Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings

AsylumGuido · 08-11-2019, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Yeah....we lost!

Believe me. I was sitting there watching every snap hoping that the big play would come through on offense, defense or special teams. I hate the Saints losing as much as, or more, than the rest of you, but a preseason loss is tempered by the known facts.

saintsfan1976 · 08-11-2019, 07:45 PM

Positive or negative - I would avoid overreaction in either direction after preseason game 1.

WillMacKenzie · 08-11-2019, 08:52 PM

“Bridgwater Shines” is a bit overzealous.

He had 36 yards in the air with the remainder being YAC. Mostly check downs with the exception of an amazing catch by Grayson.

Not going to cut the mustard if Drew goes down, and Hill didn’t impress me in the pocket either.

LUTZ SHINES would be more accurate, returner Harris was good, Murray was good in limited time, and basically not impressed with the defense whatsoever.

Kyle Sloter was undrafted out of N Colorado and had a QB rating of 143, 6/7 8.9 avg and a TD. Sloter shines.

Crusader · 08-12-2019, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

“Bridgwater Shines” is a bit overzealous.

He had 36 yards in the air with the remainder being YAC. Mostly check downs with the exception of an amazing catch by Grayson.

Not going to cut the mustard if Drew goes down, and Hill didn’t impress me in the pocket either.

LUTZ SHINES would be more accurate, returner Harris was good, Murray was good in limited time, and basically not impressed with the defense whatsoever.

Kyle Sloter was undrafted out of N Colorado and had a QB rating of 143, 6/7 8.9 avg and a TD. Sloter shines.

Pretty good summary. Bridgewater did what he is supposed to. If he plays like that and the defence gets better that will be enough to win games.

Thirty3 · 08-11-2019, 11:43 PM

Didn’t get to see the game. Grrr. My brother who is a serious student of the game texted that Teddy had happy feet and did not look comfortable in the pocket. Saw a lot of positive comments here but only one factual breakdown of his efforts by willMackenzie. He sounded logical. Hoping Teddy can get it in gear. I think he and Hill both just need time under center. Hopefully they get it in preseason.

Beastmode · 08-12-2019, 06:55 AM

Big picture on Bridgewater; we got uncommon value with that trade.

An OL and a DB were were taken right about there. The OL graded out worse than EriK Mcoy. The DB is good but really no speed. He's not a top tier CB.

Not only did we get Bridgewater, but we also got a 6th in Saquan Hampton I think. He likely makes the team so we got a Pro Bowl QB and a good prospect.

As much as I like Hill, he would not win us many games as the starter. Accurate at times but also way off the dart board other times.

K Major · 08-12-2019, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

As much as I like Hill, he would not win us many games as the starter. Accurate at times but also way off the dart board other times.

I re watched some of Taysom's throws ... I'd say he's fairly accurate however ball placement is where he struggles.

** Side note - Erik McKoy was really impressive under center p/s game #1 . Doesn't seem to get "caught" or flat footed after the snap. Strong guy, see's the field well.

Solid draft pick.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-12-2019, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Big picture on Bridgewater; we got uncommon value with that trade.

An OL and a DB were were taken right about there. The OL graded out worse than EriK Mcoy. The DB is good but really no speed. He's not a top tier CB.

Not only did we get Bridgewater, but we also got a 6th in Saquan Hampton I think. He likely makes the team so we got a Pro Bowl QB and a good prospect.

As much as I like Hill, he would not win us many games as the starter. Accurate at times but also way off the dart board other times.

Technically, any value in the trade for Teddy went poof at the beginning of the league year. Teddy resigned with the Saints as a free agent on a 1 year deal for this season. He's here because he wants to be here.

SFIAH

Beastmode · 08-12-2019, 08:31 AM

I thought we got a 6th out of it this year. That would be Saquan Hampton.

Hard to follow the shuffling of pick trades sometimes. They can bounce all over the place but I do believe we got a 6th from the Jets in a pick swap. I would also take Bridgewater over Sam Darnold.

SmashMouth · 08-12-2019, 08:29 AM

We are all spoiled with how Brees gets rid of the ball before getting hit. In other words, real good pocket presence. Taysom can create plays when there are none, even though his accuracy isn't consistent.

Brees' arm when I saw him at Yulman's did show a bit stronger than it looked toward the end of the year last year. Speculation for his drop off, maybe.

This is still the first preseason game and nothing really useful other than talent evaluation.

08-11-2019, 07:45 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,020 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Positive or negative - I would avoid overreaction in either direction after preseason game 1. Barry from MS, AsylumGuido and Garry42 like this.

08-11-2019, 08:52 PM	#3
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings “Bridgwater Shines” is a bit overzealous. He had 36 yards in the air with the remainder being YAC. Mostly check downs with the exception of an amazing catch by Grayson. Not going to cut the mustard if Drew goes down, and Hill didn’t impress me in the pocket either. LUTZ SHINES would be more accurate, returner Harris was good, Murray was good in limited time, and basically not impressed with the defense whatsoever. Kyle Sloter was undrafted out of N Colorado and had a QB rating of 143, 6/7 8.9 avg and a TD. Sloter shines. SmashMouth likes this.

08-12-2019, 05:37 AM	#4
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,044	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie “Bridgwater Shines” is a bit overzealous. He had 36 yards in the air with the remainder being YAC. Mostly check downs with the exception of an amazing catch by Grayson. Not going to cut the mustard if Drew goes down, and Hill didn’t impress me in the pocket either. LUTZ SHINES would be more accurate, returner Harris was good, Murray was good in limited time, and basically not impressed with the defense whatsoever. Kyle Sloter was undrafted out of N Colorado and had a QB rating of 143, 6/7 8.9 avg and a TD. Sloter shines. Pretty good summary. Bridgewater did what he is supposed to. If he plays like that and the defence gets better that will be enough to win games. SaintFanInATLHELL and SmashMouth like this.
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08-11-2019, 11:43 PM	#5
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Didn’t get to see the game. Grrr. My brother who is a serious student of the game texted that Teddy had happy feet and did not look comfortable in the pocket. Saw a lot of positive comments here but only one factual breakdown of his efforts by willMackenzie. He sounded logical. Hoping Teddy can get it in gear. I think he and Hill both just need time under center. Hopefully they get it in preseason.
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08-12-2019, 06:55 AM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Big picture on Bridgewater; we got uncommon value with that trade. An OL and a DB were were taken right about there. The OL graded out worse than EriK Mcoy. The DB is good but really no speed. He's not a top tier CB. Not only did we get Bridgewater, but we also got a 6th in Saquan Hampton I think. He likely makes the team so we got a Pro Bowl QB and a good prospect. As much as I like Hill, he would not win us many games as the starter. Accurate at times but also way off the dart board other times. SmashMouth and Saint in Aus like this.
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08-11-2019, 02:25 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Yeah....we lost! Believe me. I was sitting there watching every snap hoping that the big play would come through on offense, defense or special teams. I hate the Saints losing as much as, or more, than the rest of you, but a preseason loss is tempered by the known facts.

08-12-2019, 07:06 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Originally Posted by Beastmode As much as I like Hill, he would not win us many games as the starter. Accurate at times but also way off the dart board other times. I re watched some of Taysom's throws ... I'd say he's fairly accurate however ball placement is where he struggles. Side note - Erik McKoy** was really impressive under center p/s game #1 . Doesn't seem to get "caught" or flat footed after the snap. Strong guy, see's the field well. Solid draft pick. SmashMouth likes this.

08-12-2019, 07:55 AM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings Originally Posted by Beastmode Big picture on Bridgewater; we got uncommon value with that trade. An OL and a DB were were taken right about there. The OL graded out worse than EriK Mcoy. The DB is good but really no speed. He's not a top tier CB. Not only did we get Bridgewater, but we also got a 6th in Saquan Hampton I think. He likely makes the team so we got a Pro Bowl QB and a good prospect. As much as I like Hill, he would not win us many games as the starter. Accurate at times but also way off the dart board other times. Technically, any value in the trade for Teddy went poof at the beginning of the league year. Teddy resigned with the Saints as a free agent on a 1 year deal for this season. He's here because he wants to be here. SFIAH SmashMouth and K Major like this.

08-12-2019, 08:31 AM	#9
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings I thought we got a 6th out of it this year. That would be Saquan Hampton. Hard to follow the shuffling of pick trades sometimes. They can bounce all over the place but I do believe we got a 6th from the Jets in a pick swap. I would also take Bridgewater over Sam Darnold.
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08-12-2019, 08:29 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,782 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Five takeaways from Saints vs. Vikings We are all spoiled with how Brees gets rid of the ball before getting hit. In other words, real good pocket presence. Taysom can create plays when there are none, even though his accuracy isn't consistent. Brees' arm when I saw him at Yulman's did show a bit stronger than it looked toward the end of the year last year. Speculation for his drop off, maybe. This is still the first preseason game and nothing really useful other than talent evaluation. K Major likes this.