Greedy Williams

Rugby Saint II · 04-21-2019, 11:54 AM

Stand pat for BPA.

voodooido · 04-21-2019, 11:03 PM

I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end?

Crusader · 04-22-2019, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end?

Selfishness is the only logical thing when you reach the NFL level. I had the good fortune of playing with two former NFL players and a couple of NFL PS guys and they all said the exact thing. You need to put yourself first, look out for yourself, because nobody else will. As soon as there is someone that is as good as you but younger, you are out. Injury? You are out. New coaching staff? You might be out.

The only exception are the true superstars, the Drew Breeses and Von Millers in the league but they are very few and far in between.

K Major · 04-23-2019, 07:22 AM

Take a moment to read this if you haven't already done so on Mr. Williams.

https://expo.nola.com/sports/erry-20...s-skippin.html

Crusader · 04-23-2019, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Take a moment to read this if you haven't already done so on Mr. Williams.

https://expo.nola.com/sports/erry-20...s-skippin.html

Pretty good read. One thing in that article really irks me thou.

“If he gets hurt, he won’t be able to provide for his daughter,” Lakesha Williams said.

He went to a great school and should have a degree to his name. Even if injured he has every chance in the world of securing a decent job without crippling student loans, and live a completely different life than growing up.

rezburna · 04-23-2019, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Pretty good read. One thing in that article really irks me thou.

“If he gets hurt, he won’t be able to provide for his daughter,” Lakesha Williams said.

He went to a great school and should have a degree to his name. Even if injured he has every chance in the world of securing a decent job without crippling student loans, and live a completely different life than growing up.

A Bachelors Degree is no longer a golden key to a successful life and career. It hasn’t been for a long time. I have a Masters Degree and I’m barely getting by, and opportunities to use it aren’t exactly slapping me in the face. Also, not every student athlete is at school for an education, nor or all of them college material. Major universities accept students that they know aren’t capable of making it through on their own merit in exchange for their talent on a field, court, or diamond.

CheramieIII · 04-23-2019, 07:24 AM

We could potentially trade up with several teams in the 1st round but we would have to give our 1st next year and 2nd this year.

rezburna · 04-23-2019, 12:34 PM

Greedy isn’t a realistic option though. Patrick Peterson might hit the market soon though. I’d love that pickup.

papz · 04-24-2019, 10:52 AM

LSU 40 UCF 32

Get over it already LSU fans. It's easy to be overly critical of Greedy not playing when you aren't the one with anything on the line. We're talking about life changing money here. Just because playing was the right move for Devin White, doesn't make the right one for Greedy. He did what he thought was best for him and his family. Move on already.

With that said, I feel as if he had played, there would be a lot less chatter about him being a fringe first rounder. He would have cemented his position as the top corner prospect IMO. Or, he could have torn an ACL, got drafted in the middle rounds, lost millions, and millions more of dollars if he's never the same afterwards. I was perfectly fine with him being selfish for himself there. As other have mentioned, it would have been different if the game had any significant meaning.

If we had to have Greedy Williams to win that football game, then that football game wasn't ours to win.

burningmetal · 04-26-2019, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by papz

LSU 40 UCF 32

Get over it already LSU fans. It's easy to be overly critical of Greedy not playing when you aren't the one with anything on the line. We're talking about life changing money here. Just because playing was the right move for Devin White, doesn't make the right one for Greedy. He did what he thought was best for him and his family. Move on already.

With that said, I feel as if he had played, there would be a lot less chatter about him being a fringe first rounder. He would have cemented his position as the top corner prospect IMO. Or, he could have torn an ACL, got drafted in the middle rounds, lost millions, and millions more of dollars if he's never the same afterwards. I was perfectly fine with him being selfish for himself there. As other have mentioned, it would have been different if the game had any significant meaning.

If we had to have Greedy Williams to win that football game, then that football game wasn't ours to win.

I guess I must be considered old fashioned when it comes to my opinions on this.

When you say "If we had to have Greedy Williams to win that football game, then that football game wasn't ours to win", I take that same principal regarding the potential for injury in playing a game. I think that if you are afraid that your whole career and life is going to be ruined for not sitting out BECAUSE of fear of injury, then maybe this isn't the career for you. And if you play and get hurt, maybe it wasn't meant to be. Or maybe you get hurt like Willis McGahee, who completely tore up his knee, but still got drafted in the first round and had a solid career, making lots of money.

People say players make the university millions, but people aren't going to pay to watch a team that stinks, just to see a one player, generally speaking. It takes a good team. When you walk away from that team, it doesn't speak well of your perspective on life. It might be a game to us, but this is what they do. I believe that hard work and courage are always rewarded, even if the reward isn't what you expected.

People who have this mentality where money always comes first, are the same types who then hold out on their pro team, because they aren't happy just being multi millionaires, they want to make more than the other guy who just got paid.

Some teams are ok with that, and some aren't. But watch and see what happens with these players after they are drafted. Don't assume that being drafted highly and getting a big payday is the end of the story. I'm not saying these are all bad guys, and that they won't eventually do something to make it right. Everyone does things that they end up regretting once they've had time for reflection. so I'm not here to condemn any of them. It's simply that I disagree with their mentality.

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04-21-2019, 11:54 AM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Greedy Williams Stand pat for BPA.

04-21-2019, 11:03 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Greedy Williams I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end?
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04-22-2019, 04:17 AM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,045	Re: Greedy Williams Originally Posted by voodooido I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end? Selfishness is the only logical thing when you reach the NFL level. I had the good fortune of playing with two former NFL players and a couple of NFL PS guys and they all said the exact thing. You need to put yourself first, look out for yourself, because nobody else will. As soon as there is someone that is as good as you but younger, you are out. Injury? You are out. New coaching staff? You might be out. The only exception are the true superstars, the Drew Breeses and Von Millers in the league but they are very few and far in between.
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04-23-2019, 07:22 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Greedy Williams Take a moment to read this if you haven't already done so on Mr. Williams. https://expo.nola.com/sports/erry-20...s-skippin.html

04-23-2019, 08:52 AM	#5
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,045	Re: Greedy Williams Originally Posted by K Major Take a moment to read this if you haven't already done so on Mr. Williams. https://expo.nola.com/sports/erry-20...s-skippin.html Pretty good read. One thing in that article really irks me thou. “If he gets hurt, he won’t be able to provide for his daughter,” Lakesha Williams said. He went to a great school and should have a degree to his name. Even if injured he has every chance in the world of securing a decent job without crippling student loans, and live a completely different life than growing up. voodooido likes this.

04-23-2019, 12:22 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: Greedy Williams Originally Posted by Crusader Pretty good read. One thing in that article really irks me thou. “If he gets hurt, he won’t be able to provide for his daughter,” Lakesha Williams said. He went to a great school and should have a degree to his name. Even if injured he has every chance in the world of securing a decent job without crippling student loans, and live a completely different life than growing up. A Bachelors Degree is no longer a golden key to a successful life and career. It hasn’t been for a long time. I have a Masters Degree and I’m barely getting by, and opportunities to use it aren’t exactly slapping me in the face. Also, not every student athlete is at school for an education, nor or all of them college material. Major universities accept students that they know aren’t capable of making it through on their own merit in exchange for their talent on a field, court, or diamond. Rsanders24, papz, Crusader and 2 others like this.

04-23-2019, 07:24 AM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Greedy Williams We could potentially trade up with several teams in the 1st round but we would have to give our 1st next year and 2nd this year.

04-23-2019, 12:34 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: Greedy Williams Greedy isn’t a realistic option though. Patrick Peterson might hit the market soon though. I’d love that pickup.

04-24-2019, 10:52 AM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Greedy Williams LSU 40 UCF 32 Get over it already LSU fans. It's easy to be overly critical of Greedy not playing when you aren't the one with anything on the line. We're talking about life changing money here. Just because playing was the right move for Devin White, doesn't make the right one for Greedy. He did what he thought was best for him and his family. Move on already. With that said, I feel as if he had played, there would be a lot less chatter about him being a fringe first rounder. He would have cemented his position as the top corner prospect IMO. Or, he could have torn an ACL, got drafted in the middle rounds, lost millions, and millions more of dollars if he's never the same afterwards. I was perfectly fine with him being selfish for himself there. As other have mentioned, it would have been different if the game had any significant meaning. If we had to have Greedy Williams to win that football game, then that football game wasn't ours to win. Rsanders24 and rezburna like this.
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04-26-2019, 01:41 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Greedy Williams Originally Posted by papz LSU 40 UCF 32 Get over it already LSU fans. It's easy to be overly critical of Greedy not playing when you aren't the one with anything on the line. We're talking about life changing money here. Just because playing was the right move for Devin White, doesn't make the right one for Greedy. He did what he thought was best for him and his family. Move on already. With that said, I feel as if he had played, there would be a lot less chatter about him being a fringe first rounder. He would have cemented his position as the top corner prospect IMO. Or, he could have torn an ACL, got drafted in the middle rounds, lost millions, and millions more of dollars if he's never the same afterwards. I was perfectly fine with him being selfish for himself there. As other have mentioned, it would have been different if the game had any significant meaning. If we had to have Greedy Williams to win that football game, then that football game wasn't ours to win. I guess I must be considered old fashioned when it comes to my opinions on this. When you say "If we had to have Greedy Williams to win that football game, then that football game wasn't ours to win", I take that same principal regarding the potential for injury in playing a game. I think that if you are afraid that your whole career and life is going to be ruined for not sitting out BECAUSE of fear of injury, then maybe this isn't the career for you. And if you play and get hurt, maybe it wasn't meant to be. Or maybe you get hurt like Willis McGahee, who completely tore up his knee, but still got drafted in the first round and had a solid career, making lots of money. People say players make the university millions, but people aren't going to pay to watch a team that stinks, just to see a one player, generally speaking. It takes a good team. When you walk away from that team, it doesn't speak well of your perspective on life. It might be a game to us, but this is what they do. I believe that hard work and courage are always rewarded, even if the reward isn't what you expected. People who have this mentality where money always comes first, are the same types who then hold out on their pro team, because they aren't happy just being multi millionaires, they want to make more than the other guy who just got paid. Some teams are ok with that, and some aren't. But watch and see what happens with these players after they are drafted. Don't assume that being drafted highly and getting a big payday is the end of the story. I'm not saying these are all bad guys, and that they won't eventually do something to make it right. Everyone does things that they end up regretting once they've had time for reflection. so I'm not here to condemn any of them. It's simply that I disagree with their mentality.
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