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SmashMouth 04-01-2019 10:45 AM

Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade
 

jeanpierre 04-01-2019 11:24 AM

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K Major 04-01-2019 11:43 AM

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Sorry but I don't agree with these PFF guys. They also said Davenport was not impactful (they compare a safety to a DE)in 2018. Marcus was coming into his own before the injury. IIRC, he had better PFF stats than all DE rookies and a lot of proven vets.

Dude was an exceptional run defender, setting the edge (Deuce has been preaching this for years up until Marcus arrived) & rushing the passer.

These guys are too involved with metrics, highlights and not watching actual games.

MD is a damn beast. I liked the pick then, and I still like it a year later. We could have a Cam Jordan/Julius Peppers type impact player on our hands for the next decade.

jeanpierre 04-01-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 841836)
Sorry but I don't agree with these PFF guys. They also said Davenport was not impactful (they compare a safety to a DE)in 2018. Marcus was coming into his own before the injury. IIRC, he had better PFF stats than all DE rookies and a lot of proven vets.

Dude was an exceptional run defender, setting the edge (Deuce has been preaching this for years up until Marcus arrived) & rushing the passer.

These guys are too involved with metrics, highlights and not watching actual games.

MD is a damn beast. I liked the pick then, and I still like it a year later. We could have a Cam Jordan/Julius Peppers type impact player on our hands for the next decade.

Actually, I've had the opportunity to discuss this with them and they and their very comprehensive staff do watch actual games, creating player grades play by play...

That said, I shared my criticism that their should be an opposition factor (i.e. Lattimore faces Julio Jones, Mike Evans vs Tre' White in the AFC East) reflected in their grades...

Rugby Saint II 04-01-2019 12:50 PM

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I'll say it again. Davenport will make us forget about the cost real soon!

K Major 04-01-2019 01:03 PM

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Just don't treat PFF as the gospel folks.

They actually praised (88.7 grade) All Pro Redskins Tackle Trent Williams vs Davenport who took his soul away for 4 quarters.

Remember Jeff Ireland was the mastermind behind drafting DeMarcus Ware from small town Troy. I think he hit it big again with Davenport.

Enjoy the ride.

Utah_Saint 04-01-2019 01:34 PM

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They’re talking about how the Saints could’ve drafted a CB with that pick instead but they didn’t mention that Crawley had a pretty good season in 2017 so the need wasn’t as apparent at the time.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Hopefully Davenport lives up to his physical potential this season.

Danno 04-01-2019 01:48 PM

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Too early for accurate analysis.

CheramieIII 04-01-2019 03:50 PM

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Davenport will be another Jordan for us. I called this trade and it was because he was the best in the draft and will be a great player for years to come.

dizzle88 04-01-2019 04:19 PM

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Cam Jordan had 1 sack in a full rookie season and developed into a monster

Davenport had 4 sacks in limited duty and showed strength at the point of attack.

Pretty sure he will develop fine when he's healthy.

foreverfan 04-01-2019 04:52 PM

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We didn't draft him because of need...

Thirty3 04-01-2019 04:52 PM

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Great athlete and no quit motor. Just needs to be healthy.

jeanpierre 04-02-2019 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 841861)
Great athlete and no quit motor. Just needs to be healthy.

That's kinda a big deal, no?

Crusader 04-02-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 841885)
That's kinda a big deal, no?

Doesn't have to be. An injury doesn't have to mean nothing.

jeanpierre 04-02-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 841908)
Doesn't have to be. An injury doesn't have to mean nothing.

I'd disagree. The ability to be available is a very big deal. Jairus Byrd was a highly regarded free agent safety - was he worth the money? Most fans would agree quickly that he wasn't...

Spending the draft capital of two first round picks in one player is comparable; and on a team where a head coach would be accountable, that HC better hope that player is available to justify it...

Davenport is a fine player, hopefully he's at full health this season; but he wasn't worth two first round AND one fifth round pick.

K Major 04-02-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 841912)

Davenport is a fine player, hopefully he's at full health this season; but he wasn't worth two first round AND one fifth round pick.

JP ... I'm only asking but any reason to continue listing what the Saints gave up to get Mr. Davenport :rolleyes:?

Just seems like a story that will never die.

AsylumGuido 04-02-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 841912)
I'd disagree. The ability to be available is a very big deal. Jairus Byrd was a highly regarded free agent safety - was he worth the money? Most fans would agree quickly that he wasn't...

Spending the draft capital of two first round picks in one player is comparable; and on a team where a head coach would be accountable, that HC better hope that player is available to justify it...

Davenport is a fine player, hopefully he's at full health this season; but he wasn't worth two first round AND one fifth round pick.

I am expecting him to be well worth that capital. And even if he doesn't in everyone's minds it is a done deal. What is past is past and no longer has any relevance as far as I am concerned.

AsylumGuido 04-02-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 841914)
JP ... I'm only asking but any reason to continue listing what the Saints gave up to get Mr. Davenport :rolleyes:?

Just seems like a story that will never die.

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jeanpierre 04-04-2019 06:01 PM

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vpheughan 04-04-2019 06:16 PM

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IT BEING:
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‎118–74 RECORD AND (.615) PERCENTAGE.
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