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SmashMouth 01-05-2019 05:31 AM

PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
New Orleans Saints defensive end Marcus Davenport hasn’t played in almost three weeks, but no other rookie has threatened his seat at the top of the class. Per Pro Football Focus’ thorough evaluations, Davenport is the NFL’s best rookie edge defender.

Davenport went down after logging 4 sacks and 7 other quarterback hits, but his real success has come in run defense. 5 of his 11 tackles have dropped opponents for loss of yards, and PFF’s in-house “run stop percentage” stat grades him best among his rookie peers at 9.8-percent.


Compare that to the production of other highly-drafted rookies like Denver Broncos first round pick Bradley Chubb, and Tennessee Titans second round draftee Harold Landry. Chubb has twice the sacks (8) and a few more hits (11), but he’s seen a significantly higher snap count even before Davenport was sidelined by injury. Landry, billed as the most pro-ready pass rusher by draft enthusiasts on social media, has logged just 2 sacks and 5 other hits. It’s clear why the Saints valued Davenport so highly, and these results from PFF just do a little more to validate the call to trade up for him.

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Saints did their homework on him.

Saint in Aus 01-05-2019 07:09 AM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
Will he be good to go for our first playoff game?

saintsfan1976 01-05-2019 08:50 AM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
Maybe the Saints knew what they were doing after all?

Who's tracking the experts' comments?

ChrisXVI 01-05-2019 08:57 AM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
I was shocked by his run defense. I did not expect him to be so capable at setting the edge and playing the run with such fervor.

jeanpierre 01-05-2019 10:15 AM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 832206)
Maybe the Saints knew what they were doing after all?

Who's tracking the experts' comments?

Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less...

Let the statistic illustrate my point...

2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison:

Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken

M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks)

S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick)


And there was what we already had:

Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent

For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...

blackangold 01-05-2019 10:35 AM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 832208)
Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less...

Let the statistic illustrate my point...

2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison:

Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken

M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks)

S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick)


And there was what we already had:

Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent

For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...

Maybe it was more than we should have given... but the comparison you have here isn’t valid unless you factor in snap counts. Even when Davenport was healthy he would play a very limited snap count. If he stays healthy, he should be the starter next year and hopefully logs north of 90% of the snaps.

Been very impressed with Davenport, even in a game where we weren’t play D last week when he was on the field he was the only one getting pressure (ended up knocking their QB out of the game).

Rell&Gold 01-05-2019 11:54 AM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
We gave up ONE first round pick and swapped spots in the first round....the guy had a toe injury pretty hard to explode from your base if you can't push off. Marcus is going to be fine when he's healthy he makes a hell of a difference. Stats don't tell the whole story,

Thirty3 01-05-2019 03:11 PM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
I like the guy's effort.

shawnkytonk 01-05-2019 03:59 PM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
Thought it was the right decision at the time, and feel even stronger about it now.

AsylumGuido 01-05-2019 04:23 PM

Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 832208)
Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less...

Let the statistic illustrate my point...

2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison:

Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken

M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks)

S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick)


And there was what we already had:

Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent

For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...

Right or wrong, water under the bridge.


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