Saints Sign Latavius Murray

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2019, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I'm not a fan of this move. I realize Ingram probably wanted more money than he's worth, given his percentage of touches. Still, he was one of the best for the locker room chemistry. And Murray in no way will fill Ingram's shoes.

Stats are virtually identical. Why over pay?

SmashMouth · 03-12-2019, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

Four-year, $14.4 million contract. Sold signing this obviously means Ingram is gone.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I like it. History aside, Ingram is a widget. Nonsense in overpaying for a cog. Goood luck Mark but we need a solid O line

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints probably just couldn't or willing to match a contract from other suitors.

The financial folks probably gave MI a number and a deadline. Unfortunate we'll lose Mark but the NFL is a business.

I wish Mark well wherever he lands though. He gave 100% on every down.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats are virtually identical. Why over pay?

We overpaid to get Ingram in the beginning with the multiple draft picks. And he took his sweet time developing. So he owes us a hometown discount. His locker room presence has value, but not at an inflated price. If he does sign elsewhere, best of luck to him.

Rsanders24 · 03-12-2019, 01:25 PM

It’s a huge gamble...I just hope it pays off. I don’t like the idea of messing with our core offensive players but I trust the staff to make the right decision. I just hope Murray can pick up the offense quickly and contribute immediately.

brees84 · 03-12-2019, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats are virtually identical. Why over pay?

Also it will be Kamara show. Dude is too good to be just 3rd down back. You don't pay 7-8 mil per year for 2nd option at RB position. Can't blame Mark, you have to take the money in this situation. Overall Mark is better player than Murray but Murray excels in things we need the most with Kamara as lead back. That's power running between the tackles and 3&1, 4&1 situations.

ScottF · 03-12-2019, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I'm not a fan of this move. I realize Ingram probably wanted more money than he's worth, given his percentage of touches. Still, he was one of the best for the locker room chemistry. And Murray in no way will fill Ingram's shoes.

Need to separate the man from the myth ->

Reality; he had a solid, unspectacular career and was paid well. If GB or someone else wants to give a 29yr old with 6000 career yards a 6 million dollar contract, so be it. We just got younger, bigger, cheaper

ChrisXVI · 03-12-2019, 02:13 PM

Taking the emotion out of it, I’m fine with Murray as our #2 RB and he’s coming cheap.

Putting the emotion back into it... Don’t go Mark! I’m going to miss him so much.

voodooido · 03-12-2019, 02:32 PM

Good pounding rb to spell AK. I hate losing MIA but Murray is a good replacement

jeanpierre · 03-12-2019, 02:34 PM

Like Smash, I hated how we acquired Ingram - not the man, well, I hated his TD spasm dance, but I liked his team-first energy, spirit...

But the impact in acquiring him arguably cost four add'l high picks (one R1, three R2s) plus the first used if you factor the Belichick Trade (R2, FR1) and then Bountygate Penalty likely would have been only a first...

His production was awful for the initial investment, he barely justified one third round pick; but over fiver years he finally became the lead back we'd sought and I felt re-signing him as we did was the right move...

Was in favor of keeping him again, had his costs been the same with a raise for the adjustment for the cap inflation, but, alas, it is what it is...

Beastmode · 03-12-2019, 02:51 PM

Slight downgrade but great value. I do see him getting beat out by some unknown in camp.

RefsRobbedUs · 03-12-2019, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Slight downgrade but great value. I do see him getting beat out by some unknown in camp.

Really? Dang I would take this bet any day of the week. Some are underrating Murray; he is only a slight downgrade due to his passing game inefficiency. As a runner I don't think the Saints miss a beat.

03-12-2019, 01:18 PM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Originally Posted by turbo_dog I'm not a fan of this move. I realize Ingram probably wanted more money than he's worth, given his percentage of touches. Still, he was one of the best for the locker room chemistry. And Murray in no way will fill Ingram's shoes. Stats are virtually identical. Why over pay? RockyMountainSaint, ScottF, jeanpierre and 3 others like this.

03-12-2019, 01:23 PM	#12
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs Four-year, $14.4 million contract. Sold signing this obviously means Ingram is gone. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I like it. History aside, Ingram is a widget. Nonsense in overpaying for a cog. Goood luck Mark but we need a solid O line Originally Posted by K Major Saints probably just couldn't or willing to match a contract from other suitors. The financial folks probably gave MI a number and a deadline. Unfortunate we'll lose Mark but the NFL is a business. I wish Mark well wherever he lands though. He gave 100% on every down. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats are virtually identical. Why over pay? We overpaid to get Ingram in the beginning with the multiple draft picks. And he took his sweet time developing. So he owes us a hometown discount. His locker room presence has value, but not at an inflated price. If he does sign elsewhere, best of luck to him. ScottF and jeanpierre like this.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray It’s a huge gamble...I just hope it pays off. I don’t like the idea of messing with our core offensive players but I trust the staff to make the right decision. I just hope Murray can pick up the offense quickly and contribute immediately.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats are virtually identical. Why over pay? Also it will be Kamara show. Dude is too good to be just 3rd down back. You don't pay 7-8 mil per year for 2nd option at RB position. Can't blame Mark, you have to take the money in this situation. Overall Mark is better player than Murray but Murray excels in things we need the most with Kamara as lead back. That's power running between the tackles and 3&1, 4&1 situations.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Originally Posted by turbo_dog I'm not a fan of this move. I realize Ingram probably wanted more money than he's worth, given his percentage of touches. Still, he was one of the best for the locker room chemistry. And Murray in no way will fill Ingram's shoes. Need to separate the man from the myth -> Reality; he had a solid, unspectacular career and was paid well. If GB or someone else wants to give a 29yr old with 6000 career yards a 6 million dollar contract, so be it. We just got younger, bigger, cheaper RockyMountainSaint and mikesaintfan like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Taking the emotion out of it, I’m fine with Murray as our #2 RB and he’s coming cheap. Putting the emotion back into it... Don’t go Mark! I’m going to miss him so much. jnormand, shawnkytonk and Saint in Aus like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Slight downgrade but great value. I do see him getting beat out by some unknown in camp.
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RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Saints Sign Latavius Murray Originally Posted by Beastmode Slight downgrade but great value. I do see him getting beat out by some unknown in camp. Really? Dang I would take this bet any day of the week. Some are underrating Murray; he is only a slight downgrade due to his passing game inefficiency. As a runner I don't think the Saints miss a beat.
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