Brown, Brown, and Beasley

CHA_CHING · 03-12-2019, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Meredith. Bryant. Kirkwood. Smith. Thomas. Ginn

Guys we HAVE good wide receivers. Our issue was injuries.

Meredith has a history with injuries, something many of us were concerned about when he first signed.

Bryant is washed up and no one wanted him last year. We only signed him as an act of desperation. He was out of shape and immediately suffered a major injury after the signing. He's not the same player he was 5 years ago. There is a reason that Dallas didn't want him back despite being so thin at WR last year and there is a reason no other team wanted him 8 weeks into the season until coach SP realized how badly we needed WRs and went for him.

I don't remember Kirkwood making any impact at all last year.

Smith was a rookie last year and could make a big leap forward this year.

Ginn has speed, but was never a top receiver in all his career.

Last year's Saints had the worst WR corps of any Sean Payton team. They are the real reason we didn't reach the SB (bad non-call aside, I don't think we would've beat the Pats with our offensive struggles).

Outside of Michael Thomas, we didn't have a single other receiver to strike fear into teams. Dallas figured it out and showed the world the blueprint to stopping our offense - shut down Kamara and Thomas, and try to make Brees beat you with a cast of no-names. We didn't have a single game last year with the offense firing on all cylinders without Thomas or Kamara (or both) having monster production in those games. All our games where the offense was explosive, those two were the driving force. If it weren't for our defense stepping up and playing so well, we probably wouldn't have won another game after that nightmare in Dallas. The offense was not the same and it all comes down to not having enough weapons at WR to take the pressure off Thomas and give Brees another target to throw to. Brees stats tanked at the end of the year when the offense was exposed and they simply never got their groove back. Fixing the offense is top priority.

saintsfan1976 · 03-13-2019, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Meredith has a history with injuries, something many of us were concerned about when he first signed.

Bryant is washed up and no one wanted him last year. We only signed him as an act of desperation. He was out of shape and immediately suffered a major injury after the signing. He's not the same player he was 5 years ago. There is a reason that Dallas didn't want him back despite being so thin at WR last year and there is a reason no other team wanted him 8 weeks into the season until coach SP realized how badly we needed WRs and went for him.

I don't remember Kirkwood making any impact at all last year.

Smith was a rookie last year and could make a big leap forward this year.

Ginn has speed, but was never a top receiver in all his career.

Last year's Saints had the worst WR corps of any Sean Payton team. They are the real reason we didn't reach the SB (bad non-call aside, I don't think we would've beat the Pats with our offensive struggles).

Outside of Michael Thomas, we didn't have a single other receiver to strike fear into teams. Dallas figured it out and showed the world the blueprint to stopping our offense - shut down Kamara and Thomas, and try to make Brees beat you with a cast of no-names. We didn't have a single game last year with the offense firing on all cylinders without Thomas or Kamara (or both) having monster production in those games. All our games where the offense was explosive, those two were the driving force. If it weren't for our defense stepping up and playing so well, we probably wouldn't have won another game after that nightmare in Dallas. The offense was not the same and it all comes down to not having enough weapons at WR to take the pressure off Thomas and give Brees another target to throw to. Brees stats tanked at the end of the year when the offense was exposed and they simply never got their groove back. Fixing the offense is top priority.

Respectfully disagree with almost everything you stated. My point was injuries doomed us - Meredith, Bryant, Ginn, Dural. But we HAVE talent on the roster. Both Kirkwood and Smith should make the leap. Dez and Meredith will be in the mix. If everyone is healthy enough to be on the field we’ll have one of the better receiving rosters in the league.

Budsdrinker · 03-13-2019, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Respectfully disagree with almost everything you stated. My point was injuries doomed us - Meredith, Bryant, Ginn, Dural. But we HAVE talent on the roster. Both Kirkwood and Smith should make the leap. Dez and Meredith will be in the mix. If everyone is healthy enough to be on the field we’ll have one of the better receiving rosters in the league.

Agree, Kirkwood made some crucial catches last year and it was a shame he missed the NFCCG with a calf injury. Could have been the difference maker. Both he and Smith should be better this year.

03-12-2019, 08:27 PM	#1
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Brown, Brown, and Beasley Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Meredith. Bryant. Kirkwood. Smith. Thomas. Ginn Guys we HAVE good wide receivers. Our issue was injuries. Meredith has a history with injuries, something many of us were concerned about when he first signed. Bryant is washed up and no one wanted him last year. We only signed him as an act of desperation. He was out of shape and immediately suffered a major injury after the signing. He's not the same player he was 5 years ago. There is a reason that Dallas didn't want him back despite being so thin at WR last year and there is a reason no other team wanted him 8 weeks into the season until coach SP realized how badly we needed WRs and went for him. I don't remember Kirkwood making any impact at all last year. Smith was a rookie last year and could make a big leap forward this year. Ginn has speed, but was never a top receiver in all his career. Last year's Saints had the worst WR corps of any Sean Payton team. They are the real reason we didn't reach the SB (bad non-call aside, I don't think we would've beat the Pats with our offensive struggles). Outside of Michael Thomas, we didn't have a single other receiver to strike fear into teams. Dallas figured it out and showed the world the blueprint to stopping our offense - shut down Kamara and Thomas, and try to make Brees beat you with a cast of no-names. We didn't have a single game last year with the offense firing on all cylinders without Thomas or Kamara (or both) having monster production in those games. All our games where the offense was explosive, those two were the driving force. If it weren't for our defense stepping up and playing so well, we probably wouldn't have won another game after that nightmare in Dallas. The offense was not the same and it all comes down to not having enough weapons at WR to take the pressure off Thomas and give Brees another target to throw to. Brees stats tanked at the end of the year when the offense was exposed and they simply never got their groove back. Fixing the offense is top priority. Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-13-2019, 10:03 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brown, Brown, and Beasley Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Meredith has a history with injuries, something many of us were concerned about when he first signed. Bryant is washed up and no one wanted him last year. We only signed him as an act of desperation. He was out of shape and immediately suffered a major injury after the signing. He's not the same player he was 5 years ago. There is a reason that Dallas didn't want him back despite being so thin at WR last year and there is a reason no other team wanted him 8 weeks into the season until coach SP realized how badly we needed WRs and went for him. I don't remember Kirkwood making any impact at all last year. Smith was a rookie last year and could make a big leap forward this year. Ginn has speed, but was never a top receiver in all his career. Last year's Saints had the worst WR corps of any Sean Payton team. They are the real reason we didn't reach the SB (bad non-call aside, I don't think we would've beat the Pats with our offensive struggles). Outside of Michael Thomas, we didn't have a single other receiver to strike fear into teams. Dallas figured it out and showed the world the blueprint to stopping our offense - shut down Kamara and Thomas, and try to make Brees beat you with a cast of no-names. We didn't have a single game last year with the offense firing on all cylinders without Thomas or Kamara (or both) having monster production in those games. All our games where the offense was explosive, those two were the driving force. If it weren't for our defense stepping up and playing so well, we probably wouldn't have won another game after that nightmare in Dallas. The offense was not the same and it all comes down to not having enough weapons at WR to take the pressure off Thomas and give Brees another target to throw to. Brees stats tanked at the end of the year when the offense was exposed and they simply never got their groove back. Fixing the offense is top priority. Respectfully disagree with almost everything you stated. My point was injuries doomed us - Meredith, Bryant, Ginn, Dural. But we HAVE talent on the roster. Both Kirkwood and Smith should make the leap. Dez and Meredith will be in the mix. If everyone is healthy enough to be on the field we’ll have one of the better receiving rosters in the league. CheramieIII and Budsdrinker like this.

03-13-2019, 12:17 PM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Brown, Brown, and Beasley Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Respectfully disagree with almost everything you stated. My point was injuries doomed us - Meredith, Bryant, Ginn, Dural. But we HAVE talent on the roster. Both Kirkwood and Smith should make the leap. Dez and Meredith will be in the mix. If everyone is healthy enough to be on the field we’ll have one of the better receiving rosters in the league. Agree, Kirkwood made some crucial catches last year and it was a shame he missed the NFCCG with a calf injury. Could have been the difference maker. Both he and Smith should be better this year. saintsfan1976 likes this.