Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade

SmashMouth · 04-01-2019, 11:45 AM

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jeanpierre · 04-01-2019, 12:24 PM

K Major · 04-01-2019, 12:43 PM

Sorry but I don't agree with these PFF guys. They also said Davenport was not impactful (they compare a safety to a DE)in 2018. Marcus was coming into his own before the injury. IIRC, he had better PFF stats than all DE rookies and a lot of proven vets.

Dude was an exceptional run defender, setting the edge (Deuce has been preaching this for years up until Marcus arrived) & rushing the passer.

These guys are too involved with metrics, highlights and not watching actual games.

MD is a damn beast. I liked the pick then, and I still like it a year later. We could have a Cam Jordan/Julius Peppers type impact player on our hands for the next decade.

jeanpierre · 04-01-2019, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Sorry but I don't agree with these PFF guys. They also said Davenport was not impactful (they compare a safety to a DE)in 2018. Marcus was coming into his own before the injury. IIRC, he had better PFF stats than all DE rookies and a lot of proven vets.

Dude was an exceptional run defender, setting the edge (Deuce has been preaching this for years up until Marcus arrived) & rushing the passer.

These guys are too involved with metrics, highlights and not watching actual games.

MD is a damn beast. I liked the pick then, and I still like it a year later. We could have a Cam Jordan/Julius Peppers type impact player on our hands for the next decade.

Actually, I've had the opportunity to discuss this with them and they and their very comprehensive staff do watch actual games, creating player grades play by play...

That said, I shared my criticism that their should be an opposition factor (i.e. Lattimore faces Julio Jones, Mike Evans vs Tre' White in the AFC East) reflected in their grades...

Rugby Saint II · 04-01-2019, 01:50 PM

I'll say it again. Davenport will make us forget about the cost real soon!

K Major · 04-01-2019, 02:03 PM

Just don't treat PFF as the gospel folks.

They actually praised (88.7 grade) All Pro Redskins Tackle Trent Williams vs Davenport who took his soul away for 4 quarters.

Remember Jeff Ireland was the mastermind behind drafting DeMarcus Ware from small town Troy. I think he hit it big again with Davenport.

Enjoy the ride.

Utah_Saint · 04-01-2019, 02:34 PM

They’re talking about how the Saints could’ve drafted a CB with that pick instead but they didn’t mention that Crawley had a pretty good season in 2017 so the need wasn’t as apparent at the time.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Hopefully Davenport lives up to his physical potential this season.

Danno · 04-01-2019, 02:48 PM

Too early for accurate analysis.

CheramieIII · 04-01-2019, 04:50 PM

Davenport will be another Jordan for us. I called this trade and it was because he was the best in the draft and will be a great player for years to come.

dizzle88 · 04-01-2019, 05:19 PM

Cam Jordan had 1 sack in a full rookie season and developed into a monster

Davenport had 4 sacks in limited duty and showed strength at the point of attack.

Pretty sure he will develop fine when he's healthy.

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04-01-2019, 12:43 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade Sorry but I don't agree with these PFF guys. They also said Davenport was not impactful (they compare a safety to a DE)in 2018. Marcus was coming into his own before the injury. IIRC, he had better PFF stats than all DE rookies and a lot of proven vets. Dude was an exceptional run defender, setting the edge (Deuce has been preaching this for years up until Marcus arrived) & rushing the passer. These guys are too involved with metrics, highlights and not watching actual games. MD is a damn beast. I liked the pick then, and I still like it a year later. We could have a Cam Jordan/Julius Peppers type impact player on our hands for the next decade. Danno, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 4 others like this.
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04-01-2019, 01:36 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade Originally Posted by K Major Sorry but I don't agree with these PFF guys. They also said Davenport was not impactful (they compare a safety to a DE)in 2018. Marcus was coming into his own before the injury. IIRC, he had better PFF stats than all DE rookies and a lot of proven vets. Dude was an exceptional run defender, setting the edge (Deuce has been preaching this for years up until Marcus arrived) & rushing the passer. These guys are too involved with metrics, highlights and not watching actual games. MD is a damn beast. I liked the pick then, and I still like it a year later. We could have a Cam Jordan/Julius Peppers type impact player on our hands for the next decade. Actually, I've had the opportunity to discuss this with them and they and their very comprehensive staff do watch actual games, creating player grades play by play... That said, I shared my criticism that their should be an opposition factor (i.e. Lattimore faces Julio Jones, Mike Evans vs Tre' White in the AFC East) reflected in their grades...

04-01-2019, 01:50 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade I'll say it again. Davenport will make us forget about the cost real soon! Danno, SaintFanQ and shawnkytonk like this.

04-01-2019, 02:03 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade Just don't treat PFF as the gospel folks. They actually praised (88.7 grade) All Pro Redskins Tackle Trent Williams vs Davenport who took his soul away for 4 quarters. Remember Jeff Ireland was the mastermind behind drafting DeMarcus Ware from small town Troy. I think he hit it big again with Davenport. Enjoy the ride.

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04-01-2019, 02:34 PM	#7
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade They’re talking about how the Saints could’ve drafted a CB with that pick instead but they didn’t mention that Crawley had a pretty good season in 2017 so the need wasn’t as apparent at the time. Hindsight is 20/20. Hopefully Davenport lives up to his physical potential this season.

04-01-2019, 02:48 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade Too early for accurate analysis. foreverfan and jeanpierre like this.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade Davenport will be another Jordan for us. I called this trade and it was because he was the best in the draft and will be a great player for years to come. foreverfan and Rugby Saint II like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Revisiting the Marcus Davenport Trade Cam Jordan had 1 sack in a full rookie season and developed into a monster Davenport had 4 sacks in limited duty and showed strength at the point of attack. Pretty sure he will develop fine when he's healthy. CheramieIII and Rugby Saint II like this.

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