Hakim agrees to one-year deal

Euphoria · 06-20-2005, 11:23 AM

a PR/KR also has to be able to do other things to maintain a spot on the roster, he has been great but I see signs of him dropping off. Cutting him leaves a spot open for a WR to develop and also PR/KR.

WhoDat · 06-20-2005, 11:31 AM

You know, people didn't seem to mind when the Saints cut another old special teams ace two years ago either. His name was Fred McAfee. The team resigned him mid-year b/c special teams coverage units had gotten so bad. M. Lewis is the best return man on the team, and maybe the best (at least top 3) coverage guy the team has. I'll take him over Az "I Fumble More Than Sullivan Eats" Hakim anyday.

mayoj · 06-20-2005, 11:33 AM

I think if someone gets cut, it will be Gardner. He is the only one bringing nothing to the table (unless he has a good training camp, which probably won't happen). Everyone else in some way brings a piece:
Horn and Stallworth-no need
Lewis-returns, leadership, work ethic
Poole-hands, aggressiveness, experience
Devery-speed, potential, contract
Gardner-7th round pick that can't catch the ball and isn't that great on special teams

Maybe I'm missing Gardner's upside. Pounce if I am.

mvtrucking · 06-20-2005, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by daniel

If someone is cut, I think it will be the Beerman. I heard JH talk several times last year about ML not picking his feet up and being brought down by arm tackle. I think the coaches want someone who can hit the hole on punts and not be brought down by the first contact evertime. I like ML, I just think if someone goes it will be him for that one reason.

I would think that Gardner would get the ax before Beerman because, he has had problems catching the football since he has been with the Saints.It is also not even close when you factor in special teams. Beerman is possibly the best return man in football.IMO

AllSaints · 06-20-2005, 12:03 PM

gardner goes im not gunna be sad

lynwood · 06-20-2005, 12:12 PM

Lewis was ranked 5th last year in KR for the NFC and 11th for NFL. 4th in punt returns in NFL, 3rd in NFC. He may not take it to the house as much but our stating field posistion and yards he does gain are great. Check out the stats for yourself.

http://www.nfl.com/stats

tiggerpolice · 06-20-2005, 12:32 PM

Az Hakim signs with the Saints

Az-Zahir Hakim has finally found a place to call home (for the time being). After flipfloping on a decision to sign with the Chiefs, the veteran receiver has agreed to terms with the New Orleans Saints. Hakim was a rising star with the St. Louis Cardinals before spending a few disappointing and injury riddled seasons with the Detroit Lions.

The specifics of the deal should become available later today, but one thing is for certain; it will only be a one year contract. Az Hakim must prove himself before a team will consider signing him to a longterm deal.

The New Orleans Saints may prove to be nothing more than a transitional team for Hakim. They already have a Pro Bowl veteran in Joe Horn as well as two speedy and talented youngsters in Donte Stallworth and Devery Henderson. They have been actively looking for a veteren wideout to play the slot position until one of those youngsters matures enough to play that role.

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/a...eans200605.php

Danno · 06-20-2005, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by mayoj

Gardner-7th round pick that can't catch the ball and isn't that great on special teams

Maybe I'm missing Gardner's upside. Pounce if I am.

Actually, he's a very good ST'er. He's a gunner on Punt coverage and excels at it.

But I think its his last year in the league if he can't improve his WR skills.

DaRealAbdul · 06-20-2005, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by tiggerpolice

Az Hakim signs with the Saints

Az-Zahir Hakim has finally found a place to call home (for the time being). After flipfloping on a decision to sign with the Chiefs, the veteran receiver has agreed to terms with the New Orleans Saints. Hakim was a rising star with the St. Louis Cardinals before spending a few disappointing and injury riddled seasons with the Detroit Lions.

WTF?
He plays baseball?

AllSaints · 06-20-2005, 08:09 PM

I would rathre have Beerman returning punts and kick offs than Hakim Beerman stays

06-20-2005, 11:31 AM	#22
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	You know, people didn't seem to mind when the Saints cut another old special teams ace two years ago either. His name was Fred McAfee. The team resigned him mid-year b/c special teams coverage units had gotten so bad. M. Lewis is the best return man on the team, and maybe the best (at least top 3) coverage guy the team has. I'll take him over Az "I Fumble More Than Sullivan Eats" Hakim anyday.
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06-20-2005, 11:45 AM	#24
mvtrucking Registered Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 77	Originally Posted by daniel If someone is cut, I think it will be the Beerman. I heard JH talk several times last year about ML not picking his feet up and being brought down by arm tackle. I think the coaches want someone who can hit the hole on punts and not be brought down by the first contact evertime. I like ML, I just think if someone goes it will be him for that one reason. I would think that Gardner would get the ax before Beerman because, he has had problems catching the football since he has been with the Saints.It is also not even close when you factor in special teams. Beerman is possibly the best return man in football.IMO

06-20-2005, 12:32 PM	#27
tiggerpolice 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: new orleans Posts: 584	Az Hakim signs with the Saints Az Hakim signs with the Saints Az-Zahir Hakim has finally found a place to call home (for the time being). After flipfloping on a decision to sign with the Chiefs, the veteran receiver has agreed to terms with the New Orleans Saints. Hakim was a rising star with the St. Louis Cardinals before spending a few disappointing and injury riddled seasons with the Detroit Lions. The specifics of the deal should become available later today, but one thing is for certain; it will only be a one year contract. Az Hakim must prove himself before a team will consider signing him to a longterm deal. The New Orleans Saints may prove to be nothing more than a transitional team for Hakim. They already have a Pro Bowl veteran in Joe Horn as well as two speedy and talented youngsters in Donte Stallworth and Devery Henderson. They have been actively looking for a veteren wideout to play the slot position until one of those youngsters matures enough to play that role. http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/a...eans200605.php

06-20-2005, 02:03 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by mayoj Gardner-7th round pick that can't catch the ball and isn't that great on special teams Maybe I'm missing Gardner's upside. Pounce if I am. Actually, he's a very good ST'er. He's a gunner on Punt coverage and excels at it. But I think its his last year in the league if he can't improve his WR skills.

06-20-2005, 03:13 PM	#29
DaRealAbdul Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kenner Posts: 18	Re: Az Hakim signs with the Saints Originally Posted by tiggerpolice Az Hakim signs with the Saints Az-Zahir Hakim has finally found a place to call home (for the time being). After flipfloping on a decision to sign with the Chiefs, the veteran receiver has agreed to terms with the New Orleans Saints. Hakim was a rising star with the St. Louis Cardinals before spending a few disappointing and injury riddled seasons with the Detroit Lions. WTF? He plays baseball?

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06-20-2005, 11:33 AM	#23
mayoj 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 109	I think if someone gets cut, it will be Gardner. He is the only one bringing nothing to the table (unless he has a good training camp, which probably won't happen). Everyone else in some way brings a piece: Horn and Stallworth-no need Lewis-returns, leadership, work ethic Poole-hands, aggressiveness, experience Devery-speed, potential, contract Gardner-7th round pick that can't catch the ball and isn't that great on special teams Maybe I'm missing Gardner's upside. Pounce if I am.

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lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Lewis was ranked 5th last year in KR for the NFC and 11th for NFL. 4th in punt returns in NFL, 3rd in NFC. He may not take it to the house as much but our stating field posistion and yards he does gain are great. Check out the stats for yourself. http://www.nfl.com/stats

06-20-2005, 08:09 PM	#30
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	RE: Re: Az Hakim signs with the Saints I would rathre have Beerman returning punts and kick offs than Hakim Beerman stays