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For those who don't know, I was at the NFCCG. In fact, the non-call happened in front of my section. We could HEAR the crack of helmets.

Thought it would take forever to get over the anger, resentment and pain. I didn't watch a single snap of the Super Bowl but waking up to the news and reactions today, I almost feel vindicated.

My views in the NFL have been forever changed but my faith in the team and love for the city have never been stronger.

Let's go kick some ass in 2019.

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Nope. As delicious as this super bowl failure was, and it was delicious, I'm not over it at all and won't be any time soon. WE MUST NOT LET THIS DIE!!!

NOW is the time for trolling. NOW is the time for "you got what you deserved". NOW is the time to rub this in their faces at every opportunity.

NOW. NEVER LET IT DIE!

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FAKE SUPER BOWL!!!

Hope you enjoyed the 2019 NFL Super Bowl... brought to you by CNN. :doh:

To prove a point... I bet the NFL doesn't change anything seriously about how that non call affected the NFC Championship game.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/28a2...itemid=7402019

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It won't be forgotten. It can't be forgotten. But, you carry that water all you want. I'm getting ready for a revenge season part II

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I admire your gracious attitude.....but I'm not getting over this anytime soon.

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That ain't water in my bucket. That's gasoline. Jet fuel. Rocket fuel.

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So what are your plans? Specifically I mean. You’ve had a few weeks to contemplate. What is it you’ll do with your fuel?

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What can I do? I have emailed every editor for every news paper I can think of. I have emailed every sports talk show I can think of. That's the only power I have. I've stopped watching Colin Cowherd, and I have sent him an email telling him why. Same for a few lesser shows - same for Good Morning Football, Skip and Shannon, etc. I suspect as the narrative shifts soon from how great Brady is for winning another one I'll have more opportunities for more emails. I will send them.

I had planned to buy Sunday Ticket for next season. Instead I'll continue to stream the games online via nefarious sources. My point is that I am not satisfied, nor will I be until a change is made - until someone or multiple someones are held to account.

I think the fans at the dome should protest at EVERY game next season. I'm not sure how, but it should be done. People must not let this die and say, ok, the Rams lost. We're vindicated. That is EXACTLY what Roger is betting will happen. We need to make sure it doesn't.

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I'm right there with you, saintfan. I'm never "dropping this" or "letting it go".

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Personally, I feel better.

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I’m not letting it go but the Rams losing in that way does take little of the sting out of it. More so was the fact the city came together and threw the biggest party of the year to let the world know that nobody can keep New Orleans down.
There were more people here in the streets celebrating than were at the game. The pre game party in Atlanta was about as crowded as the streets in New Orleans are during clean up hours after a game.

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Seeing the videos of the interviews Brees did on Friday really helped me compartmentalize. The poise and tact he showed was excellent. I don't know how we could get through this without him.

If Brees is looking forward to putting the disappointment into next season and making sure we play harder, smarter, faster and better, put opponents away more often. I'll gladly follow him and not let the bitterness linger. Because it's not good as a fan to let the bitterness linger for too long. Do you really want to come off like a disgruntled Viking fan still butt hurt about something that happened 9 years ago? Life's too short.

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I'm going to take another dump!

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Agree

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Still on the fence... but not this below.

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Do those shirts come in Black & Gold? I'll take a dozen in XL.

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Good morning football is nothing but yes sirs to goodhell banning there host of careers if they pound on there mother ship it’s why I cut it on my programming a local sports caster has said he never had plans to ever work for the nfl so he can blast goodell and nfl refs to hell he can care less about ever working under rule

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It't why I blasted Cowherd. He's become more prominent on the network shows, and he's flatly refused to be critical the way he one did.

He rolls his eyes and tells Saints fans to grow up, as if we're pee wee league parents arguing balls and strikes, while flatly refusing to accept that that missed call is the equivalent of a major league umpire called a STRIKE on a curve ball in the dirt.

DO NOT LET THIS DIE!

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I will start by apologizing for my excessive rant here and I don't mean to derail the original poster's thread. Rather than start a new one though the "I'm over it" is a fitting thread for this to be in. I am over the non-call play and the loss.

My life as a Saints fan started in 1979. I certainly didn't chose this team jumping on a winning organization band wagon. My reasons were bizarre but included picking a team in a division that was an opponent of my father's team and having developed a dislike for his 49ers.

Losses were not an issue for me to get over and never in my lifetime did I expect to see the Saints as Super Bowl champions. The day that happened my football soul was fulfilled. This team never had to win another game again. Losses don't upset me.

But the NFCCG loss and non-call hit me like a slap in the face. This is a terrible analogy I am about to use and I also apologize if the use of it appears to make light of a much more serious situation. That isn't my intention, but I can't find a better one right now. I felt like a victim of a domestic abuse situation. One who has been accepting it, apologizing for it, overlooking it and finding excuses for it. And then this final slap in the face opened my eyes and made it the resolve I needed to say no more.

I've been disliking the path the NFL has been going for well over a decade. I've not been a proponent of the changes being made to the rules and feel the game is changing for the worse. I cannot stand the way the NFL has been managed under the current commissioner. His entire tenure has been a farce filled with lies, errors, abuse of authority, disregard for the integrity of the league and the sport. Unfortunately he has been rewarded with ever increasing revenues across the league making owners overlook his incompetence. As long as the money is rolling in the owners turn a blind eye. The bottom line is the bottom line. Officiating has been just horrific for many years and rocketing to new lows constantly. I'm reminded by friends and family of my constant complaining about the game, officiating and how frustrated I get with the sport now. I'm not just referring to Saints games. I shut off a dozen games this year that were just other prime time match ups in disgust at how bad the officiating was or how the changes just make this game so different it's unwatchable at times.

The non-call in the NFCCG was admittedly the close to home slap in the face that made me stop accepting the crappy product being offered. Made me say no more to what the NFL was shoving down my throat. The dumpster that stunk so bad for the last decade has finally encroached close enough to me that I am sick I overlooked how bad it smelled before. Now that it's so close to me I can't take it anymore.

I have loved football for over 40 years. Far too much of my life has been football. I've honestly spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on merchandise, memorabilia and going to games around the country. Not one dollar more goes to anything that says NFL. I've been fooled for too long now and I won't accept the garbage the league and commission try to make me smell anymore.

Goodell has ruined this sport and will continue to do so as long as he is in power. Owners won't make changes until they are punched in the wallet. It's a speck but it's the only leverage I personally have.

I'm over the non-call. I'm over the loss. I'm awakened and suddenly aware of the trash being served to me and the blatant and intentional ignorance of the problems in this game. You ask a thousand football fans what they find the most frustrating about football and they will all say the officiating or the commissioner regardless of the team affiliation or allegiance. How the commission and league has disregarded the most obvious and talked about flaw in the sport and refusal to address the officiating can, to me, only be construed as intentional. Having reviewed many games this year I am fully of the conclusion that the NFL is utilizing the officiating as the scapegoat to intentionally create competition in games where it may not exist to their liking. When the average football fan is polled they want scoring and competitive games. The NFL has manipulated the rules to enhance scoring and I think they have also manipulated officiating to create competitive balance. People turn off boring non-competitive games. People tune in to high scoring competitive games. The NFL believes the Chiefs-Rams prime time game was an amazing thing to behold. It was a joke of a football game to most tried and true football fans. I truly believe that the NFL has intentionally disregarded improving the officiating and possibly used this as a means to enhance competitiveness in games. Not scripting outcomes hopefully, but making sure the games are entertaining to the casual fan who's new revenues they need to capture. They don't care about the die hard football fan. They have us and all of our dollars. They need the fan who might switch the channel. They need the large market of Los Angeles to be successful. They need to international market dollars. These are where the new revenues grow, not where they have watered the grass for decades already and reaped every crop. And they will wreck this game even further to get more new dollars.

I have the Saints tattoo'd on my body in multiple places. I've been a Saints fan for 40 years. I am no longer an NFL fan and I won't spend one more cent of my money on them again. I'll watch every Saints game free of charge and that will now be the extent of my NFL involvement going forward. I can only hope the owners can see how Goodell has destroyed this league and game and maybe turn back the clock and try to make better football than try to build a better business. It's hard to overcome that greed though.

Sorry for killing the internet. Had to get it off my chest.

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Your analogy didn’t go quite far enough.

The call was equivalent of a major league umpire calling a STRIKE on a curve ball in the dirt with a runner on third, two strikes, two outs, in the bottom of the 9th of the last game of the NLCS with the score tied.

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It won't matter who the best team is if the refs get in the way. Goodell has made it clear nothing is going to change. That noncall has ruined it for me until accountability is enforced. That's obviously not going to happen as long as this commissioner is in power. I'm no longer willing to shrug off doubts about the whole thing being rigged. The damage is done.

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Dude u need to send this to every owner in the entire league seriously . It’s a very educated write up it needs to be seeded in mail bags across the country. I can say this over and over in my mind but to write it I’m as dumb as they come. Thank u for putting it down. I dropped nfl channel in a sign of discuss. For that lying ass trash of a commish

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I fully believe the part I selected, and, heck, I agree with all of it. The selected part - this is the part that fans of the GAME (not necessarily the league) MUST NOT LET GO. We have to make noise so that the league understands we're on to what they're doing and force them to fix it or deal with a reduced bottom line, which is all they're worried about. WE HAVE TO CHALLENGE THE LEGITIMACY OF THE GAMES BASED ON THE GENUINELY HORRIBLE OFFICIATING.

The ONLY way we can do that is to stop the influx of money. I'll be watching the Saints play, but I'll do so via illegal streaming again. I haven't spent any money on the league since bountygate.

We need fans from all 32 teams to get on board and DEMAND a change. This is why I say WE CAN NOT LET THIS DIE.

I enjoyed your post man. I'm with you. They're killing our game.

:brood:

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I believe as much as they were talking about the Minneapolis Miracle they should be talking about the NFL robbery from the saints

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Trying to figure which was worse the "no call" or SP's suspension.

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Actually they (sports news/103.3) still do up this way in DeathStar nation.

Long time Dallas reporter Dale Hansen had a nice commentary on "What's wrong with the NFL, Roger Goddell and the refs" right after that NFCCG.

It was a very interesting take.

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Usually I flip through all the games after the Saints games. Only watching Saints next year....don't care about the implications of other games either.

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No matter where u go what u do people are still in a mourning stage of the cheat the saints got .this is something else , at a DR. Appointment yesterday nurse practitioner goes off on the game then the office chimes in ripped shafted , it’s gonna come out something’s has to give one of them refs is gonna cash in on a book one day and expose all one said . I double pumped my eyes at her and the woman was almost in tears. Omg my relatives from Beaumont Tex all the way to jasper are still sick about the no call . I just could shake my head in agreement don’t get me cranked up I said .

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Don't know about ya'll but I'm still in mourning. Just today I'm having lunch at this little brew pub in scenic Atchison, Kansas. All lunch the TVs are playing Super Bowl highlights. It was all I could do not to puke on the table.

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Not sure if I've passed mourning or not gotten there yet. Mostly still a lot of pissed off. Keep imagining if Brees had not pushed that short pass to Thomas to stop the clock. Or, if Thomas had miraculously snagged it. Or, the penalty (any of them) had been called on "The Play". We would still be relishing in the glow of our second Lombardi. No way we were losing to the Patriots.

Not sure where I am mentally. Whatever it is I don't think it will ever go away completely.


2019! 19-0 Baby!

:bng:

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I'm over it too.

Look, as bummed out as we all were about losing in the playoffs, something was just not right with this team for the past month and a half.

I don't know what it was, but something broke in week 10 in that Dallas game and whatever fell apart, it was never fixed.

The offense was never the same again after week 10. Dallas showed a formula for taking away our main two weapons on offense (Kamara and MT) and thus in turn, Brees was forced to try and pick teams apart with a cast of no-names that were barely threatening at all to opposing defenses. This wasn't a stacked offense like 2009, 2011 or even the 2016 team. Outside of Kamara and Thomas, we had no other weapons to rely on. Kamara and MT were the main factors of this offense. MT was the highest rated WR this year in AV on Pro-Football-Reference.

We scored 10, 28, 12 and 31 in our final games. I don't add week 17 cause Brees rested and that wasn't much more than an exhibition game. Brees' TD/INT ratio was 7-5 in that final stretch. The offense went from averaging 31 points a game down to 19.

Remember that Tampa Bay game? We were getting our butts kicked until the defense stepped up and forced a blocked punt. That was the turning point of that game. The defense completely bailed us out against Carolina too and later on against Pittsburgh.

The defense really stepped up in the second half of the season and when our offense collapsed, we were relying on the defense to win games and for a while, they were doing it! They bailed us out against Tampa, Carolina and Pittsburgh.

I had a very bad feeling before the Rams game just based off how bad the offense looked against the Eagles. We would've got blown out that night if not for the defense stepping up and completely shutting down Foles and the RPO which I was worried would give us issues. The Eagles had less than 90 yards for 3 quarters and yet our offense just barely managed to put just enough points on the board (20) and yet, Philly still had a shot to win that game in the end.

The offense didn't exactly play well against the Rams and we did blow a 13 point lead, despite eventually being robbed in the end.

The Rams looked like they had absolutely ZERO business being in the SB the other night and they didn't even have fans who wanted to show up. Did you hear the crowd in that game? It sounded like the Patriots were playing at Foxboro. Brady after the game even thanked the fans, saying the team felt like they were at home.

Think of all the mediocre/flukey teams that have reached the SB in the past and were blown out. Teams like the 1986 Patriots, 1989 Broncos and 1994 Chargers, these teams at least scored more than 3 points in the big game going up against juggernaut teams that destroyed them. That Patriots team was so mediocre on offense and they still got to 10 points against one of the GOAT defenses.

This wasn't the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens, but Jared Goff played so badly, that the Patriots looked like that! Goff has been exposed as a fraud, seriously. If he don't have McVay telling him what to audible and where to throw the ball, he's completely lost. He looked like a deer starring at headlights that whole game.

Even when it was tied 3-3, it never felt close. The Patriots had 2 dropped INTs on tipped balls, one of them would've put them in the red zone and they had a fumble that went out of bounds. If they don't miss their first FG attempt, they could've went for a second one before half time and been up 9-0. This game would've been a blow out if they get those turnovers and/or if a youthful Brady had showed up that game (seriously, Brady played bad like Peyton Manning in his last SB), the Pats would've rained touchdowns on them.

I am not sure we would've beat the Patriots in the SB, depending on match ups and all that, but I do know for a fact that Brees definitely would've scored more than 3 freaking points. It would've been a better SB than this.

The pain still hurts, but I am happy the Rams were exposed as FRAUDS. Jared Goff would be Ryan Tannehill if he didn't have his coach telling him what to audible and where to throw the ball pre-snap. Something happened with Goff half way in the season where teams figured this out and began to expose him. The Bears showed how it was done and the Patriots did it too.

The Rams aren't winning a SB with Goff and I don't think McVay is the "future of the NFL" either. I'd hate to be a fan of any of the teams who just hired a young coach who talked to him. Would not be shocked if they are an 8-8 or 9-7 at best team next year. Seattle will be improved next year and will most likely give them a run for the NFC West.

If we can get some more receivers and keep improving on defense, we have a shot.

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Dude u need to send this to every owner in the entire league

EVERY OWNER IN THE LEAGUE TELLS ROGER WHAT TO DO, WHEN TO DO IT. THEY PLAY GOOD COP - BAD COP. ALL THE BAD PUBLICITY GOES TO ROGER AND THE LEAGUE OFFICE WHILE THE OWNERS SIT BACK AND PLAY THE "VICTIM" CARD. ALL THE WHILE RAKING IN BILLIONS. THIS NFL DECK IS STACKED MANY DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE OWNERS FAVOR.

IF ROGER IS SO "BAD" FOR THE LEAGUE WHY HASN'T BEEN FIRED BY THE OWNERS WHO CONTROL HIM?

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Cha-Ching - I agree with you completely but I do believe that in addition to Goff going full dear in the headlights, the Wunderkind McVay ain't near as smart as he and the media make him out to be. Even though all of the high powered offenses had statistical fall-offs later in the season. In the Saint's case is was largely due to injuries on the O-line and receiver positions. After their bye week the Rams O went mostly dormant but for games against Little Sisters of the Poor (SF and AZ).

As I mentioned in another post, the 2019 season will be a major test. Their schedule is loaded with teams that can actually play defense. Let's see what kind of numbers they put up then.

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... and the refs.

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I agree about Goff and McVay. I would be frightened if I were a fan of any of the teams who recently hired a young assistant from McVay (Green Bay, whom is in for a rude awakening with their young coach and the big baby they have at QB). I do not believe he's the future of the NFL. We heard this same nonsense a few years ago about Kyle Shanahan and all he has amounted to is 28-3 jokes since losing the Super Bowl.

I don't think the Rams will get another gifted chance like this at winning a SB. They've had zero o-line injuries in 2 years and then in the big game, Wade Phillips had a brilliant scheme that held the Pats to 13 points and none of that mattered cause Jared Goff played so bad, the Pats defense looked like the 1985 Bears out there.

True about the Rams after the bye week. Goff went from looking like Kurt Warner for half of the season to looking like Ryan Tannehill. He would be Ryan Tannehill 2.0 if not for McVay for telling him what to audible and where to throw the ball pre-snap. He does not know how to read defenses at all and he panics under pressure. I honestly thought Goff was going to be a huge draft bust in his rookie season cause he was one of the worst QBs I had seen as a rookie since the 90s. Without McVay, he'd definitely be a bust and the Pats defense reminded us that in the SB with how thoroughly they exposed him.

2019 will definitely be a test. Honestly, the more I think about it with our Saints, I believe what really doomed us was not having another play maker on offense besides Kamara and MT. No one fears Tommy Lee Lewis, Kirkwood, Dan Arnold or Austin Carr. Losing Ted Ginn hurt too. This receiving corps was probably the worst we've had in the Payton era.

I wish we had a #2 guy like the Pats do with Edleman. That would've really helped us out. In the past, we had decent TEs like Shockey and Graham who were reliable when needing a first down to extend a drive.

If we can get some better receivers or at the bare minimum, just a #2 guy to help out MT, I think we have good chances next year.

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I was just at a Wal Mart up here in Wisconsin wearing my Saints jacket... Some random guy walks by, taps my shoulder and gives me a “You guys got robbed.” Made me feel good.

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Skip was against the no-call. I don't recall him picking us to lose.

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The only way I would ever even think of get over it is to see Roger beat breathless or at least fired and those terrible officials fired and then im still not sure I would be over it. I cant believe I hate a person as deeply as I do without ever even meeting them.

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I’m over it to but the hate still remains of how it all can happen to any team any where any how can we let the refs control the OUTCOME of a game any game if they don’t fix it just go back to what it was before replay take away everything replay f it don’t care anymore

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True, Skip defended the Saints.

Colin Cowherd is the one who didn't. He pointed out the missed face mask call on Goff that would've put the Rams at first and goal and we would've likely been down 24-20 after that. He also focused on how we got the ball in OT and turned it over.

The only thing Colin had right was saying that we peaked in November and when he showed Brees' stats from weeks 1-9 in comparison to the final 6 games. His TD/INT ratio was 31-2 in the first 9 weeks. It went from that down to a horrible 7-5 in the last 6 games. Brees was averaging less than 200 yards passing to end the year. Our offense went from averaging 31 points down to 19. Something was definitely wrong with the offense and they never got back on track after that loss to Dallas. This is a legit argument and should be noted. It's the main reason I do not think we would've beat the Patriots in the SB had we got there. As badly as the offense struggled, I know in my gut that Bill B would've knew just what to do to make the SB hell for us.

Colin could've made a much better argument if he wasn't trying to hype up the Rams. He talked about the Saints offense being a problem before the game and that was why he was so high on picking the Rams. I think his pick being right was the main reason he was so smug about them winning.