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Beastmode 07-25-2019 11:40 AM

Re: Running game
 
RB's are not QB's. Short shelf life. I'm not even making a prediction. The odds that Murray will have limited playing time as the season progresses is very high due to age. If Kamara and the rookie RB's remain healthy and produce he will be phased out.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2019 12:01 PM

Re: Running game
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 848567)
RB's are not QB's. Short shelf life. I'm not even making a prediction. The odds that Murray will have limited playing time as the season progresses is very high due to age. If Kamara and the rookie RB's remain healthy and produce he will be phased out.

And where are you getting these "odds" that are "very high"? And from where are you pulling these facts that he will be "phased out"? They must both be coming from the same location. And I would think that Payton and Loomis would have access to these "very high odds" of yours. Perhaps your "wiseguys" run in different circles than theirs. I guess it was pretty damned stupid of them the sign Murray to a $14.4M contract with $7.2M guaranteed if they had known what you claim to know.

That said, my "very high odds" tell me that Murray will get pretty much the same number of touches that Ingram had been receiving while Kamara continues to share the load.

Oh, and short shelf lives go hand in hand with wear and tear. Most 30 year old RB's have played eight or more seasons. Murray is 29 and has only played FIVE seasons and has shared the load throughout. Apples and oranges.

Beastmode 07-25-2019 01:19 PM

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The stats come from every stat analysis on NFL RB's and production by age. If you believe he's going to be a great addition that's fine. Nothing wrong with having a different opinion but my opinion is based off of stats on what happens when RB's hit 29 plus years of age. Top that off with he has rushed for 1,000 yards one time in his career. He never was a great RB even in his prime.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 848594)
The stats come from every stat analysis on NFL RB's and production by age. If you believe he's going to be a great addition that's fine. Nothing wrong with having a different opinion but my opinion is based off of stats on what happens when RB's hit 29 plus years of age. Top that off with he has rushed for 1,000 yards one time in his career. He never was a great RB even in his prime.

That's the point. He's just hitting his prime. Longevity is based upon wear and tear, not simply age. You are so hung up on the fact that he's 29 that you are ignoring the fact that most 29 year old NFL RB's have carried the ball twice as many times. He sat out his first full year after college. And he's always been in a shared backfield, just like Ingram.

K Major 07-25-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 848567)
RB's are not QB's. Short shelf life. I'm not even making a prediction. The odds that Murray will have limited playing time as the season progresses is very high due to age. If Kamara and the rookie RB's remain healthy and produce he will be phased out.

I've book marked this page.

Enjoy training camp :bng:

Beastmode 07-25-2019 03:03 PM

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I bookmarked all the ones on Meredith but it's pointless. I was right on that one but the "he's not well yet" timeout was called. The same will happen. An excuse will be made for Murray if he fails to deliver....meh. I will also eat crow if he does well unlike others regarding Meredith. I feel confident however because his age and stats on RB's close to 30 as it gets are on my side to the point it's damn near laughable he's going to do well.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2019 03:15 PM

Re: Running game
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 848603)
I bookmarked all the ones on Meredith but it's pointless. I was right on that one but the "he's not well yet" timeout was called. The same will happen. An excuse will be made for Murray if he fails to deliver....meh. I will also eat crow if he does well unlike others regarding Meredith. I feel confident however because his age and stats on RB's close to 30 as it gets are on my side to the point it's damn near laughable he's going to do well.

It is amazing that you know so much more about player evaluation than the so called professionals. You could have saved the Saints $7.2 million in fully guaranteed money if they would have only had your cell number.

And by the way, Meredith put up very good numbers when he was able to hit the field. You basically said he would suck even if healthy.

rezburna 07-25-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 848472)
And no, I'm not worried about the run game.

Folks are simply sleeping on Latavius Murray.

This.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 848605)
This.

^
This.

The Dude 07-25-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 848523)
Did you mean game 4 against the Giants? When he had 134 yards rushing on 19 carries for over 7 yards per attempt and 3 touchdowns?

I wasn’t aware we played 4 consecutive games against the Giants?


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