New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory (https://blackandgold.com/saints/92235-commissioner-has-authority-take-action-over-rams-saints-outcome-theory.html)

WhoDat!656 01-21-2019 08:26 AM

Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
And here’s where it gets even juicier. Consider Rule 17, Section 2, Article 3: “The Commissioner’s powers under this Section 2 include . . . the reversal of a game’s result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred.”

Basically, the Commissioner has the power to turn back time to the spot of the penalty that wasn’t called, put the teams back on the field from that point in the game, give the Saints first and goal at the spot of the foul, put 1:49 on the clock, and let the game proceed, tied at 20, with the Rams having one time out left.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ome-in-theory/

TheOak 01-21-2019 08:30 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
He has the power granted by Rule 17, but not the testicles to exercise such power.

dizzle88 01-21-2019 08:46 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
He hates us, as if he would ever do anything.

OldMaid 01-21-2019 09:01 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 835835)
And here’s where it gets even juicier. Consider Rule 17, Section 2, Article 3: “The Commissioner’s powers under this Section 2 include . . . the reversal of a game’s result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred.”

Basically, the Commissioner has the power to turn back time to the spot of the penalty that wasn’t called, put the teams back on the field from that point in the game, give the Saints first and goal at the spot of the foul, put 1:49 on the clock, and let the game proceed, tied at 20, with the Rams having one time out left.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ome-in-theory/

OMG. That is funny. That is their law, but it is funny.

You CANNOT do that.
THAT CANNOT BE DONE.
It is a rule the NFL has, but one of those things just there for a just in case which will never be done.
It is like one of those things you say, but you know you will never come true or you will never have to hold your word on. Have you ever done this? I have:D
:D

There is no way you can have a rematch.
Logistics. History. Game being respected. Authentic. Careers of players. Stats. Media.


NIW WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEN DIEN WAS at the time in the game, review. Replay. Pick up the game at this point.:(

arsaint 01-21-2019 10:26 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 835841)
Game being respected. Authentic.

At this point I Think the game is RIGGED and have ZERO RESPECT for it

Rsanders24 01-21-2019 10:35 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Exactly...no way that will ever happen...its a logistical nightmare and even more of a tarnish on the NFL. There is no reason that the flag wasn’t thrown on that play. If it was Williams or Apple the flag would have been thrown before the ball hit the ground.

I hope the Patriots destroy the Rams. I will always be a Saints fan but I’m done with this multi billion dollar league that can get simple calls correct. They can’t even come together as a group to discuss a potential game changing call like that?!? And because the league hasn’t addressed the issue with the firing of those refs I cannot trust this league to ever not be partial.

TheOak 01-21-2019 11:01 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 835849)
At this point I Think the game is RIGGED and have ZERO RESPECT for it

Agreed, the ONLY way the NFC Championship as well as this Super Bowl gains any ounce of integrity is if the game is over turned.

WhoDat!656 01-21-2019 11:04 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
At a minimum the official that was responsible for making that call should be fired and the head official for the game should be demoted.

OldMaid 01-21-2019 11:08 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Pardon my typos.

WhoDat!656, your point is best point.
NFL should fire that entire officiating crew.

dam1953 01-21-2019 11:18 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 835862)
At a minimum the official that was responsible for making that call should be fired and the head official for the game should be demoted.

Removal of the head of officiating seems to be a common theme. Al Riveron has to go.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...wn-al-riveron/

Apparently Riveron was just one more Goodell screw up since he put him in that slot after Blandino resigned after the NFL refused to properly compensate him. Not sure what Blandino was asking for initially but after yesterday's ****up that number should double..at minimum. Call it a shame on you escalator.

vpheughan 01-21-2019 11:52 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
History. Game being respected. Authentic. Careers of players. Stats. Media

Ask Penn State, The Louisville Basketball Program, Reggie Bush Winning but not Winning the Heisman trophy. It COULD BE DONE IF the NFL WANTED it to be done. When did having a team fly from it's home to an away site become a LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. There are two weeks till the SUPER BOWL. They Rule today the Rams could be here Thursday.

Rugby Saint II 01-21-2019 12:21 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 835849)
At this point I Think the game is RIGGED and have ZERO RESPECT for it

I believe!!!

The Dude 01-21-2019 01:35 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
The latest video I saw showed one of the refs went for his flag but the other ref told him to stop. This is getting interesting

Thirty3 01-21-2019 01:45 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Heard some Cajuns are organizing a ZEBRA hunt.

Srgt. Hulka 01-21-2019 01:48 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 835910)
The latest video I saw showed one of the refs went for his flag but the other ref told him to stop. This is getting interesting

Post that please.

Euphoria 01-21-2019 01:53 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Boycott the SB is what I say.

I mean the NFL has a huge problem now but in another couple of weeks they will sweep it under the rug. I am suprised someone hasn't been fired yet.

Vrillon82 01-21-2019 02:58 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Goodell has no balls though, thats the problem with this commissioner, hes a puppet to owners. Why I say nothing will happen.

ChrisXVI 01-21-2019 03:19 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 835910)
The latest video I saw showed one of the refs went for his flag but the other ref told him to stop. This is getting interesting


dam1953 01-21-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 835944)
Goodell has no balls though, thats the problem with this commissioner, hes a puppet to owners. Why I say nothing will happen.

I disagree. I think Goodell has one or more of the owners balls in his hand. Not sure what it is, but he had dirt stashed away. That's the only way to explain how he's kept his job considering the number of screw-ups he's made.

K Major 01-21-2019 03:33 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
I thought the ref (refer to post #18) was making a gesture to Sean Payton.

By the way, #60 is Gary Cavaletto aka the Weasel.

Al Riveron (EVP who contacted Payton after the game on blown call) side judge Patrick Turner & Gary Cavaletto need to lose their jobs.

Totally unacceptable.

dam1953 01-21-2019 03:39 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 835956)
I thought the ref (refer to post #18) was making a gesture to Sean Payton.

By the way, #60 is Gary Cavaletto aka the Weasel.

Al Riveron (EVP who contacted Payton after the game on blown call) side judge Patrick Turner & Gary Cavaletto need to lose their jobs.

Totally unacceptable.

The whole official team should be bumped down to referring peewee football games. Make a call like they did at that level and a dad will point out your mistake in the parking lot.

neugey 01-21-2019 04:07 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 835958)
The whole official team should be bumped down to referring peewee football games. Make a call like they did at that level and a dad will point out your mistake in the parking lot.


I wouldn't want to entrust the health of my son or daughter to one of those morons. I don't know if I could trust one of them to take out the trash from a Subway restaurant.

TheOak 01-23-2019 04:50 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 835958)
The whole official team should be bumped down to referring peewee football games. Make a call like they did at that level and a dad will point out your mistake in the parking lot.

They should suffer the fate of Pete Rose.. Never to posses a flag again.... well unless they are on a road construction crew.

Vrillon82 01-23-2019 11:39 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 835954)
I disagree. I think Goodell has one or more of the owners balls in his hand. Not sure what it is, but he had dirt stashed away. That's the only way to explain how he's kept his job considering the number of screw-ups he's made.

Rams owner has been pulling fishy behavior since they first moved to St Louis.

QBREES9 01-23-2019 11:46 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
I won't be watching the Panty waste and the Lambs screw the NFL.

Crusader 01-24-2019 05:24 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
The main reason why that article will not be used by the Commissioner is the precedent it would set.

burningmetal 01-24-2019 05:37 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 835876)
History. Game being respected. Authentic. Careers of players. Stats. Media

Ask Penn State, The Louisville Basketball Program, Reggie Bush Winning but not Winning the Heisman trophy. It COULD BE DONE IF the NFL WANTED it to be done. When did having a team fly from it's home to an away site become a LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. There are two weeks till the SUPER BOWL. They Rule today the Rams could be here Thursday.

Agreed, and my dad and I were having a conversation about just exactly the examples you brought up.

As for logistics, not only is is there plenty of time before the Super Bowl, but if they did this thing right, the game would only need to be replayed from the point of the foul. They are all going to cry about there being no precedent for this, but the fact is there needs to be precedent. It's time for the NFL to learn how to make something right, instead of allowing controversy to ruin the game.

vpheughan 01-24-2019 06:03 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Here's an easier way. Do just before the Super Bowl. Put 1:45 on the clock bring the Rams and Saints out. Winning team stays and plays the Patriots.

dskyyksd 01-24-2019 07:21 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 835954)
I disagree. I think Goodell has one or more of the owners balls in his hand. Not sure what it is, but he had dirt stashed away. That's the only way to explain how he's kept his job considering the number of screw-ups he's made.

Well, the Saints' owner doesn't have any balls in the anatomical sense, so hopefully that will help.

K Major 01-24-2019 07:55 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Hopefully the New Orleans media will make Roger G wiggle & bobble with difficult questions @ the Pre SB presser all of next week.

RailBoss 01-24-2019 08:23 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 835862)
At a minimum the official that was responsible for making that call should be fired and the head official for the game should be demoted.

Although I agree with you 656, ethically that should be the outcome. But these guy's will probably receive extra compensation for carrying out the wishes of the League. These are experienced Refs even a Junior HS Ref see's pass interference. Bottom line they did what they were instructed to do.


So #60 is Gary Cavaletto and this is his humble house maybe now he can enlarge that swimming pool.

https://www.trulia.com/p/ca/goleta/1...17--2146188791

Realtytrac took the listing down.
https://www.realtytrac.com/property/...-rey/51161708/

Hiyeena 01-24-2019 11:00 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Funny you Saint fans didn't feel for the Vikings when your team screwed them in the playoffs. League said it blew three calls that weren't called. One of them would have given Minn first down on 15 yard line instead of and interception. And bounty gate was the result of these late hits and dirty play. You have nothing to ***** about you were already awarded a superbowl game that you didn't deserve. So quit crying.

vpheughan 01-24-2019 11:45 AM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
HOW'S IT FEEL TO BE 0 - 4? YOU EVEN HAD "DIVINE" HELP BUT COULDN'T GET TO BE "THE HOME TEAM" SKOAL BROTHER!!!!! :rofl:

dam1953 01-24-2019 12:12 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiyeena (Post 836398)
Funny you Saint fans didn't feel for the Vikings when your team screwed them in the playoffs. League said it blew three calls that weren't called. One of them would have given Minn first down on 15 yard line instead of and interception. And bounty gate was the result of these late hits and dirty play. You have nothing to ***** about you were already awarded a superbowl game that you didn't deserve. So quit crying.

Blowing three calls in a game is probably below average. Blowing three calls in one play makes you wonder who's getting paid for that level of performance.

BTW, regarding bounty gate. Give it up. Since then, no less than a dozen or so retired NFL players have come forward and said everyone was doing it. The Saint's weren't unique, except in the way they were crucified because one disgruntled employee went crying to Goodell. Funny how the NFL ended up giving the whistleblower a nice cushy job. The league used this as an excuse to buy more time for the owners to cover their butts on the head trauma issue.

The main difference between the last two NFC title games is that in 2019 the Saints were robbed. In 2018 the Vikings were embarrassed. You guys really didn't belong there.

Utah_Saint 01-24-2019 01:40 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiyeena (Post 836398)
Funny you Saint fans didn't feel for the Vikings when your team screwed them in the playoffs. League said it blew three calls that weren't called. One of them would have given Minn first down on 15 yard line instead of and interception. And bounty gate was the result of these late hits and dirty play. You have nothing to ***** about you were already awarded a superbowl game that you didn't deserve. So quit crying.

You're telling Saints fans to quit crying, while you're crying??

irony noun
iro·​ny | \ ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē \
plural ironies
Definition of irony
1a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony
c : an ironic expression or utterance
2a(1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result
(2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity
b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play
— called also dramatic irony, tragic irony
3 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning

dam1953 01-24-2019 01:46 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 836409)
You're telling Saints fans to quit crying, while you're crying??

irony noun
iro·​ny | \ ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē \
plural ironies
Definition of irony
1a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony
c : an ironic expression or utterance
2a(1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result
(2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity
b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play
— called also dramatic irony, tragic irony
3 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning

touché....

Halo 01-24-2019 02:21 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjPPozmUgAAOwCP.jpg

Danno 01-24-2019 02:30 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiyeena (Post 836398)
Funny you Saint fans didn't feel for the Vikings when your team screwed them in the playoffs. League said it blew three calls that weren't called. One of them would have given Minn first down on 15 yard line instead of and interception. And bounty gate was the result of these late hits and dirty play. You have nothing to ***** about you were already awarded a superbowl game that you didn't deserve. So quit crying.



https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...30s5vtnjpg.jpg


Bite me.

jeanpierre 01-24-2019 02:52 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiyeena (Post 836398)
Funny you Saint fans didn't feel for the Vikings when your team screwed them in the playoffs. League said it blew three calls that weren't called. One of them would have given Minn first down on 15 yard line instead of and interception. And bounty gate was the result of these late hits and dirty play. You have nothing to ***** about you were already awarded a superbowl game that you didn't deserve. So quit crying.

Seriously? you want to come and troll about Bountygate?

Would you like to just geaux ahead and open the spreadsheet for the entire Saints-Vikings history and see where the balance sheet ends up heavily in the Vikings favor when it comes to bad calls...

And how exactly did the Saints really cheat again?

If your guys were doing their job, Favre doesn't get hit. Oh and by the way, Goodell's thousands of pages of evidence never saw the light of day - case dismissed by Tagliabue for lack of evidence...

At worst, we had players putting money in a locker room pot for big plays, not altering the ball, influencing officials, nor piping in artificial noise (yeah, ours is real and it's spectacular)...

Oh, and never mind that half the leagues' defensive players, including Vikings, had admitted on SportTalk Radio in the weeks when the story broke to having locker room pots for big plays...

Y'all had such sour grapes over losing that you had to change sudden death rules to help you cope with the loss...

While I don't agree with the politicians and lawyers chiming in for personal air time, this was a blatantly obvious call in front of everyone and three officials and was clearly ignored...

We were Goodell's patsy for "player safety", period; and we were penalized an entire season plus two second round draft picks for "player safety"...

And yet throughout the last two seasons head-shots to Alvin Kamara every game have been ignored; I blame Payton for not making more of an issue out of this...

Go ahead and troll if that's what your therapist says will help you cope with the disappointment of having gone to FOUR (4) Superbowls and never having won...

We got it done in our first try and at least we've experienced this...


http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-album...icture1288.jpg



:bng:

saintfan 01-24-2019 03:05 PM

Re: Commissioner has authority to take action over Rams-Saints outcome, in theory
 
Viking tears: They're frozen, salty, and good for you.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...iuCMAAL04D.jpg


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:43 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com