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CHA_CHING 04-24-2019 11:15 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 843070)
I completely agree. Has anyone looked at his stats? In two years as a starting qb with the viqueens he had 28 tds, 21 into and only 6100 yards. Would anyone on her accept those numbers after drew????? He is bottom line overrated. He’s a more injured Jason Campbell. His windup is more on line with a softball pitcher.

I like him, but this fan base has acted like he is the next Steve Young since he was signed. He is a backup for a reason and no one wanted him last year as a starter anywhere. He would've been a backup with the Jets who were set from day 1 to make rookie Darnold the starter.

I think the reason people are so positive about Bridgewater is that he's a very likable and friendly guy off the field. Vikings fans absolutely loved him for this reason and some of them wanted him to come back.

I think he's a good backup, but he's not Drew's replacement. When it comes time for replacing him, I think Payton will draft a QB (here's me wishing we could some how get Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson. That kid is going to be something special).

ScottF 04-25-2019 09:42 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
so we invested a third round pick and a seven million dollar contract on a player who is not very good and does not have a future with the club? Um...okay

voodooido 04-25-2019 10:55 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 843098)
so we invested a third round pick and a seven million dollar contract on a player who is not very good and does not have a future with the club? Um...okay

Yes, it’s called insurance for a 41 yr old qb

K Major 04-26-2019 08:01 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
Wonder what happens with Rosen now & where he'll eventually land now that Murray is the new kid on the block? Maybe they keep him?

I don't even think Miami will call.

voodooido 04-26-2019 09:10 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 843211)
Wonder what happens with Rosen now & where he'll eventually land now that Murray is the new kid on the block? Maybe they keep him?

I don't even think Miami will call.

If they keep him one qb will eventually demand a trade. The longer they keep him the less they will get.

K Major 04-26-2019 09:20 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 843216)
If they keep him one qb will eventually demand a trade. The longer they keep him the less they will get.

Yep.

IMO Rosen will become a better Pro QB than Murray. Cards O line is trash, trash & I see Kyler running for his life.

Josh should be elated that they are looking to trade him.

vpheughan 04-26-2019 10:11 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
A talented quarterback who was built for the position. Although he is slightly undersized, his athletic ability lends well to him being able to be an NFL-type quarterback who can make plays with his feet, extend plays, make the deep throw, and lead a team down the field. He has some of the same natural talents that Baker Mayfield had in the 2018 draft. Overcomes a slight size deficiency by simply being so athletic that defenders rarely get a shot on him. As a hurdler (out of high school) it is apparent that he is extremely explosive. He drops back with absolute ease. He is able to feel comfortable enough in the pocket to step into a throw in traffic, or reset outside the pocket. At this point he can also move the ball downfield with his feet. While many would argue that he might be an athlete playing quarterback, his senior year reaffirmed that he is simply an athletic quarterback, a guy who can make all the smart throws first, and create later if necessary.

A SURE FIRE CAN'T MISS!!!!

Rsanders24 04-26-2019 10:28 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
I watched several of Rosen’s games last year and was not too impressed. Even when he had time he wasn’t that good at times but maybe he was just rattled. At this point I wouldn’t invest more than a 3rd for him and I’m sure if that’s all they are being offered the Cardinals will just hold onto him for cheap insurance.

voodooido 04-26-2019 12:32 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 843223)
I watched several of Rosen’s games last year and was not too impressed. Even when he had time he wasn’t that good at times but maybe he was just rattled. At this point I wouldn’t invest more than a 3rd for him and I’m sure if that’s all they are being offered the Cardinals will just hold onto him for cheap insurance.

Well he was a rookie with no o-line and a lackluster running game. Any qb would be flustered

shawnkytonk 04-26-2019 12:43 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
Would still rather have Teddy than Rosen.

QBREES9 04-26-2019 12:51 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
He just might be humble, bring him in. Better upside then Teddy.

shawnkytonk 04-26-2019 01:14 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 843245)
Better upside then Teddy.

Not really seeing that. Teddy has a pro bowl season.

shawnkytonk 04-26-2019 01:14 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
Not that being a pro bowler means elite.

CHA_CHING 04-26-2019 02:53 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
Teddy's Pro Bowl season he had 14 TDs, 9 INTs and over 3,200 yards passing with a ANY/A of 5.70.

CHA_CHING 04-26-2019 02:57 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 843217)
Yep.

IMO Rosen will become a better Pro QB than Murray. Cards O line is trash, trash & I see Kyler running for his life.

Josh should be elated that they are looking to trade him.

100% agree. I posted a link to a FP article here in the first page of this topic showcasing how Arizona's offense ranked dead last in every category last year.

I don't know what the hell the Cards are doing. They just hired a coach who was lackluster in college and then traded away their QB they drafted just last year to take another one. If that o-line hasn't improved at all, they are going to be just as bad as last year.

K Major 04-26-2019 03:27 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 843211)
Wonder what happens with Rosen now & where he'll eventually land now that Murray is the new kid on the block? Maybe they keep him?

I don't even think Miami will call.

Well, maybe they will...

Dolphins, Cardinals closing in on a deal for Josh Rosen.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...or-josh-rosen/

OldMaid 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
As of now, Rosen is unpicked.

GeauxForMore 04-26-2019 08:28 PM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
Who would of thought our pick would of been used to trade for Rosen.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_Saint...48048823857152

foreverfan 04-27-2019 12:58 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
Cards unload Josh Rosen to Dolphins;

When the NFL's Arizona Cardinals selected Oklahoma's Kyler Murray with the No. 1 pick in this year's draft on Thursday, the selection set up a potential quarterback competition between Murray and Arizona's 2018 starter, Josh Rosen, who was the team's top pick in last year's draft.

But now that competition won't be happening. The Cardinals are trading quarterback Rosen -- the overall No. 10 selection in last year's draft -- to the Miami Dolphins, according to multiple reports.

In return, the Cardinals are expected to receive the No. 62 pick overall and a fifth-round pick in 2020, the reports said. The trade has been expected for weeks.

ChrisXVI 04-27-2019 10:02 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
And when the Dolphins draft Tua in the 1st next year?? :rofl:

Supertek 04-30-2019 08:01 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
I hope Arizona bombs out this year I don't think Murray is what they think he is. Time will tell.

dizzle88 04-30-2019 08:21 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
I personally hope Rosen has a great season and the Cards continue to circle the drain.

If that happens, they will use the "Murray is only a rookie" card, yet that didn't seem to matter when Rosen was being traded.

The games I saw, Rosen made some pretty good throws, especially considering how trash the supporting cast were around him.

K Major 04-30-2019 08:51 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
If the new Coach Flores can build a solid O line around Rosen, he could flourish in South Beach.

vpheughan 04-30-2019 11:19 AM

Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen?
 
My lengthy post wasn't on Murray, With the exception of a few edits, it is word for word the opinion of some EGGSPURT on none other than Robert Griffin III.


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