Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding

02-09-2019, 09:17 PM

Player development isn't linear.

He was a rookie and as a poster stated, he "flashed" his potential. Tre' must learn better technique. A lot of his 1st season woes were mental more than anything. If he wasn't high school wide open catching a pass or a ball hitting him between the 1 and the zero, he wasn't all that effective. You really couldn't count on him outside of being wide open.

Winning one on one battles & better route running must improve. Get back in the film room and study this off season.

The Dude · 02-09-2019, 10:22 PM

Good read..
I find it odd that nobody filled him in on any of these silly details.
Sounds like he understood it but hasn’t been able to put it into action.
He has all offseason to try and understand it. I have high hopes for him.

jeanpierre · 02-11-2019, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Player development isn't linear.

He was a rookie and as a poster stated, he "flashed" his potential. Tre' must learn better technique. A lot of his 1st season woes were mental more than anything. If he wasn't high school wide open catching a pass or a ball hitting him between the 1 and the zero, he wasn't all that effective. You really couldn't count on him outside of being wide open.

Winning one on one battles & better route running must improve. Get back in the film room and study this off season.

Know I'm gonna sound like a bit of an apologists here, but consideration has to be made for the sheer number of rookie receivers - at one time...

So you don't get as much of that quality one-on-one time with the rookie(s)...

I suspect we'll see a big leap in the receiving corps as things get rolling this upcoming season

K Major · 02-11-2019, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Know I'm gonna sound like a bit of an apologists here, but consideration has to be made for the sheer number of rookie receivers - at one time...

So you don't get as much of that quality one-on-one time with the rookie(s)...

I guess JP.

All I know is up this way in Death Star Nation, rookie Michael Gallup (taken in the 3rd rd as Tre) had no issues adjusting, studying and creating separation with Dak Bortles throwing to him...even in the post season (119 yards) vs Rams. They had just as many rookies @ WR on their roster as the Saints.

Again, Tre needs to step up in 2019.

Rugby Saint II · 02-12-2019, 01:53 PM

Where was the coaching on the details? I know he had to get more one on one attention when he moved up the roster. I like that he can run a lot of different routes but will he be able to get separation or battle for the ball and bring it down consistently enough to earn Drews trust?

dizzle88 · 02-12-2019, 02:39 PM

Demaryius Thomas just become available.

Maybe we take a look?

K Major · 02-12-2019, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Demaryius Thomas just become available.

Maybe we take a look?

Older player coming off the same injury as Dez.

I'd rather re sign Bryant (if possible) & see what he brings to the table.

Hard pass for me on DT.

Crusader · 02-12-2019, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Good read..
I find it odd that nobody filled him in on any of these silly details.
Sounds like he understood it but hasn’t been able to put it into action.
He has all offseason to try and understand it. I have high hopes for him.

There is a huge difference in knowing the details in theory and in the classroom compared to be able to process the information you see on every play going at full speed in the NFL and act accordingly.

vpheughan · 02-13-2019, 05:52 PM

There weren't enough Veteran Presents to go around!! Didn't Dallas all of a sudden become good after spending a No. 1 for some guy named COOPER?

jeanpierre · 02-13-2019, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I guess JP.

All I know is up this way in Death Star Nation, rookie Michael Gallup (taken in the 3rd rd as Tre) had no issues adjusting, studying and creating separation with Dak Bortles throwing to him...even in the post season (119 yards) vs Rams. They had just as many rookies @ WR on their roster as the Saints.

Again, Tre needs to step up in 2019.

No question. Point I was attempting to illustrate was that we had several rookies come into the system all at once; so it's not just him that should be improved Year 2, but Kirkwood, essentially new position Arnold...

So part of the problem was a system issue figuring all those rookies out, where they best fit, and splitting all that one-on-one-Coach-Curtis-Whoopin'-Stick-Training among more rookies than usual...

If anything, he ran away from everyone in TC like a bat-outta-hell (cue Meatloaf) and then, some reason, just disappeared like Homer Simpson into the shrubs...

Injury? Lifestyle adjustment? Maturity? 3rd round pick, you right, he's gotta step it up...

02-09-2019, 09:17 PM	#11
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Player development isn't linear. He was a rookie and as a poster stated, he "flashed" his potential. Tre' must learn better technique. A lot of his 1st season woes were mental more than anything. If he wasn't high school wide open catching a pass or a ball hitting him between the 1 and the zero, he wasn't all that effective. You really couldn't count on him outside of being wide open. Winning one on one battles & better route running must improve. Get back in the film room and study this off season. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.
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02-09-2019, 10:22 PM	#12
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Good read.. I find it odd that nobody filled him in on any of these silly details. Sounds like he understood it but hasn’t been able to put it into action. He has all offseason to try and understand it. I have high hopes for him. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-11-2019, 09:41 AM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Originally Posted by K Major Player development isn't linear. He was a rookie and as a poster stated, he "flashed" his potential. Tre' must learn better technique. A lot of his 1st season woes were mental more than anything. If he wasn't high school wide open catching a pass or a ball hitting him between the 1 and the zero, he wasn't all that effective. You really couldn't count on him outside of being wide open. Winning one on one battles & better route running must improve. Get back in the film room and study this off season. Know I'm gonna sound like a bit of an apologists here, but consideration has to be made for the sheer number of rookie receivers - at one time... So you don't get as much of that quality one-on-one time with the rookie(s)... I suspect we'll see a big leap in the receiving corps as things get rolling this upcoming season Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

02-11-2019, 10:04 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Originally Posted by jeanpierre Know I'm gonna sound like a bit of an apologists here, but consideration has to be made for the sheer number of rookie receivers - at one time... So you don't get as much of that quality one-on-one time with the rookie(s)... I guess JP. All I know is up this way in Death Star Nation, rookie Michael Gallup (taken in the 3rd rd as Tre) had no issues adjusting, studying and creating separation with Dak Bortles throwing to him...even in the post season (119 yards) vs Rams. They had just as many rookies @ WR on their roster as the Saints. Again, Tre needs to step up in 2019. jeanpierre likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Where was the coaching on the details? I know he had to get more one on one attention when he moved up the roster. I like that he can run a lot of different routes but will he be able to get separation or battle for the ball and bring it down consistently enough to earn Drews trust?

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02-12-2019, 03:03 PM	#17
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Originally Posted by dizzle88 Demaryius Thomas just become available. Maybe we take a look? Older player coming off the same injury as Dez. I'd rather re sign Bryant (if possible) & see what he brings to the table. Hard pass for me on DT.

02-12-2019, 03:35 PM	#18
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Originally Posted by The Dude Good read.. I find it odd that nobody filled him in on any of these silly details. Sounds like he understood it but hasn’t been able to put it into action. He has all offseason to try and understand it. I have high hopes for him. There is a huge difference in knowing the details in theory and in the classroom compared to be able to process the information you see on every play going at full speed in the NFL and act accordingly. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding There weren't enough Veteran Presents to go around!! Didn't Dallas all of a sudden become good after spending a No. 1 for some guy named COOPER?
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02-13-2019, 11:20 PM	#20
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints rookie review: Tre'Quan Smith had flashes, but looks to improve with deeper understanding Originally Posted by K Major I guess JP. All I know is up this way in Death Star Nation, rookie Michael Gallup (taken in the 3rd rd as Tre) had no issues adjusting, studying and creating separation with Dak Bortles throwing to him...even in the post season (119 yards) vs Rams. They had just as many rookies @ WR on their roster as the Saints. Again, Tre needs to step up in 2019. No question. Point I was attempting to illustrate was that we had several rookies come into the system all at once; so it's not just him that should be improved Year 2, but Kirkwood, essentially new position Arnold... So part of the problem was a system issue figuring all those rookies out, where they best fit, and splitting all that one-on-one-Coach-Curtis-Whoopin'-Stick-Training among more rookies than usual... If anything, he ran away from everyone in TC like a bat-outta-hell (cue Meatloaf) and then, some reason, just disappeared like Homer Simpson into the shrubs... Injury? Lifestyle adjustment? Maturity? 3rd round pick, you right, he's gotta step it up...
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