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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...55991554150400 I think we all saw this coming....

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Old 07-29-2019, 09:35 PM   #31
 
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:54 PM   #32
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Trade Thomas. Frame it as it is. They tried to make him the highest paid WR in the league and he refused. They can't completely blow up their cap for one guy. Kamara, Lattimore, Ramczyk, Peat and Apple are all soon to be looking for new deals. Thomas deserves to get paid. But, without Brees he's just very good. Of course. it won't happen. They won't mess with team chemistry and do something that might hinder this season in the ever so quickly devolving window that is Bree's career. I get it. I understand it. But, in three years this team is not going to be fun to watch.
This is one of the reasons why players hold out. What exactly does "blow up their cap" mean? What percentage of the cap for each year of the contract constitutes "blown up".

The only blowing up of the cap in the NFL has been the cap value itself. $120 million in 2011. $188 million now. Growing by more than $10 million a year for the last 4 years.

We should all know by now that NFL contracts are not worth the paper they are written on. The Saints could deliver CGM a 6 year $126 million with $66 million guaranteed and all of the following would not be true: not 6 years, not $126 million, not $21 million a year, and not blow up the cap. In fact the only real number that's there is the $66 million. With NFL contracts the only numbers to pay attention to are the guaranteed money. The rest is monopoly money that will either get restructured, or extended, or completely cut depending on the performance of the player after the guaranteed dollars are delivered. As I pointed out in my other post, that $21 million eventual cap hit is actually less percentagewise than cap hits for WR in the past. Larry Fitzgeralds 2011 cap hit of $16.8 million was 13% of the 2011 salary cap. By the time CGM gets anywhere near a $20 million cap hit, the cap will be above $200 million, meaning that the hit would be less than 10% of the cap.

Every NFL contract for virtually every elite player in every position will be the highest of all time for the 5 minutes it's the latest contract. It's just not worth getting hung up on that phrase. Just take a look at the extension signed by Kevin Byard of the Titans this week: 5 years, $70.5 million, $33 guaranteed, $14.1 million average. It tops out the contract for Landon Collins and the next safety will get even more. BTW note the relevant number is missing, $33 million guaranteed. Byard can be cut 3 years into the extension and never see the back end money.

And of course, it didn't blow up the Titans' cap.

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Old 07-29-2019, 10:03 PM   #33
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Just stop it SFIAH, you're making way too much sense.
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:14 PM   #34
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Just stop it SFIAH, you're making way too much sense.
Sorry. I'm just trying to understand the kneejerk reaction. Let's not forget these exact same arguments come out each time Brees comes up for an extension: "Brees is too much a hit on the cap. We'll just have to let him go." It's crazy talk man. I guess next year we'll be back talking about it's time to trade AK because he's going to want to be paid because he's clearly outplayed his 3rd round rookie contract.

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Old 07-29-2019, 10:41 PM   #35
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I know I had a bet with dicknozzle over there about Cam last year but I really did want to see him work out. I was hoping he and Smith would make everyone forget about last years receiving corps. I really hoped they would be an unexpected surprise. I still think Smith will come into his own. People give him a bad shake but itís not every day that 3rd round players like Kamara come out of the wood pile and make a huge impact right away
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:42 AM   #36
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Butler is getting a lot of praise and is the current camp darling.
At 6'3" 220, speed and good hands, he seems like he could stick.
NFL Radio gushed about Butler when talking with Payton and Payton even gushed a little himself. He even made a Colston comparison.
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Old 07-30-2019, 12:05 PM   #37
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I fell for AA becoming the next Colston after he would hang the cleats up and we wouldnít miss a beat . He should have not come out of college early
Anyone remember Onomo Ojo? I thought he was going to be a superstar.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:13 PM   #38
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Wishing him well where ever he goes. Really bummed out it didn't work for us, but he's had a history with injuries which was the biggest concern with signing him last year.
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Old 08-02-2019, 07:25 PM   #39
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He's a Patriot now. He'll go off for 150 receiving yards and 3 TDs in a blow out regular season win and then we'll be wondering why we let him go.
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Old 08-02-2019, 07:33 PM   #40
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Anyone remember Onomo Ojo? I thought he was going to be a superstar.

But he was cheap and still not worth the money.
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