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JKool · 07-05-2005, 12:30 AM

An interesting suggestion BonB. I guess I'd like to see him make it through to a regular season game first.

Whodi, I'm from the Commonwealth, so you'll have to forgive my spelling... <smile>

saintswhodi · 07-05-2005, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by JKool

An interesting suggestion BonB. I guess I'd like to see him make it through to a regular season game first.

Whodi, I'm from the Commonwealth, so you'll have to forgive my spelling... <smile>

Just a little payback from that "no one" correction you gave me a while back Kool. Someone else took it to heart.

papz · 07-05-2005, 01:34 AM

In actuality, Cie Grant belongs at the SS position. But with Bullocks, Smith, Bellamy, and Gleason... there would be no point putting him back at that position. I don't know of many teams that would carry 5 safeties. If we move him there, we might as well cut him.

TheDeuce · 07-05-2005, 03:27 AM

I hope Bullocks gets a legitimate chance at the SS spot this year, he just seems to be a real exciting big-play kind of guy.

I guess I'd like to see him make it through to a regular season game first.

Good point JKool. If this guy could just keep healthy, then I'm sure we could discuss where he might be best suited to play.

JKool · 07-06-2005, 12:29 PM

Whodi... nice.

TheDuece, we are in agreement. Which position he should play only matters if he actually plays.

There was a lot of hype about this kid at MLB. Someone, perhaps Danno, knows if he's put on weight, muscle, etc. He may have transformed himself into an LB and no longer be a SS, in between being injured, of course.

4saintspirit · 07-06-2005, 12:43 PM

If Bullocks is that good I would not mind seeing Smith play a little corner here and there -- he played it before -- and actually wants to return to the corner -- Teaming him up with McKenzie would do a lot for our defense -- but I agree with everyone else -- unless it makes our backfield much better why chance it

saintswhodi · 07-06-2005, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by 4saintspirit

If Bullocks is that good I would not mind seeing Smith play a little corner here and there -- he played it before -- and actually wants to return to the corner -- Teaming him up with McKenzie would do a lot for our defense -- but I agree with everyone else -- unless it makes our backfield much better why chance it

Where smith as a CB comes into play the most is the corner blitz. We will be able to utilize a corner blitz much more often with Smith's ability to cover WRs, TEs, and RBs. Usually IF a QB even sees the corner blitz, he hot reads to the man left open by the blitzing corner. If you don't have an athletic safety, this short pattern can go for long gains. But we don't have that fear, hopefully, with Smith. Or Bullocks. We could not utilize this as much as I am sure the team wanted to with Bellamy in the secondary with hsi walker and Tesucky simply not being smart enough to avoid a penalty or being out of position. This is one of the most exciting changes I am hoping to see in our defense. Corner blitz baby, even in the nickel.

JKool · 07-06-2005, 01:46 PM

Whodi, we are having quite a day! I agree again!

The blitz is one of those places where the speed of our Safeties is critical. Also, playing left-right (instead of free-strong) will aid in that endeavor.

Smith at FS. If Bullocks is THAT good, then he plays on passing downs for Bellamy. We can do fine with Brown (does anyone know his status?) and McKenzie out there at CB.

07-05-2005, 12:32 AM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by JKool An interesting suggestion BonB. I guess I'd like to see him make it through to a regular season game first. Whodi, I'm from the Commonwealth, so you'll have to forgive my spelling... <smile> Just a little payback from that "no one" correction you gave me a while back Kool. Someone else took it to heart.

07-05-2005, 03:27 AM	#14
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	I hope Bullocks gets a legitimate chance at the SS spot this year, he just seems to be a real exciting big-play kind of guy. I guess I'd like to see him make it through to a regular season game first. Good point JKool. If this guy could just keep healthy, then I'm sure we could discuss where he might be best suited to play.
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07-06-2005, 12:51 PM	#17
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by 4saintspirit If Bullocks is that good I would not mind seeing Smith play a little corner here and there -- he played it before -- and actually wants to return to the corner -- Teaming him up with McKenzie would do a lot for our defense -- but I agree with everyone else -- unless it makes our backfield much better why chance it Where smith as a CB comes into play the most is the corner blitz. We will be able to utilize a corner blitz much more often with Smith's ability to cover WRs, TEs, and RBs. Usually IF a QB even sees the corner blitz, he hot reads to the man left open by the blitzing corner. If you don't have an athletic safety, this short pattern can go for long gains. But we don't have that fear, hopefully, with Smith. Or Bullocks. We could not utilize this as much as I am sure the team wanted to with Bellamy in the secondary with hsi walker and Tesucky simply not being smart enough to avoid a penalty or being out of position. This is one of the most exciting changes I am hoping to see in our defense. Corner blitz baby, even in the nickel.

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JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	An interesting suggestion BonB. I guess I'd like to see him make it through to a regular season game first. Whodi, I'm from the Commonwealth, so you'll have to forgive my spelling... <smile>

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07-05-2005, 01:34 AM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	In actuality, Cie Grant belongs at the SS position. But with Bullocks, Smith, Bellamy, and Gleason... there would be no point putting him back at that position. I don't know of many teams that would carry 5 safeties. If we move him there, we might as well cut him.

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JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Whodi... nice. TheDuece, we are in agreement. Which position he should play only matters if he actually plays. There was a lot of hype about this kid at MLB. Someone, perhaps Danno, knows if he's put on weight, muscle, etc. He may have transformed himself into an LB and no longer be a SS, in between being injured, of course.

07-06-2005, 01:46 PM	#18
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Whodi, we are having quite a day! I agree again! The blitz is one of those places where the speed of our Safeties is critical. Also, playing left-right (instead of free-strong) will aid in that endeavor. Smith at FS. If Bullocks is THAT good, then he plays on passing downs for Bellamy. We can do fine with Brown (does anyone know his status?) and McKenzie out there at CB.