USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp

AsylumGuido · 06-12-2019, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I’ve learned over the years to not even worry about the offensive line.
Every year I’m concerned but somehow we manage to put together a top tier offensive line. The coaches seem to always get them to play cohesively even when they bring in guys from elsewhere. That’s hard to do. Most teams try to keep the same personnel intact.

I applaud your well reasoned positive attitude, my friend. You have promise.

The Dude · 06-12-2019, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I applaud your well reasoned positive attitude, my friend. You have promise.

Well it’s just their track record. No reason to believe it will be any different this year. Same type of reasoning tells me there is no reason to believe Armstead will play more than about 8 games, given his track record and all.

saintsfan1976 · 06-12-2019, 10:00 PM

Easton is our Kelemete

The Dude · 06-13-2019, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Easton is our Kelemete

I wish Kelemente was our Kelemente

Rugby Saint II · 06-13-2019, 12:06 PM

We play well on the O-line because we have good coaching.....and a bunch of 1st round drat picks. We are seeing the benefits from investing heavily in the trenches.

K Major · 06-13-2019, 12:47 PM

Anyone remember how dominant Arkansas center Frank Ragnow was in college? He played exclusively at left guard as a rookie for Detroit in 2018.

It will interesting to see how quickly Erik transitions from college to Pros and if he's able to start and beat out Nick by the start of the season.

Our first regular season game is against the Texans. That defense and those pass rushers will test his will ... quickly.

AsylumGuido · 06-13-2019, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Anyone remember how dominant Arkansas center Frank Ragnow was in college? He played exclusively at left guard as a rookie for Detroit in 2018.

It will interesting to see how quickly Erik transitions from college to Pros and if he's able to start and beat out Nick by the start of the season.

Our first regular season game is against the Texans. That defense and those pass rushers will test his will ... quickly.

I don't remember the exact numbers, but something crazy like 21 of the last 22 centers drafted in the first two rounds started in their first year. I fully expect McCoy to be starting day one.

vpheughan · 06-13-2019, 02:29 PM

Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts.

AsylumGuido · 06-13-2019, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts.

Thanks! I knew it was divisible by seven somehow.

But, yes, that pretty much implies that if you draft a center very early it is because he is going to be a starter.

K Major · 06-13-2019, 04:45 PM

RB, Nickle back (Chauncey G), WR's, TE and C battles galore.

Can't wait for camp.

06-12-2019, 06:19 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp Originally Posted by The Dude I’ve learned over the years to not even worry about the offensive line. Every year I’m concerned but somehow we manage to put together a top tier offensive line. The coaches seem to always get them to play cohesively even when they bring in guys from elsewhere. That’s hard to do. Most teams try to keep the same personnel intact. I applaud your well reasoned positive attitude, my friend. You have promise. jeanpierre likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I applaud your well reasoned positive attitude, my friend. You have promise. Well it’s just their track record. No reason to believe it will be any different this year. Same type of reasoning tells me there is no reason to believe Armstead will play more than about 8 games, given his track record and all. jnormand and jeanpierre like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp Anyone remember how dominant Arkansas center Frank Ragnow was in college? He played exclusively at left guard as a rookie for Detroit in 2018. It will interesting to see how quickly Erik transitions from college to Pros and if he's able to start and beat out Nick by the start of the season. Our first regular season game is against the Texans. That defense and those pass rushers will test his will ... quickly.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp Originally Posted by K Major Anyone remember how dominant Arkansas center Frank Ragnow was in college? He played exclusively at left guard as a rookie for Detroit in 2018. It will interesting to see how quickly Erik transitions from college to Pros and if he's able to start and beat out Nick by the start of the season. Our first regular season game is against the Texans. That defense and those pass rushers will test his will ... quickly. I don't remember the exact numbers, but something crazy like 21 of the last 22 centers drafted in the first two rounds started in their first year. I fully expect McCoy to be starting day one. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp Originally Posted by vpheughan Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts. Thanks! I knew it was divisible by seven somehow. But, yes, that pretty much implies that if you draft a center very early it is because he is going to be a starter.

06-13-2019, 04:45 PM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Rookie center Erik McCoy getting first-team reps in minicamp RB, Nickle back (Chauncey G), WR's, TE and C battles galore. Can't wait for camp.