Gandy refuses pay cut.

papz · 06-24-2005, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat

AB is not a bad QB, but he's not particularly good either. He has more talent than most other Saints QBs ever, but the Saints have a fairly sad history at that position. If he seems good to a Saints fan that is probably b/c most of us don't know what a good QB looks like.

My point is, AB has above average talent but is below average in terms of performance, assuming you measure performance as getting the most possible out of each attempt. Thus, all in all, AB ends up being very average in his time. Moreover, there are past Saints QBs who have had less talent that have done more. Everett, Hebert, and Manning are three for sure.

Very well put.

I think you should type in CAPS because I don't think anyone is seeing your point that Brooks in doing less with more. Text size 50, bright pink letters, and one word per line should do the trick.

saintswhodi · 06-25-2005, 10:13 PM

I think you should type in CAPS because I don't think anyone is seeing your point that Brooks in doing less with more. Text size 50, bright pink letters, and one word per line should do the trick.

Even then some of these guys wouldn't get it.

BlackandBlue · 07-08-2005, 02:28 PM

And Joe Horn was DFL in the entire NFL in YAC's. It probably would have been nice to have a WR who actually ran after he caught the ball wouldn't it?

Just rewatched the Saints vs. Bucs game from this past season, where the Saints won. I guess Horn could have more yards after the catch if he wasn't so busy pulling line drives out of the dirt or performing acrobatic moves in the air in order to catch the ball. But then, he's paid to play football, not baseball.

trimolo · 07-08-2005, 03:23 PM

I think all of the money issues with the Saints are front office blunders, they overpaid Gandy and should have kept Roaf...that Stincomb guy couldn't start on a highschool team...come on...Jay Bellamy 2 million a year...If we want the pplayers to honor contracts, make the team honor contracts.....Go T.O. they cut you if they want...hold out if you want..

CheramieIII · 07-09-2005, 01:41 PM

Even if we did ask him to take a pay cut and he refused, don't we have several people to take his place?

along · 07-09-2005, 02:18 PM

I say pay the Man what ever in his contract!!!

8)

WhoDat · 07-09-2005, 06:19 PM

Stinchcomb is the big if Big Cherm. If Stinch can finally play up to his potential and take the LT spot, Gandy could be let go. Key word: COULD. Bottom line: won't. He's one of Haslett's boys - a "quite leader" who Haslett wouldn't let go of, IMO.

milestonesoul · 07-10-2005, 02:01 AM

I find it funny that a guy who got knocked on for being to quite and softspoken a few years back, is now being knocked for speaking up for what he thinks is right.

06-24-2005, 07:39 PM	#61
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Originally Posted by WhoDat AB is not a bad QB, but he's not particularly good either. He has more talent than most other Saints QBs ever, but the Saints have a fairly sad history at that position. If he seems good to a Saints fan that is probably b/c most of us don't know what a good QB looks like. My point is, AB has above average talent but is below average in terms of performance, assuming you measure performance as getting the most possible out of each attempt. Thus, all in all, AB ends up being very average in his time. Moreover, there are past Saints QBs who have had less talent that have done more. Everett, Hebert, and Manning are three for sure. Very well put. I think you should type in CAPS because I don't think anyone is seeing your point that Brooks in doing less with more. Text size 50, bright pink letters, and one word per line should do the trick.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I think you should type in CAPS because I don't think anyone is seeing your point that Brooks in doing less with more. Text size 50, bright pink letters, and one word per line should do the trick. Even then some of these guys wouldn't get it.

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BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	And Joe Horn was DFL in the entire NFL in YAC's. It probably would have been nice to have a WR who actually ran after he caught the ball wouldn't it? Just rewatched the Saints vs. Bucs game from this past season, where the Saints won. I guess Horn could have more yards after the catch if he wasn't so busy pulling line drives out of the dirt or performing acrobatic moves in the air in order to catch the ball. But then, he's paid to play football, not baseball.

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trimolo Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 16	I think all of the money issues with the Saints are front office blunders, they overpaid Gandy and should have kept Roaf...that Stincomb guy couldn't start on a highschool team...come on...Jay Bellamy 2 million a year...If we want the pplayers to honor contracts, make the team honor contracts.....Go T.O. they cut you if they want...hold out if you want..

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Even if we did ask him to take a pay cut and he refused, don't we have several people to take his place?