And so it begins...

ChrisXVI · 07-26-2019, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...76062041214978

From what I’ve seen he has incredible hands. I like him. Herbie does too...

jeanpierre · 07-26-2019, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

The guy is a beast but he (Mike Thomas) is not worth being the highest paid wr. Trade him now and let brees turn these other wr’s into studs. Do I want to keep MT? Absolutely, but he is not worth 20 mil a year

I'm nervous about committing so much salary cap to one player, but @CantGuardMike was the among the best WRs in the league last season...

He ranked thusly among WRs:

REC (1st)

ReYD (6th)

ReTD (10th)

Re% (1st)

ReYd/Gm (8th)

Should he be paid as the best WR in the game, , it's not conclusive, but there's strong evidence (e.g. Receptions, Hands) that he is...

K Major · 07-26-2019, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

The guy is a beast but he is not worth being the highest paid wr. Trade him now and let brees turn these other wr’s into studs. Do I want to keep MT? Absolutely, but he is not worth 20 mil a year

Complete

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Anyone that believes Michael Thomas is a product of Brees hasn't watched games closely enough or understand football. Easily a top 3 WR in the league as a route runner and creating separation.

Those "let Brees turn these other WR"s into studs" days are long gone (see week 13 of 2018 and beyond).

Originally the number was 22M & the Saints brass offer was 18M. 20M is fair in today's market.

AsylumGuido · 07-26-2019, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Complete .

Anyone that believes Michael Thomas is a product of Brees hasn't watched games closely enough or understand football. Easily a top 3 WR in the league as a route runner and creating separation.

Those "let Brees turn these other WR"s into studs" days are long gone (see week 13 of 2018 and beyond).

Originally the number was 22M & the Saints brass offer was 18M. 20M is fair in today's market.

Agreed. But more importantly, the average amount per year is meaningless. What is important is the guaranteed amount and how soon it is realized. The Saints can give him a four year $100M deal with $40M guaranteed in the first two years that is actually worth less than a four year $80M deal with $50M guaranteed over the first three years.

CHA_CHING · 07-26-2019, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'm nervous about committing so much salary cap to one player, but @CantGuardMike was the among the best WRs in the league last season...

He ranked thusly among WRs:

REC (1st)

ReYD (6th)

ReTD (10th)

Re% (1st)

ReYd/Gm (8th)

Should he be paid as the best WR in the game, , it's not conclusive, but there's strong evidence (e.g. Receptions, Hands) that he is...

If we go by PFR's rankings, MT was the best receiver last year with an AV ranking of 18. Also tied with Drew for the highest AV ranking on our team.

He was hands down the best receiver in the league last year and he caught around 60% of Brees' passes.

K Major · 07-26-2019, 02:37 PM

Cyril Grayson...

If he can somehow translate that track speed to football speed, he'd could do wonders on special teams/punt returns.

jeanpierre · 07-26-2019, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

If we go by PFR's rankings, MT was the best receiver last year with an AV ranking of 18. Also tied with Drew for the highest AV ranking on our team.

He was hands down the best receiver in the league last year and he caught around 60% of Brees' passes.

Per Pro Football Reference, it was 83%...83%...

jeanpierre · 07-26-2019, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Good. We could really use a guy like Kirkwood taking that next step this season.

Not really surprised by this news as Mike Thomas often shifted to the slot on third downs or in the red zone and Kirkwood was used for his size on the outside at the X-receiver spot...

Saw it his senior year film and his rookie year, amazing hands, catch radius...

ChrisXVI likes this.

FinSaint · 07-27-2019, 01:18 AM

I hope Cobbs is back to 100% and can really show the staff what he has to offer.

jeanpierre · 07-27-2019, 09:39 AM

07-26-2019, 10:47 AM	#41
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: And so it begins... Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...76062041214978 From what I’ve seen he has incredible hands. I like him. Herbie does too... Twitter

07-26-2019, 10:54 AM	#42
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: And so it begins... Originally Posted by voodooido The guy is a beast but he (Mike Thomas) is not worth being the highest paid wr. Trade him now and let brees turn these other wr’s into studs. Do I want to keep MT? Absolutely, but he is not worth 20 mil a year I'm nervous about committing so much salary cap to one player, but @CantGuardMike was the among the best WRs in the league last season... He ranked thusly among WRs: REC (1st) ReYD (6th) ReTD (10th) Re% (1st) ReYd/Gm (8th) Should he be paid as the best WR in the game, , it's not conclusive, but there's strong evidence (e.g. Receptions, Hands) that he is... SmashMouth and CHA_CHING like this.

07-26-2019, 11:07 AM	#43
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: And so it begins... Originally Posted by voodooido The guy is a beast but he is not worth being the highest paid wr. Trade him now and let brees turn these other wr’s into studs. Do I want to keep MT? Absolutely, but he is not worth 20 mil a year Complete . Anyone that believes Michael Thomas is a product of Brees hasn't watched games closely enough or understand football. Easily a top 3 WR in the league as a route runner and creating separation. Those "let Brees turn these other WR"s into studs" days are long gone (see week 13 of 2018 and beyond). Originally the number was 22M & the Saints brass offer was 18M. 20M is fair in today's market. AsylumGuido likes this.

07-26-2019, 11:58 AM	#44
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: And so it begins... Originally Posted by K Major Complete . Anyone that believes Michael Thomas is a product of Brees hasn't watched games closely enough or understand football. Easily a top 3 WR in the league as a route runner and creating separation. Those "let Brees turn these other WR"s into studs" days are long gone (see week 13 of 2018 and beyond). Originally the number was 22M & the Saints brass offer was 18M. 20M is fair in today's market. Agreed. But more importantly, the average amount per year is meaningless. What is important is the guaranteed amount and how soon it is realized. The Saints can give him a four year $100M deal with $40M guaranteed in the first two years that is actually worth less than a four year $80M deal with $50M guaranteed over the first three years.

07-26-2019, 01:50 PM	#45
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: And so it begins... Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'm nervous about committing so much salary cap to one player, but @CantGuardMike was the among the best WRs in the league last season... He ranked thusly among WRs: REC (1st) ReYD (6th) ReTD (10th) Re% (1st) ReYd/Gm (8th) Should he be paid as the best WR in the game, , it's not conclusive, but there's strong evidence (e.g. Receptions, Hands) that he is... If we go by PFR's rankings, MT was the best receiver last year with an AV ranking of 18. Also tied with Drew for the highest AV ranking on our team. He was hands down the best receiver in the league last year and he caught around 60% of Brees' passes.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: And so it begins... Cyril Grayson... If he can somehow translate that track speed to football speed, he'd could do wonders on special teams/punt returns.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: And so it begins... Originally Posted by CHA_CHING If we go by PFR's rankings, MT was the best receiver last year with an AV ranking of 18. Also tied with Drew for the highest AV ranking on our team. He was hands down the best receiver in the league last year and he caught around 60% of Brees' passes. Per Pro Football Reference, it was 83%...83%...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: And so it begins... Twitter Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Good. We could really use a guy like Kirkwood taking that next step this season. Not really surprised by this news as Mike Thomas often shifted to the slot on third downs or in the red zone and Kirkwood was used for his size on the outside at the X-receiver spot... Saw it his senior year film and his rookie year, amazing hands, catch radius... ChrisXVI likes this.

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