Football Outsiders has the Saints with the highest SB win chance for 2019

CHA_CHING · 08-02-2019, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Manning was hampered by a debilitating neck injury. Brees is currently as healthy as a horse. Big difference.

Manning's neck injury resulted in him missing the 2011 season. He had a groin and foot injury that came out after Denver's 2014 playoff loss to Indy.

I think it's debatable if Brees got hurt late in the season last year, cause his collapse in the final month went eerily similar to Peyton's in 2014 and something was not right with his accuracy. I saw the guys from B&G Report on Twitter talk about Brees' throwing motion looking different late in the season from early on and they've debated if he got hurt late in the year.

I made the comparison to Manning's 2014 season cause we were almost a mirror image of that old Broncos team. They had a week 11 loss where their offense only scored 10 points and then would struggle the rest of the year. Denver transitioned from an offensive juggernaut to beating teams with strong defensive play and turnovers. Manning went from MVP candidate in 2014 to his efficiency stats tanking, not unlike how Brees was in the MVP debate until the final month of the season. We had that same transition last year after the Dallas loss.

AsylumGuido · 08-02-2019, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Manning's neck injury resulted in him missing the 2011 season. He had a groin and foot injury that came out after Denver's 2014 playoff loss to Indy.

I think it's debatable if Brees got hurt late in the season last year, cause his collapse in the final month went eerily similar to Peyton's in 2014 and something was not right with his accuracy. I saw the guys from B&G Report on Twitter talk about Brees' throwing motion looking different late in the season from early on and they've debated if he got hurt late in the year.

I made the comparison to Manning's 2014 season cause we were almost a mirror image of that old Broncos team. They had a week 11 loss where their offense only scored 10 points and then would struggle the rest of the year. Denver transitioned from an offensive juggernaut to beating teams with strong defensive play and turnovers. Manning went from MVP candidate in 2014 to his efficiency stats tanking, not unlike how Brees was in the MVP debate until the final month of the season. We had that same transition last year after the Dallas loss.

I have heard from more than one source that Brees suffered a bruise to his throwing hand from hitting a helmet late in the season somewhere around the Cowboys game.

The Dude · 08-02-2019, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have heard from more than one source that Brees suffered a bruise to his throwing hand from hitting a helmet late in the season somewhere around the Cowboys game.

I suspected the same. The injuries that were piling up along the offensive line did not help.
Armstead has already been a little banged up in camp.
I like our chances. I think it’s going to come down to beating the Falcons 3 times this year to make it to the SB.

AsylumGuido · 08-02-2019, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I suspected the same. The injuries that were piling up along the offensive line did not help.
Armstead has already been a little banged up in camp.

Unger was beat up, too. Ram was the only fully healthy offensive lineman. Payton said that Armstead is coming into camp this year in full health and sounded excited by that. I would be, too.

08-02-2019, 07:22 PM	#1
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Football Outsiders has the Saints with the highest SB win chance for 2019 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Manning was hampered by a debilitating neck injury. Brees is currently as healthy as a horse. Big difference. Manning's neck injury resulted in him missing the 2011 season. He had a groin and foot injury that came out after Denver's 2014 playoff loss to Indy. I think it's debatable if Brees got hurt late in the season last year, cause his collapse in the final month went eerily similar to Peyton's in 2014 and something was not right with his accuracy. I saw the guys from B&G Report on Twitter talk about Brees' throwing motion looking different late in the season from early on and they've debated if he got hurt late in the year. I made the comparison to Manning's 2014 season cause we were almost a mirror image of that old Broncos team. They had a week 11 loss where their offense only scored 10 points and then would struggle the rest of the year. Denver transitioned from an offensive juggernaut to beating teams with strong defensive play and turnovers. Manning went from MVP candidate in 2014 to his efficiency stats tanking, not unlike how Brees was in the MVP debate until the final month of the season. We had that same transition last year after the Dallas loss.

08-02-2019, 11:01 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Football Outsiders has the Saints with the highest SB win chance for 2019 Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Manning's neck injury resulted in him missing the 2011 season. He had a groin and foot injury that came out after Denver's 2014 playoff loss to Indy. I think it's debatable if Brees got hurt late in the season last year, cause his collapse in the final month went eerily similar to Peyton's in 2014 and something was not right with his accuracy. I saw the guys from B&G Report on Twitter talk about Brees' throwing motion looking different late in the season from early on and they've debated if he got hurt late in the year. I made the comparison to Manning's 2014 season cause we were almost a mirror image of that old Broncos team. They had a week 11 loss where their offense only scored 10 points and then would struggle the rest of the year. Denver transitioned from an offensive juggernaut to beating teams with strong defensive play and turnovers. Manning went from MVP candidate in 2014 to his efficiency stats tanking, not unlike how Brees was in the MVP debate until the final month of the season. We had that same transition last year after the Dallas loss. I have heard from more than one source that Brees suffered a bruise to his throwing hand from hitting a helmet late in the season somewhere around the Cowboys game.

08-02-2019, 11:17 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Football Outsiders has the Saints with the highest SB win chance for 2019 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have heard from more than one source that Brees suffered a bruise to his throwing hand from hitting a helmet late in the season somewhere around the Cowboys game. I suspected the same. The injuries that were piling up along the offensive line did not help. Armstead has already been a little banged up in camp. I like our chances. I think it’s going to come down to beating the Falcons 3 times this year to make it to the SB.
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08-02-2019, 11:20 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Football Outsiders has the Saints with the highest SB win chance for 2019 Originally Posted by The Dude I suspected the same. The injuries that were piling up along the offensive line did not help. Armstead has already been a little banged up in camp. Unger was beat up, too. Ram was the only fully healthy offensive lineman. Payton said that Armstead is coming into camp this year in full health and sounded excited by that. I would be, too.