here are my thoughts for the upcoming season...............

ssmitty · 07-10-2005, 05:40 PM

while coach eddie haskell might have saved his azzzzzzz the last part of the season, he may have also found a way to win while doing so........keep it simple................an admission that both sides may be dumb, but successfully so..........................smitty

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-10-2005, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by ssmitty

while coach eddie haskell might have saved his azzzzzzz the last part of the season, he may have also found a way to win while doing so........keep it simple................an admission that both sides may be dumb, but successfully so..........................smitty

That may be true on the defensive side of the ball. But there's no indication that the offense made any significant changes over the win streak. Care to point to some evidence?

SFIAH

saintz08 · 07-10-2005, 09:30 PM

Exactly what makes you think that Brooks has a problem with the complexity of the offense? Is he making the wrong handoff? Or throwing the ball into the stands?

Where have you been ???

Did you miss the Duece comments last year about how Brooks called the wrong blocking assignments on a run play .

I would think that has something to do with the complexity of the offense .

along · 07-10-2005, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by ssmitty

please feel free to correct me if i'm, or you think, i'm wrong.........

with a simple offense in place, brooks should duplicate his rookie yr.
in fact, he should surpass it..............
we should not only be in the playoffs, but be the divisional champs....
we should at least tie division and go 3-3..........
my thoughts are we sweep at least 1 of em...........
tampa would be my choice...........
the more simple, the more wins.............
now, granted, we did not have in place the defense, nor the offense for that matter when brooks took over, however, i think we have at least the equivalent on offense and defense wise, we may actually surprise.....
what i'm saying, is if, brooks can have that rookie yr, with his experience now, all playoff teams will be afraid...........all of em..........
as i would have been if we had made the playoffs last yr........
i look for very good things to happen this yr, very good things...smitty

I feel you is wrong to look for only Aaron Brooks to
duplicate his first time starting for the Saints and
get this team in the playoffs as divisional champs.
Football is a team thing...not a one man show!

PS...Aaron Brooks was playing for Green Bay in his
rookie year.

8)

ssmitty · 07-11-2005, 03:50 AM

sfiah, if you're asking me if i think brooks is equal to a tom brady, no, i do not..........i would much rather have seen the ball in the stands on many plays last yr than where a lot of em ended up.....brooks has a tendency to become rattled once a play breaks down, thus the forced play. is this due to the fact that some plays take longer to develope? some of em, sure........
i am simply saying i think brooks plays better with his head clear as opposed to filling it with too many plays.
while you can argue execution, the blame can fall on all...........good day, bad day..........we pretty much played catch up last yr, and while the stats for the defensive side don't lie, the offense was no fireworks show.
once again, if we can match score for score, the wins will come. i like the fact they want to simplify, and think it will result in more wins.
as far as an opposing defense defending against this, the fact remains they have to execute as well............
just like us, if they can't stop the run, they're in for a long day. smitty

GoldenTomb · 07-11-2005, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Where have you been ???

Did you miss the Duece comments last year about how Brooks called the wrong blocking assignments on a run play .

I would think that has something to do with the complexity of the offense .

Least I remember, i thought the center did the line calls? are it could be both...Regardless, it the same problem here, you have those that are gonna find a way to blame it all on Brooks.

The QB, IS NOT AS IMPORTANT to the offense as some of those here want you to believe, hence Trent Dilfer= Garbage, Brad Johnson= Journeymen, Delhomme= Journeymen, Kurt Warner=Journeymen, Kerry Collins=Garbage...Have you missed the comments of the rest of the NFL, Jack Del Rio etc? Del Rio said after beating us, they'd better work on getting their run defense fixed, we beat while I was in Carolina because of it and now in Jacksonville.

The only place where you can find people even remotely blaming AB for the Saints woe's is in NewOrleans. And trust me it ain't cause ya'll are smarter.

I could be wrong but I don't see anyone here blaming all of the Saints woes on AB. However if you could name the single most important player on offense for the Saints, I don't see how it could be anyone other than AB. This guy has his hands on the ball every snap. How could he not be the most important guy on offense? That being said....if we were to replace him, it would not fix the Saints problems, but I believe it would be a step in the right direction. Also you can't take the national media's spin on things too seriously because they don't watch the Saints quite honestly. They might watch NFL Primetime and that's it. We do watch every game so yeah, we are more informed on the Saints than they are. The only guys that really do their homework on us are the guys in Bristol, the ESPN crew.

If the D is the end all to our problems like a lot of you say, then we are in for another looooooooong season, seeing as we passed up the two best defensive players in the draft for a RT. Dwight Smith and a third round LB doesn't equal the defensive overhaul that this team needed.

FireVenturi · 07-11-2005, 07:08 PM

dont really matter what kinda year AB has if we have the 32nd ranked D again!!!!!

saintz08 · 07-11-2005, 07:53 PM

dont really matter what kinda year AB has if we have the 32nd ranked D again!!!!!

If Brooks could at least achieve the minimum standard for a quarterback going into the play offs , there might be a lot fewer critics ..... When Brooks cannot even do that , well then there is miles of room for debate ....

spkb25 · 07-11-2005, 08:06 PM

along you have just said something i have been saying for the longest time. i have said it on here and with friends. no one player makes or breaks a team. this is by far a team sport. i also have said everything always starts up front on both sides of the ball. if the ravens can win the super bowl with trent dilfer then we can with brooks. at the same time though you see how unreal the ravens d was that year. so if you have an average or less then average o it has to be compensated for by the d. we will not be able to do that because our d is obviously not even close to that. . so we need a strong running game a good passing attack and our d has to be top 10-12 this year.

GoldenTomb · 07-11-2005, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

along you have just said something i have been saying for the longest time. i have said it on here and with friends. no one player makes or breaks a team. this is by far a team sport. i also have said everything always starts up front on both sides of the ball. if the ravens can win the super bowl with trent dilfer then we can with brooks. at the same time though you see how unreal the ravens d was that year. so if you have an average or less then average o it has to be compensated for by the d. we will not be able to do that because our d is obviously not even close to that. . so we need a strong running game a good passing attack and our d has to be top 10-12 this year.

That is some wishful thinking seeing as there will be 1, maybe 2 new starters on D. In all likelyhood we will have a bottom feeder defense. HOWEVER, seeing as they spent so much money on the offensive side of the ball, it's obvious that they are trying to minimize the amount of time that this horrible D is on the field.

We won't have a top 5, top 10, top 15 or top 20 D this year....that ship sailed when they passed up on Thomas Davis and Derrick Johnson, unless you believe in magic. It makes more sense to expect bigger things from the offense, which has been put in a position to succeed with the additions on Mayberry and Brown.

The FO mentalilty is.....

If the D stays on the field all game we lose.
If the O stays on the field all game we win.

It's obvious what the team wants to do, so it is paramount that AB and the rest of the O get their act together. I think that playing with a lead will help the D, which is something we rarely did last year because of the o's inability to get drives going.

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ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	while coach eddie haskell might have saved his azzzzzzz the last part of the season, he may have also found a way to win while doing so........keep it simple................an admission that both sides may be dumb, but successfully so..........................smitty
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07-10-2005, 05:54 PM	#12
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Originally Posted by ssmitty while coach eddie haskell might have saved his azzzzzzz the last part of the season, he may have also found a way to win while doing so........keep it simple................an admission that both sides may be dumb, but successfully so..........................smitty That may be true on the defensive side of the ball. But there's no indication that the offense made any significant changes over the win streak. Care to point to some evidence? SFIAH

07-10-2005, 09:30 PM	#13
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Exactly what makes you think that Brooks has a problem with the complexity of the offense? Is he making the wrong handoff? Or throwing the ball into the stands? Where have you been ??? Did you miss the Duece comments last year about how Brooks called the wrong blocking assignments on a run play . I would think that has something to do with the complexity of the offense .
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along 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 190	Re: here are my thoughts for the upcoming season............ Originally Posted by ssmitty please feel free to correct me if i'm, or you think, i'm wrong......... with a simple offense in place, brooks should duplicate his rookie yr. in fact, he should surpass it.............. we should not only be in the playoffs, but be the divisional champs.... we should at least tie division and go 3-3.......... my thoughts are we sweep at least 1 of em........... tampa would be my choice........... the more simple, the more wins............. now, granted, we did not have in place the defense, nor the offense for that matter when brooks took over, however, i think we have at least the equivalent on offense and defense wise, we may actually surprise..... what i'm saying, is if, brooks can have that rookie yr, with his experience now, all playoff teams will be afraid...........all of em.......... as i would have been if we had made the playoffs last yr........ i look for very good things to happen this yr, very good things...smitty I feel you is wrong to look for only Aaron Brooks to duplicate his first time starting for the Saints and get this team in the playoffs as divisional champs. Football is a team thing...not a one man show! PS...Aaron Brooks was playing for Green Bay in his rookie year. 8)
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07-11-2005, 03:50 AM	#15
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	sfiah, if you're asking me if i think brooks is equal to a tom brady, no, i do not..........i would much rather have seen the ball in the stands on many plays last yr than where a lot of em ended up.....brooks has a tendency to become rattled once a play breaks down, thus the forced play. is this due to the fact that some plays take longer to develope? some of em, sure........ i am simply saying i think brooks plays better with his head clear as opposed to filling it with too many plays. while you can argue execution, the blame can fall on all...........good day, bad day..........we pretty much played catch up last yr, and while the stats for the defensive side don't lie, the offense was no fireworks show. once again, if we can match score for score, the wins will come. i like the fact they want to simplify, and think it will result in more wins. as far as an opposing defense defending against this, the fact remains they have to execute as well............ just like us, if they can't stop the run, they're in for a long day. smitty
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GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Where have you been ??? Did you miss the Duece comments last year about how Brooks called the wrong blocking assignments on a run play . I would think that has something to do with the complexity of the offense . Least I remember, i thought the center did the line calls? are it could be both...Regardless, it the same problem here, you have those that are gonna find a way to blame it all on Brooks. The QB, IS NOT AS IMPORTANT to the offense as some of those here want you to believe, hence Trent Dilfer= Garbage, Brad Johnson= Journeymen, Delhomme= Journeymen, Kurt Warner=Journeymen, Kerry Collins=Garbage...Have you missed the comments of the rest of the NFL, Jack Del Rio etc? Del Rio said after beating us, they'd better work on getting their run defense fixed, we beat while I was in Carolina because of it and now in Jacksonville. The only place where you can find people even remotely blaming AB for the Saints woe's is in NewOrleans. And trust me it ain't cause ya'll are smarter. I could be wrong but I don't see anyone here blaming all of the Saints woes on AB. However if you could name the single most important player on offense for the Saints, I don't see how it could be anyone other than AB. This guy has his hands on the ball every snap. How could he not be the most important guy on offense? That being said....if we were to replace him, it would not fix the Saints problems, but I believe it would be a step in the right direction. Also you can't take the national media's spin on things too seriously because they don't watch the Saints quite honestly. They might watch NFL Primetime and that's it. We do watch every game so yeah, we are more informed on the Saints than they are. The only guys that really do their homework on us are the guys in Bristol, the ESPN crew. If the D is the end all to our problems like a lot of you say, then we are in for another looooooooong season, seeing as we passed up the two best defensive players in the draft for a RT. Dwight Smith and a third round LB doesn't equal the defensive overhaul that this team needed.
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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	dont really matter what kinda year AB has if we have the 32nd ranked D again!!!!!

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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	dont really matter what kinda year AB has if we have the 32nd ranked D again!!!!! If Brooks could at least achieve the minimum standard for a quarterback going into the play offs , there might be a lot fewer critics ..... When Brooks cannot even do that , well then there is miles of room for debate ....
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	RE: Re: here are my thoughts for the upcoming season........ along you have just said something i have been saying for the longest time. i have said it on here and with friends. no one player makes or breaks a team. this is by far a team sport. i also have said everything always starts up front on both sides of the ball. if the ravens can win the super bowl with trent dilfer then we can with brooks. at the same time though you see how unreal the ravens d was that year. so if you have an average or less then average o it has to be compensated for by the d. we will not be able to do that because our d is obviously not even close to that. . so we need a strong running game a good passing attack and our d has to be top 10-12 this year.

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GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Re: RE: Re: here are my thoughts for the upcoming season.... Originally Posted by spkb25 along you have just said something i have been saying for the longest time. i have said it on here and with friends. no one player makes or breaks a team. this is by far a team sport. i also have said everything always starts up front on both sides of the ball. if the ravens can win the super bowl with trent dilfer then we can with brooks. at the same time though you see how unreal the ravens d was that year. so if you have an average or less then average o it has to be compensated for by the d. we will not be able to do that because our d is obviously not even close to that. . so we need a strong running game a good passing attack and our d has to be top 10-12 this year. That is some wishful thinking seeing as there will be 1, maybe 2 new starters on D. In all likelyhood we will have a bottom feeder defense. HOWEVER, seeing as they spent so much money on the offensive side of the ball, it's obvious that they are trying to minimize the amount of time that this horrible D is on the field. We won't have a top 5, top 10, top 15 or top 20 D this year....that ship sailed when they passed up on Thomas Davis and Derrick Johnson, unless you believe in magic. It makes more sense to expect bigger things from the offense, which has been put in a position to succeed with the additions on Mayberry and Brown. The FO mentalilty is..... If the D stays on the field all game we lose. If the O stays on the field all game we win. It's obvious what the team wants to do, so it is paramount that AB and the rest of the O get their act together. I think that playing with a lead will help the D, which is something we rarely did last year because of the o's inability to get drives going.
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