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AsylumGuido 08-06-2019 02:26 PM

Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray
 
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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 849827)
Him and Armstead will spend more time in the training room than on the field.

Just trying to prepare you for it now lol

Where did you come up with that? One of the things that stands out about Murray is his durability. Do you think before you type?

neugey 08-06-2019 02:39 PM

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We just need Murray to do what CJ Anderson did for the Rams last year. As the season wears on and defenses wear down and get banged up get him more carries and let him take some pressure off Kamara. If Murray has 2.4 yards per carry through the first 6 games we might need to be patient is what I'm saying.

dam1953 08-06-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 849836)
Recent record bringing in Vet RB's is not good. Sproles and Hightower were exceptions. A lot of red flags. Age, health, unknown true catch ability. Someone said he is wearing a back brace. Not sure if true. Guess we will find out soon what we have.

The biggest red flag seems to be the one that is most difficult to measure...what lies between the ears. Many of the misfires we've had at RB and receiver are because they just couldn't understand the system. This will keep you on the sideline, no matter how talented you are.

K Major 08-06-2019 02:56 PM

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For a newly acquired FA running back who has yet to play in one meaningful game for the Black and Gold, I don't think I've ever seen so much malevolence & venom.

Maybe Saints coaches should come to their senses and cut him now :rolleyes:.

homerj07 08-06-2019 03:06 PM

Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 849836)
Recent record bringing in Vet RB's is not good. Sproles and Hightower were exceptions. A lot of red flags. Age, health, unknown true catch ability. Someone said he is wearing a back brace. Not sure if true. Guess we will find out soon what we have.

I agree. I understand hedging your bets.... But, damn, we are bringing in RBs left and right.

That is a little worrisome. :pissed:

AsylumGuido 08-06-2019 03:27 PM

Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 849843)
For a newly acquired FA running back who has yet to play in one meaningful game for the Black and Gold, I don't think I've ever seen so much malevolence & venom.

Maybe Saints coaches should come to their senses and cut him now :rolleyes:.

Consider the source.

saintsfan1976 08-06-2019 07:14 PM

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Latavius Murray is like the fifth option in our offense. Stack the box with everything you've got.

Burn, you learn!

Utah_Saint 08-06-2019 07:26 PM

Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 849791)
I've watched all his games the last few years. If we use him like we did Ingram early in his career or AD it will fail. He will get stuffed for 2-3 yards most of the time if not blown up at the line just like they did.

It wasn't until Ingram got involved in passing he started having success but that took a while to develop.

Ingram career catch percentage - 79.7%
Murray career catch percentage - 79.0%

Ingram career yards/target - 5.58
Murray career yards/target - 5.45

Ingram career yards/reception - 7.0
Murray career yards/reception - 6.9

You'd be hard pressed to find two running backs with closer receiving stats.

nola_swammi 08-07-2019 02:16 AM

Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray
 
right now I wish they paid the 1 million extra for Ingram however I think Kamara can take over the payload

Beastmode 08-07-2019 04:25 AM

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The stats though are from different sample sizes and different routes.

Murray career catches: 128
Ingram career catches: 228

As for routes, just looking at highlights, Murray has almost no screens. It's mostly Carlos Hyde style dump offs. With Ingram lots of screens with bigger gains.

If Murray can have some success with screens he's going to have probably one of his best outliner years and really screw up defenses. If not, he can still do ok with GL runs but there will be a drop in production. I could see a 3 back rotation develop like with AD, Kamara and Ingram.


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