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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by CHA_CHING With all due respect to Ingram, he never lived up to the hype and potential from where he was drafted and the fact we had to trade for him. I wish him well, but I don't ...

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Old 03-29-2019, 02:45 PM   #1
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Re: Sean Payton was frustrated with how Mark Ingram’s departure unfolded

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING View Post
With all due respect to Ingram, he never lived up to the hype and potential from where he was drafted and the fact we had to trade for him.

I wish him well, but I don't think he'll be a huge loss. Kamara quickly outshined him and in both of our last playoff years, Kamara was the difference maker.
IMO, fans never forgave Ingram for getting stuffed on and 2-point conversion play on the road against the Packers in his rookie year; I personally don't blame him because every person watching knew that Ingram was going to get the ball.

And he fumbled against the seapigeons in a road playoff game, so that didn't help his resume either.
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Re: Sean Payton was frustrated with how Mark Ingram’s departure unfolded

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IMO, fans never forgave Ingram for getting stuffed on and 2-point conversion play on the road against the Packers in his rookie year; I personally don't blame him because every person watching knew that Ingram was going to get the ball.

And he fumbled against the seapigeons in a road playoff game, so that didn't help his resume either.
We lost that game to Green Bay in 2011 due to not having any defense. I can't blame that game solely on Ingram, cause we nearly gave up 50 points that night. Rodgers picked on Patrick Robinson that entire game, who was a weak link in the defense at the time. You could also blame special teams cause I remember Randall Cobb going off. That's back when the Packers were an actual scary team, back when Rodgers was at his peak as an elite QB and they had multiple weapons on offense (and yet still went one and done in the playoffs that year LOL).

Ingram was an inconsistent RB and fans had every right to feel disappointed in him considering where he was drafted in the first round and the fact we traded up for him. The Bears just traded Jordan Howard away whom in 3 years accomplished much more than Ingram. Ingram's best two seasons still aren't as good as Howard's rookie season. The Bears trading a good RB like that is proof that they are inter-changeable. People tend to put too much emphasis on RBs. Like I said in a previous post; I believe Walter Payton was the GOAT RB and yet the Bears only got a single SB ring out of him and it took a historical defense and an above average passing game for them to get there. On other sites, people like to throw Emmitt Smith in there, but he don't get his 3 rings either without Dallas' elite defenses, HoF QB and the other HoFer catching passes thrown by that QB to give them an elite offense.

I remember being so frustrated with Ingram cause one week, he would absolutely tear it up, usually against some garbage team. Then he would play mediocre the next week when your expectations are high.

It took him until 2016 to have a break out year and even then, he was frustrating that year too. The Seahawks game where he got benched for fumbling twice was a highlight. He had some of his best games against trash teams, but didn't quite come up in the big games where we needed him. Most of his best games in 2016 game against the crap teams we played (49ers, Rams, Cardinals, Bucs).

Another thing I remember was that it seemed that any time he had a fumble in a game, he'd follow it up with another fumble later on in the same game.

He did absolutely nothing in the 2017 playoffs and I bring this up because the 2017 offense relied almost entirely on a smashmouth style heavy rush attack (like the 2018 team, in 2017 we didn't have enough weapons on offense to engage in shootout games, so we relied on running the ball). It was Kamara having all the big plays against Minnesota, helping us come back into that game. I don't remember Ingram doing anything significant either in this past year's playoffs.

I don't think he's going to be a huge loss for us.
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