hearing "oops!" during a vasectomy. Danno and spkb25 like this.

12-31-2018, 03:56 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: QB Controversy I'm pretty sure on every play there are 11 assignments with multiple adjustments on the fly. One bad play can cost dearly, but may be a result of several different mistakes or a key mistake by someone you and I aren't aware of. Also no one considers the play that would have resulted in an offensive TD that didn't work because someone else didn't do their job correctly. Only the coaches know exactly what went right, and what went wrong on every play on both sides of the ball. I doubt one player is ever the sole reason a game is won or lost. spkb25 and AsylumGuido like this.

01-01-2019, 05:33 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by Danno I'm pretty sure on every play there are 11 assignments with multiple adjustments on the fly. One bad play can cost dearly, but may be a result of several different mistakes or a key mistake by someone you and I aren't aware of. Also no one considers the play that would have resulted in an offensive TD that didn't work because someone else didn't do their job correctly. Only the coaches know exactly what went right, and what went wrong on every play on both sides of the ball. I doubt one player is ever the sole reason a game is won or lost. Danno, if you're talking to me, I'll refer you to my post directly before this one, on the previous page. Put simply, I never said it was one guy's fault, and made a point of making that clear. But your QB has the highest responsibility to get everything in order, and to not force plays that aren't there. He has forced a lot of throws in his career that have led to some awful mistakes. That doesn't mean he isn't elite. That's a separate discussion. I'm speaking only to the unwillingness of his fan base to ever admit something IS his fault, or even that he is largely responsible for a loss. Danno likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-02-2019, 07:04 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by burningmetal Danno, if you're talking to me, I'll refer you to my post directly before this one, on the previous page. Put simply, I never said it was one guy's fault, and made a point of making that clear. But your QB has the highest responsibility to get everything in order, and to not force plays that aren't there. He has forced a lot of throws in his career that have led to some awful mistakes. That doesn't mean he isn't elite. That's a separate discussion. I'm speaking only to the unwillingness of his fan base to ever admit something IS his fault, or even that he is largely responsible for a loss. Once again, the original post by the member to whom you replied simply said he could count the number of games that Brees had cost the Saints a win on less than two hands. He never denied that losing some games was Brees' fault or that he wasn't largely responsible for loses. All he said was that those instances probably numbered less than ten.

12-31-2018, 11:17 PM	#8
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: QB Controversy Hearing Payton s press conference he was as pissed as any fan in the dome the team were flat out heartless and like above said just get thru the beotch without a stretchers on the field but if u saw there were players droping out of the lineup with hurt souls more than injuries / break a sweat and hit the showers if your like me I would have preferred a sharp looking practice game for a half but the shoe was on the other foot so to speak. We are spoiled that is all

01-01-2019, 12:18 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: QB Controversy Try looking at the game from a players perspective, not just someone that plays football but someone who’s career and family wellbeing is football. I can: A. Play 90%, not effect our home field advantage one bit, have a chance to play in a NFC Championship game, have a chance to play in the Super Bowl... Preserve my opportunity to add to my resume and increase my value on my next contract. Or B. Play 100-110% and risk giving any opportunity listed above to someone else if I get hurt. You might argue that players don’t think that way, you’d be surprised but I’m sure some do not. I’ll bet good money that their spouses and/or Agents do, and have had that discussion with them. They don’t pull back because the game was meaningless, they all have pride and are competitive; they pull back because it’s a huge career risk to lay out on a meaningless game. That Carolina game reminded me of the Pro Bowl. SaintsBro likes this.
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01-01-2019, 12:26 PM	#10
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: QB Controversy Are future QB is not on the roster.