Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out

jeanpierre · 07-26-2019, 07:39 PM

foreverfan · 07-26-2019, 09:06 PM

Who cares... He does he really need to start sweating yet? Let him have a couple of weeks off.

ChrisXVI · 07-26-2019, 09:26 PM

Nice info there about Emmanuel Butler and Rishard Matthews. It makes me start to think... I’ve heard really good stuff about Butler, Matthews and Simmie Cobbs, but a real lack of Tre’Quan Smith updates through the offseason work so far.

The Dude · 07-26-2019, 09:36 PM

I was thinking earlier that the plus side of Thomas holding out is it gives the coaches time to do some much needed talent evaluation at WR. Hope these players take advantage of the opportunity.
Looks like we may be better off at WR than most people gave us credit for.

You never know what’s going on behind the scenes. Part of this could be Mrs Benson posturing. She brand new FEMALE owner in a mans league dealing with her first major contract. It’s a chance for her to show the rest of the league, owners, coaches and players that she refuses to be a pushover.
This deal is going to help define her as an owner. It may not even be about the money. It’s not a knock on Mrs Benson, I think it would be a wise move for her as a business owner to play it that way. I would. Thomas isn’t going anywhere, they all know that.

Barry from MS · 07-27-2019, 09:33 AM

Cobbs looked good yesterday. Me & my brother said his name a few times. Matthews, too, but wearing Colston's old number irritates me.

CGJ looks every bit as talented as advertised, too. His athleticism stood out yesterday. During drills he made everything look effortless...and he is fast.

AsylumGuido · 07-27-2019, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I was thinking earlier that the plus side of Thomas holding out is it gives the coaches time to do some much needed talent evaluation at WR. Hope these players take advantage of the opportunity.
Looks like we may be better off at WR than most people gave us credit for.

You never know what’s going on behind the scenes. Part of this could be Mrs Benson posturing. She brand new FEMALE owner in a mans league dealing with her first major contract. It’s a chance for her to show the rest of the league, owners, coaches and players that she refuses to be a pushover.
This deal is going to help define her as an owner. It may not even be about the money. It’s not a knock on Mrs Benson, I think it would be a wise move for her as a business owner to play it that way. I would. Thomas isn’t going anywhere, they all know that.

I seriously doubt that Gayle is impacting the deal making at all. And not because she's a female owner. I also doubt Tom was very much involved in that area. They both trust(ed) Loomis and Payton to the Nth degree and let them drive the train.

K Major · 07-27-2019, 12:45 PM

I know it's only Day 2 without full gear but media/coaches have mentioned the names of Cobbs and Emmanuel Butler more than others. One of these guys could help us move the chains and win games in 2019.

Keep an eye on these two for sure.

07-26-2019, 07:39 PM	#1
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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out Who cares... He does he really need to start sweating yet? Let him have a couple of weeks off.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out Nice info there about Emmanuel Butler and Rishard Matthews. It makes me start to think... I’ve heard really good stuff about Butler, Matthews and Simmie Cobbs, but a real lack of Tre’Quan Smith updates through the offseason work so far. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out I was thinking earlier that the plus side of Thomas holding out is it gives the coaches time to do some much needed talent evaluation at WR. Hope these players take advantage of the opportunity. Looks like we may be better off at WR than most people gave us credit for. You never know what’s going on behind the scenes. Part of this could be Mrs Benson posturing. She brand new FEMALE owner in a mans league dealing with her first major contract. It’s a chance for her to show the rest of the league, owners, coaches and players that she refuses to be a pushover. This deal is going to help define her as an owner. It may not even be about the money. It’s not a knock on Mrs Benson, I think it would be a wise move for her as a business owner to play it that way. I would. Thomas isn’t going anywhere, they all know that. jeanpierre likes this.
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07-27-2019, 09:33 AM	#5
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out Cobbs looked good yesterday. Me & my brother said his name a few times. Matthews, too, but wearing Colston's old number irritates me. CGJ looks every bit as talented as advertised, too. His athleticism stood out yesterday. During drills he made everything look effortless...and he is fast. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out Originally Posted by The Dude I was thinking earlier that the plus side of Thomas holding out is it gives the coaches time to do some much needed talent evaluation at WR. Hope these players take advantage of the opportunity. Looks like we may be better off at WR than most people gave us credit for. You never know what’s going on behind the scenes. Part of this could be Mrs Benson posturing. She brand new FEMALE owner in a mans league dealing with her first major contract. It’s a chance for her to show the rest of the league, owners, coaches and players that she refuses to be a pushover. This deal is going to help define her as an owner. It may not even be about the money. It’s not a knock on Mrs Benson, I think it would be a wise move for her as a business owner to play it that way. I would. Thomas isn’t going anywhere, they all know that. I seriously doubt that Gayle is impacting the deal making at all. And not because she's a female owner. I also doubt Tom was very much involved in that area. They both trust(ed) Loomis and Payton to the Nth degree and let them drive the train.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Barry Hirstius: Saints 2019 Training Camp: Day 1 Observations and a Few Thoughts on the Micheal Thomas Hold-Out I know it's only Day 2 without full gear but media/coaches have mentioned the names of Cobbs and Emmanuel Butler more than others. One of these guys could help us move the chains and win games in 2019. Keep an eye on these two for sure. SaintFanQ and Rugby Saint II like this.

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