Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams

AsylumGuido · 01-16-2019, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

Forgive me ,sir, but those articles don't prove anything o said is wrong. Jersey sales and ticket sales have nothing to do with national popularity. Adult fans hardly buy any merchandise. The Rams fan base, like most of the teams who started before the Super bowl era, are t like 23 year old Seahawks fans.
The Saints are only currently having the most success they've ever had.once Brees is gone, they won't get it back. THE Rams were popular in the 40s,50s,60s,70s,80s and are on the way to being popular again.
But at least for this game, the Saints should win..but only to lose to Pats

Last I looked I'm an adult (although I don't always act like one) and I have bought Saints gear for years. In fact, Saints fans tend to be older for the most part. We have been the longtime loyal sector. A newer younger generation has come about and are much appreciated.

The Rams' issue has been their moves from L.A. and then again from St. Louis. It splintered their fanbase. I know old L.A. Rams fans that stopped supporting the team when they moved away and then have only just now started to support them after their return.

ScottF · 01-16-2019, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

Forgive me ,sir, but those articles don't prove anything o said is wrong. Jersey sales and ticket sales have nothing to do with national popularity. Adult fans hardly buy any merchandise. The Rams fan base, like most of the teams who started before the Super bowl era, are t like 23 year old Seahawks fans.
The Saints are only currently having the most success they've ever had.once Brees is gone, they won't get it back. THE Rams were popular in the 40s,50s,60s,70s,80s and are on the way to being popular again.
But at least for this game, the Saints should win..but only to lose to Pats

First off, welcome back Will, or Teddybarexx.

Next, the Rams have been back for 2 years and don't come close to selling out their own building. Why in the world do you think they have a national following?
Second, why are Seattle fans 23? They've been around for 40 years and in 3 Super Bowls
Last, I saw about 75,000 fans wearing logo'd shirts, hats and everything else Sunday, and 90% of them were adults unless they changed the drinking age at the dome.

Utah_Saint · 01-16-2019, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

in truth, Rams have more fans nation wide then the Saints ever have or ever will. In the age of tv, it doesnt matter how many show up to a live game.

What? Where did you get that?

The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL and have been for a couple decades now.

Just a quick google search...

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cow...018-119381933/

https://ocean19.com/chicago-seo/popu...g-google-post/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-league-teams/

https://247wallst.com/special-report...r-nfl-teams/2/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...-for-top-spot/

A buncha different ways to measure popularity from Facebook fan pages and Google searches to ticket sales and prices and all of them show the same thing. The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL.

A.8Manning · 01-16-2019, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

What? Where did you get that?

The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL and have been for a couple decades now.

Just a quick google search...

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cow...018-119381933/

https://ocean19.com/chicago-seo/popu...g-google-post/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-league-teams/

https://247wallst.com/special-report...r-nfl-teams/2/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...-for-top-spot/

A buncha different ways to measure popularity from Facebook fan pages and Google searches to ticket sales and prices and all of them show the same thing. The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL.

No, these are just trendy surveys thst have nothing to do with national viewpoints or numbers over the history of the game. The Rams have been a successful franchise for basically their entire history except for the 90s and early 2000s,.they won a Super Bowl in the 90s and are obviously on the upswing again. The league wouldn't move them and keep them if it wasn't so.
The Saints are only trendy popular now, only now.
Who was more popular when the Saints were in the Rams division? Pretty obvious answer. Who won more? The Saints are the current trendy team. The Rams are the historic team that are obviously rising again. It's just how sports works

Utah_Saint · 01-17-2019, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

No, these are just trendy surveys thst have nothing to do with national viewpoints or numbers over the history of the game. The Rams have been a successful franchise for basically their entire history except for the 90s and early 2000s,.they won a Super Bowl in the 90s and are obviously on the upswing again. The league wouldn't move them and keep them if it wasn't so.
The Saints are only trendy popular now, only now.
Who was more popular when the Saints were in the Rams division? Pretty obvious answer. Who won more? The Saints are the current trendy team. The Rams are the historic team that are obviously rising again. It's just how sports works

Again, where are you getting your information? Everything from jersey sales to internet traffic shows this just isn't true. It was certainly true 20+ years ago but it's just not true today.

When the Rams bailed out on LA, they lost the majority of their fans (I was there and saw it). When they Rams bailed out on St. Louis, they again, lost the majority of their fans.

Today, not 20 years ago, the Rams are one of the least popular teams in the league. To say the Rams have more fans than the Saints have ever had and ever will have isn't supported by anything.

TheOak · 01-17-2019, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

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So you dismiss everyone's quantified replies and provide zero quantification for your own claims. That is called self rationalization, not logic.

Rationalization - In psychology and logic, rationalization or rationalisation (also known as making excuses[1]) is a defense mechanism in which controversial behaviors or feelings are justified and explained in a seemingly rational or logical manner to avoid the true explanation, and are made consciously tolerable—or even admirable and superior—by plausible means.[2] It is also an informal fallacy of reasoning.[3]

A.8Manning · 01-16-2019, 01:41 AM

no such thing is happening. its all just silly sports gossip propaganda

nola_swammi · 01-16-2019, 04:07 AM

If Goodell was all for us going to the super bowl, why did he send us those refs for philly? Their was a reason the saints broke the record for time of possession in 3rd quarter.

vpheughan · 01-16-2019, 06:20 AM

Those same Ref's missed a few pass interference calls that could have been easily called on the Saints.

TheOak · 01-16-2019, 06:24 AM

"Rams strangely have a tough time when he is the head officiator, going 0-7 with him at the helm"

Doesn't sound like the league is trying to engineer a Saints Superbowl, sounds like the league saying 'F**k the Rams" all season lol...

Hippies and their fu***ng petitions, already manufacturing an excuse for a Rams loss.

01-16-2019, 04:20 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Originally Posted by A.8Manning Forgive me ,sir, but those articles don't prove anything o said is wrong. Jersey sales and ticket sales have nothing to do with national popularity. Adult fans hardly buy any merchandise. The Rams fan base, like most of the teams who started before the Super bowl era, are t like 23 year old Seahawks fans. The Saints are only currently having the most success they've ever had.once Brees is gone, they won't get it back. THE Rams were popular in the 40s,50s,60s,70s,80s and are on the way to being popular again. But at least for this game, the Saints should win..but only to lose to Pats Last I looked I'm an adult (although I don't always act like one) and I have bought Saints gear for years. In fact, Saints fans tend to be older for the most part. We have been the longtime loyal sector. A newer younger generation has come about and are much appreciated. The Rams' issue has been their moves from L.A. and then again from St. Louis. It splintered their fanbase. I know old L.A. Rams fans that stopped supporting the team when they moved away and then have only just now started to support them after their return.
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01-16-2019, 06:42 PM	#2
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Originally Posted by A.8Manning Forgive me ,sir, but those articles don't prove anything o said is wrong. Jersey sales and ticket sales have nothing to do with national popularity. Adult fans hardly buy any merchandise. The Rams fan base, like most of the teams who started before the Super bowl era, are t like 23 year old Seahawks fans. The Saints are only currently having the most success they've ever had.once Brees is gone, they won't get it back. THE Rams were popular in the 40s,50s,60s,70s,80s and are on the way to being popular again. But at least for this game, the Saints should win..but only to lose to Pats First off, welcome back Will, or Teddybarexx. Next, the Rams have been back for 2 years and don't come close to selling out their own building. Why in the world do you think they have a national following? Second, why are Seattle fans 23? They've been around for 40 years and in 3 Super Bowls Last, I saw about 75,000 fans wearing logo'd shirts, hats and everything else Sunday, and 90% of them were adults unless they changed the drinking age at the dome.

01-16-2019, 07:11 PM	#3
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Originally Posted by A.8Manning in truth, Rams have more fans nation wide then the Saints ever have or ever will. In the age of tv, it doesnt matter how many show up to a live game. What? Where did you get that? The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL and have been for a couple decades now. Just a quick google search... https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cow...018-119381933/ https://ocean19.com/chicago-seo/popu...g-google-post/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-league-teams/ https://247wallst.com/special-report...r-nfl-teams/2/ https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...-for-top-spot/ A buncha different ways to measure popularity from Facebook fan pages and Google searches to ticket sales and prices and all of them show the same thing. The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL.

01-16-2019, 07:23 PM	#4
A.8Manning 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 120	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Originally Posted by Utah_Saint What? Where did you get that? The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL and have been for a couple decades now. Just a quick google search... https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cow...018-119381933/ https://ocean19.com/chicago-seo/popu...g-google-post/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-league-teams/ https://247wallst.com/special-report...r-nfl-teams/2/ https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...-for-top-spot/ A buncha different ways to measure popularity from Facebook fan pages and Google searches to ticket sales and prices and all of them show the same thing. The Rams are one of the least popular teams in the NFL. No, these are just trendy surveys thst have nothing to do with national viewpoints or numbers over the history of the game. The Rams have been a successful franchise for basically their entire history except for the 90s and early 2000s,.they won a Super Bowl in the 90s and are obviously on the upswing again. The league wouldn't move them and keep them if it wasn't so. The Saints are only trendy popular now, only now. Who was more popular when the Saints were in the Rams division? Pretty obvious answer. Who won more? The Saints are the current trendy team. The Rams are the historic team that are obviously rising again. It's just how sports works
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01-17-2019, 12:06 AM	#5
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Originally Posted by A.8Manning No, these are just trendy surveys thst have nothing to do with national viewpoints or numbers over the history of the game. The Rams have been a successful franchise for basically their entire history except for the 90s and early 2000s,.they won a Super Bowl in the 90s and are obviously on the upswing again. The league wouldn't move them and keep them if it wasn't so. The Saints are only trendy popular now, only now. Who was more popular when the Saints were in the Rams division? Pretty obvious answer. Who won more? The Saints are the current trendy team. The Rams are the historic team that are obviously rising again. It's just how sports works Again, where are you getting your information? Everything from jersey sales to internet traffic shows this just isn't true. It was certainly true 20+ years ago but it's just not true today. When the Rams bailed out on LA, they lost the majority of their fans (I was there and saw it). When they Rams bailed out on St. Louis, they again, lost the majority of their fans. Today, not 20 years ago, the Rams are one of the least popular teams in the league. To say the Rams have more fans than the Saints have ever had and ever will have isn't supported by anything.

01-17-2019, 07:16 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Originally Posted by A.8Manning ....... So you dismiss everyone's quantified replies and provide zero quantification for your own claims. That is called self rationalization, not logic. Rationalization - In psychology and logic, rationalization or rationalisation (also known as making excuses[1]) is a defense mechanism in which controversial behaviors or feelings are justified and explained in a seemingly rational or logical manner to avoid the true explanation, and are made consciously tolerable—or even admirable and superior—by plausible means.[2] It is also an informal fallacy of reasoning.[3]

01-16-2019, 01:41 AM	#7
A.8Manning 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 120	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams no such thing is happening. its all just silly sports gossip propaganda
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01-16-2019, 04:07 AM	#8
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams If Goodell was all for us going to the super bowl, why did he send us those refs for philly? Their was a reason the saints broke the record for time of possession in 3rd quarter. TheKillerBs and Rell&Gold like this.

01-16-2019, 06:20 AM	#9
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,547	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams Those same Ref's missed a few pass interference calls that could have been easily called on the Saints.
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01-16-2019, 06:24 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Rams fans launch petition to remove referee from Saints-Rams "Rams strangely have a tough time when he is the head officiator, going 0-7 with him at the helm" Doesn't sound like the league is trying to engineer a Saints Superbowl, sounds like the league saying 'Fk the Rams" all season lol... Hippies and their fu*ng petitions, already manufacturing an excuse for a Rams loss.

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