It wasn't our year

Pete · 01-21-2019, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I just want to know the name of the ref or refs that responsible for making that call name(s) so I can keep a eye out for if they so happen to ref anymore saints game

Found this

The misidentification led to conspiracy theories about McKinnely's involvement, due to his time spent as a player with the Rams and Atlanta Falcons. McKinnely's Wikipedia page was the subject of constant edits throughout the day, at one point referring to him as legally blind, another saying he was an "undercover referee working a special assignment to market the Rams."

McKinnely was a member of a Thursday Night Football crew during a 2017 Saints loss to the Atlanta Falcons, after which Payton questioned the officiating. He was also the official who ruled Broncos player Justin Simmons inbounds as he returned a blocked extra point for two points during a game in 2016.

UNACCEPTABLE!!!

In no way should a former player be able to call(Aikman) or OFFICIATE a game for teams that they have previously played for. It's BS

https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/...d2lmBRb6Qy8QP/

The Dude · 01-22-2019, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Pete

Found this

The misidentification led to conspiracy theories about McKinnely's involvement, due to his time spent as a player with the Rams and Atlanta Falcons. McKinnely's Wikipedia page was the subject of constant edits throughout the day, at one point referring to him as legally blind, another saying he was an "undercover referee working a special assignment to market the Rams."

McKinnely was a member of a Thursday Night Football crew during a 2017 Saints loss to the Atlanta Falcons, after which Payton questioned the officiating. He was also the official who ruled Broncos player Justin Simmons inbounds as he returned a blocked extra point for two points during a game in 2016.

UNACCEPTABLE!!!
In no way should a former player be able to call(Aikman) or OFFICIATE a game for teams that they have previously played for. It's BS
https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/...d2lmBRb6Qy8QP/

How do you not make this rule when you invent the game of football. It’s such an obvious conflict of interest I just assumed it wasn’t allowed.
The NFL is broken and it starts with Goodell. Too much authority falls to one man.

4everSaint · 01-21-2019, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I just want to know the name of the ref or refs that responsible for making that call name(s) so I can keep a eye out for if they so happen to ref anymore saints game

From an article on The Advocate website. All from LA or near. Hmm....

Gary Cavaletto, the referee who didn't throw a flag on the infamous no-call benefiting the Rams, lives about 100 miles from Los Angeles. The other official near the play, Patrick Turner, is described as a resident of a Los Angeles suburb. Back judge Todd Prukop is from a community just south of L.A.

WhoDat!656 · 01-21-2019, 08:37 PM

I was going to start a thread about my feeling about this game but this is as good as any place to vent.

I am still mad as hell about the non-call, but after a day to think about the game my fury is now directed 100% at Sean Payton.

I lay this loss 100% at his feet; the game should never have come down to that non-call.

When Ginn made the catch that had the Saints in the redzone the score was tied, there was under 2:00 minutes and the lambs had a single time out.

SP had to get cute. He should have called 3 straight runs; hell I would have been thrilled if he had the Saints in a victory formation.

There was 1:45 on the clock, kneel or hand the ball to Ingram or Kimara; lambs burn their final timeout.

Do the same thing on 2nd down and clock doesn't quit running until the Saints are ready to kick the GW FG.

Lambs have maybe 30 seconds to get in FG range without any timeouts.

To quote Forrest Gump,"That's all I have to say about that."

saintfan · 01-21-2019, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I was going to start a thread about my feeling about this game but this is as good as any place to vent.

I am still mad as hell about the non-call, but after a day to think about the game my fury is now directed 100% at Sean Payton.

I lay this loss 100% at his feet; the game should never have come down to that non-call.

When Ginn made the catch that had the Saints in the redzone the score was tied, there was under 2:00 minutes and the lambs had a single time out.

SP had to get cute. He should have called 3 straight runs; hell I would have been thrilled if he had the Saints in a victory formation.

There was 1:45 on the clock, kneel or hand the ball to Ingram or Kimara; lambs burn their final timeout.

Do the same thing on 2nd down and clock doesn't quit running until the Saints are ready to kick the GW FG.

Lambs have maybe 30 seconds to get in FG range without any timeouts.

To quote Forrest Gump,"That's all I have to say about that."

The Rams had started moving the ball. A first down there and it's game over. In retrospect I wish he'd have just run it too, but in the moment I fully understand what he was trying to do. Regardless, his plan would have worked had the refs not be in the can for the league to get LA to the big game.

Budsdrinker · 01-22-2019, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I was going to start a thread about my feeling about this game but this is as good as any place to vent.

I am still mad as hell about the non-call, but after a day to think about the game my fury is now directed 100% at Sean Payton.

I lay this loss 100% at his feet; the game should never have come down to that non-call.

When Ginn made the catch that had the Saints in the redzone the score was tied, there was under 2:00 minutes and the lambs had a single time out.

SP had to get cute. He should have called 3 straight runs; hell I would have been thrilled if he had the Saints in a victory formation.

There was 1:45 on the clock, kneel or hand the ball to Ingram or Kimara; lambs burn their final timeout.

Do the same thing on 2nd down and clock doesn't quit running until the Saints are ready to kick the GW FG.

Lambs have maybe 30 seconds to get in FG range without any timeouts.

To quote Forrest Gump,"That's all I have to say about that."

The play called was a run with a slant option. One of the reporters confirmed this, I believe Mike Tripplet. Drew changed the play when he saw 8 men in the box to throw the ball. Not on Sean Payton. That play works 95% of the time just a bad throw by Drew. All the blame is still on the blatant missed calls.

neugey · 01-21-2019, 09:15 PM

It was a perfect storm of us not holding the lead and tightening up while the Rams gained momentum. The Rams going quick and doing hurry up changed the feel of the game. Suh, Donald and Fowler also started dominating our o-line in the second half both against the run and the pass. The pass to Ginn to get us in that position was a prayer. The Rams completely turned the tables and we, frankly at times, choked. It was a split between Brees, Payton's calling and just everything.

In spite of all that, Robey-Coleman committed an infraction that would have given us checkmate and allowed us to narrowly escape. But the refs moved their chess piece and the rest is history.

cmike · 01-21-2019, 09:27 PM

It’s just sad and disappointing this team will be in the playoff history books 2 years in a row. MT said it best, all the hard work the players put in, only to go out like that.

cmike · 01-21-2019, 09:28 PM

On to the draft.

The Dude · 01-21-2019, 10:10 PM

We went 13-3. We made it to the last round of the playoffs with the only other team that’s 13-3. We led that other 13-3 team until the very end. We did not lose that game. What more do you want? Do you expect us to ride a 20 point lead all game every game? You people got spoiled. We have accomplished more with much less personnel wise.

01-21-2019, 11:01 PM	#1
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,757	Re: It wasn't our year Originally Posted by nola_swammi I just want to know the name of the ref or refs that responsible for making that call name(s) so I can keep a eye out for if they so happen to ref anymore saints game Found this The misidentification led to conspiracy theories about McKinnely's involvement, due to his time spent as a player with the Rams and Atlanta Falcons. McKinnely's Wikipedia page was the subject of constant edits throughout the day, at one point referring to him as legally blind, another saying he was an "undercover referee working a special assignment to market the Rams." McKinnely was a member of a Thursday Night Football crew during a 2017 Saints loss to the Atlanta Falcons, after which Payton questioned the officiating. He was also the official who ruled Broncos player Justin Simmons inbounds as he returned a blocked extra point for two points during a game in 2016. UNACCEPTABLE!!! In no way should a former player be able to call(Aikman) or OFFICIATE a game for teams that they have previously played for. It's BS https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/...d2lmBRb6Qy8QP/ Rugby Saint II and OldMaid like this.
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01-22-2019, 10:17 AM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: It wasn't our year Originally Posted by Pete Found this The misidentification led to conspiracy theories about McKinnely's involvement, due to his time spent as a player with the Rams and Atlanta Falcons. McKinnely's Wikipedia page was the subject of constant edits throughout the day, at one point referring to him as legally blind, another saying he was an "undercover referee working a special assignment to market the Rams." McKinnely was a member of a Thursday Night Football crew during a 2017 Saints loss to the Atlanta Falcons, after which Payton questioned the officiating. He was also the official who ruled Broncos player Justin Simmons inbounds as he returned a blocked extra point for two points during a game in 2016. UNACCEPTABLE!!! In no way should a former player be able to call(Aikman) or OFFICIATE a game for teams that they have previously played for. It's BS https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/...d2lmBRb6Qy8QP/ How do you not make this rule when you invent the game of football. It’s such an obvious conflict of interest I just assumed it wasn’t allowed. The NFL is broken and it starts with Goodell. Too much authority falls to one man.
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01-21-2019, 08:16 PM	#3
4everSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 843	Re: It wasn't our year Originally Posted by nola_swammi I just want to know the name of the ref or refs that responsible for making that call name(s) so I can keep a eye out for if they so happen to ref anymore saints game From an article on The Advocate website. All from LA or near. Hmm.... Gary Cavaletto, the referee who didn't throw a flag on the infamous no-call benefiting the Rams, lives about 100 miles from Los Angeles. The other official near the play, Patrick Turner, is described as a resident of a Los Angeles suburb. Back judge Todd Prukop is from a community just south of L.A. OldMaid likes this.

01-21-2019, 08:37 PM	#4
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: It wasn't our year I was going to start a thread about my feeling about this game but this is as good as any place to vent. I am still mad as hell about the non-call, but after a day to think about the game my fury is now directed 100% at Sean Payton. I lay this loss 100% at his feet; the game should never have come down to that non-call. When Ginn made the catch that had the Saints in the redzone the score was tied, there was under 2:00 minutes and the lambs had a single time out. SP had to get cute. He should have called 3 straight runs; hell I would have been thrilled if he had the Saints in a victory formation. There was 1:45 on the clock, kneel or hand the ball to Ingram or Kimara; lambs burn their final timeout. Do the same thing on 2nd down and clock doesn't quit running until the Saints are ready to kick the GW FG. Lambs have maybe 30 seconds to get in FG range without any timeouts. To quote Forrest Gump,"That's all I have to say about that." Rugby Saint II, mapcow, OldMaid and 1 others like this.
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01-21-2019, 08:54 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: It wasn't our year Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I was going to start a thread about my feeling about this game but this is as good as any place to vent. I am still mad as hell about the non-call, but after a day to think about the game my fury is now directed 100% at Sean Payton. I lay this loss 100% at his feet; the game should never have come down to that non-call. When Ginn made the catch that had the Saints in the redzone the score was tied, there was under 2:00 minutes and the lambs had a single time out. SP had to get cute. He should have called 3 straight runs; hell I would have been thrilled if he had the Saints in a victory formation. There was 1:45 on the clock, kneel or hand the ball to Ingram or Kimara; lambs burn their final timeout. Do the same thing on 2nd down and clock doesn't quit running until the Saints are ready to kick the GW FG. Lambs have maybe 30 seconds to get in FG range without any timeouts. To quote Forrest Gump,"That's all I have to say about that." The Rams had started moving the ball. A first down there and it's game over. In retrospect I wish he'd have just run it too, but in the moment I fully understand what he was trying to do. Regardless, his plan would have worked had the refs not be in the can for the league to get LA to the big game. OldMaid likes this.

01-22-2019, 11:12 AM	#6
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: It wasn't our year Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I was going to start a thread about my feeling about this game but this is as good as any place to vent. I am still mad as hell about the non-call, but after a day to think about the game my fury is now directed 100% at Sean Payton. I lay this loss 100% at his feet; the game should never have come down to that non-call. When Ginn made the catch that had the Saints in the redzone the score was tied, there was under 2:00 minutes and the lambs had a single time out. SP had to get cute. He should have called 3 straight runs; hell I would have been thrilled if he had the Saints in a victory formation. There was 1:45 on the clock, kneel or hand the ball to Ingram or Kimara; lambs burn their final timeout. Do the same thing on 2nd down and clock doesn't quit running until the Saints are ready to kick the GW FG. Lambs have maybe 30 seconds to get in FG range without any timeouts. To quote Forrest Gump,"That's all I have to say about that." The play called was a run with a slant option. One of the reporters confirmed this, I believe Mike Tripplet. Drew changed the play when he saw 8 men in the box to throw the ball. Not on Sean Payton. That play works 95% of the time just a bad throw by Drew. All the blame is still on the blatant missed calls.

01-21-2019, 09:15 PM	#7
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: It wasn't our year It was a perfect storm of us not holding the lead and tightening up while the Rams gained momentum. The Rams going quick and doing hurry up changed the feel of the game. Suh, Donald and Fowler also started dominating our o-line in the second half both against the run and the pass. The pass to Ginn to get us in that position was a prayer. The Rams completely turned the tables and we, frankly at times, choked. It was a split between Brees, Payton's calling and just everything. In spite of all that, Robey-Coleman committed an infraction that would have given us checkmate and allowed us to narrowly escape. But the refs moved their chess piece and the rest is history. OldMaid likes this.

01-21-2019, 09:27 PM	#8
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: It wasn't our year It’s just sad and disappointing this team will be in the playoff history books 2 years in a row. MT said it best, all the hard work the players put in, only to go out like that. OldMaid likes this.

01-21-2019, 09:28 PM	#9
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: It wasn't our year On to the draft.
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01-21-2019, 10:10 PM	#10
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: It wasn't our year We went 13-3. We made it to the last round of the playoffs with the only other team that’s 13-3. We led that other 13-3 team until the very end. We did not lose that game. What more do you want? Do you expect us to ride a 20 point lead all game every game? You people got spoiled. We have accomplished more with much less personnel wise. jnormand, 73Saint and OldMaid like this.
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