FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks

Beastmode · 08-17-2019, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

I've had that discussion with other Saints fans who complained about him. I asked, "If the QB is hurt, everyone knows he is hurt, and he is still in the game, is that his fault or the Coach?"

I blame Haslet for his performance those games.

It was a horrible situation because we could have won some of those games in 2002 with Delhomme down the stretch. The fans were screaming for Delhomme but they refused.

We had the 3rd ranked offense. One more win and we were in the playoffs. Ended up losing to the worst team in the league at the end, the 2-14 Bengals.

SmashMouth · 08-17-2019, 09:54 AM

Seemingly successful post football.

Following his retirement from pro football in 2007, Brooks announced plans to go into property development. In the summer of 2008, work began on his first project to be underway, Burlington Woods, an upscale subdivision located on 17 acres (69,000 m2) in James City County, Virginia. Burlington Woods will consist of 26 lots that will be 1⁄4-acre (1,000 m2) to 1⁄3-acre (1,300 m2). The four to five bedroom homes are expected to be from 2,000 square feet (190 m2) to 4,500 square feet (420 m2) in size. Brooks said he will oversee the project through its completion, but Ryan Homes will take over the construction phase once the individual lots are prepped.[8]

Earlier in 2008, he announced plans to invest in Southeast Commerce Center, a redevelopment project in his hometown of Newport News. In a July 2008 interview, Brooks described plans to redevelop part of downtown Newport News, a city that shares many of the same social problems as New Orleans.[9] The multimillion-dollar investment would be a mixed-use development between Jefferson and Terminal avenues and 33rd and 29th streets in the economically depressed East End area.,[10] including 190 town houses, a grocery store and retail offerings.[8] Vice Mayor Charles Allen, who has represented the district for 16 years on the Newport News City Council, said that it was "significant that one of our own has taken his resources and other resources to show us that we can do it. It's a good day. It's a good day for our community."[11] Brooks commented, "It's a great opportunity to give back to the community and at the same time let retailers know we don't just have the stigma of being 'bad news,' ... a lot of hard-working, middle-class people that live in the area. I'm just trying to make the area better for them."[8] As of August 2010, the project had not commenced, but was reported to be back on track after negotiations between Brooks and the city council.[12]

In 2014, Brooks was inducted into the New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame, along with former teammate John Carney. Special celebrations were drawn including a private party in a New Orleans local social events venue. Personalities such as Pharrell Williams, Swizz Beatz, Alicia Keys, Michael Vick and Marcus Vick attended the event.

Wiki

Good dude... good QB for a while, set some of our QB records before Brees blew them out... yet still had that laugh.

Lord_Saint83 · 08-18-2019, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

It was a horrible situation because we could have won some of those games in 2002 with Delhomme down the stretch. The fans were screaming for Delhomme but they refused.

We had the 3rd ranked offense. One more win and we were in the playoffs. Ended up losing to the worst team in the league at the end, the 2-14 Bengals.

Wasn't that the game that peter warrick went off on us?

foreverfan · 08-18-2019, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Wwwwwwhhhhhhhaaaaat?!?!?!

And AB love thread finally after all this time...

OMG... I burnt my jersey years ago.

jeanpierre · 08-18-2019, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

Wasn't that the game that peter warrick went off on us?

Rugby Saint II · 08-19-2019, 11:35 AM

Sorry.....I'm not a fan. I never met the man but I watched him play. That was enough for me. He might be a nice guy but he was a terrible QB.

voodooido · 08-19-2019, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Sorry.....I'm not a fan. I never met the man but I watched him play. That was enough for me. He might be a nice guy but he was a terrible QB.

I would not go as far to say he was terrible. He was an avg qb which was better than what we had for 20 years. I don't dislike him but i can't get over the Cinci game.........

RailBoss · 08-20-2019, 11:31 PM

Bengals fired Haslett along with head coach Marvin Lewis, maybe Atlanta will pick up him up.

vpheughan · 08-21-2019, 07:00 AM

You're so vain .........

CHA_CHING · 08-21-2019, 08:52 AM

Aaron Brooks was the best QB in our franchise history prior to Brees' arrival. I have never understood the hate fans give him.

Prior to Brooks, the best statistical season we had from a QB was Jim Everett's 1995 season. It's a shame we didn't have Everett back in the Dome Patrol days, cause we most likely would've won some playoff games and may have even reached a SB. Bobby Hebert was not a good quarterback and he had some of his worst career games in the playoffs. For some reason he has always gotten a pass for this, but if you're bored, go pull the stats and re-watch the 1991 and 1992 playoff losses. Hebert was the Blake Bortles of playoff QBs back in those seasons when the Dome Patrol was at their peak and he was the ultimate weakness that held those teams back. There is a reason we were desperate enough to get completely robbed trading with Dallas to acquire Steve Walsh who turned out to be a bust.

We all love Archie and he is a great 'what could've been' player in NFL history, but there was no light at the end of the tunnel for what I call your dad or grandfather's Saints. Archie is also heavily debated in stat communities because the Saints shockingly became worse with him starting at QB. The argument there is that a good QB can elevate a bad team and make them win a few games they should lose. That didn't happen with Archie starting, and this was a trend that sadly followed him through his career. On the flip side in defense of Archie, you can make the case that he was put behind horrible o-lines that let him get mauled in his first two seasons before he had any chance to really develop.

Everyone forgets that we were actually leading in the division back in 2002 and we had the tie breaker over Tampa Bay thanks to sweeping them. Brooks had his best game of the year carving up the Tampa defense, and then our season was completely derailed when he got injured and Haslett kept him out there with a messed up shoulder.

The Haslett era Saints were a consistent mediocre team that was always in the race for the playoffs, but couldn't ever get over the hump. Brooks was not to blame for a lot of their problems.

I would still rather have Aaron Brooks in 2003 than Jake Delhomme. The stats speak for themselves and Brooks outperformed Delhomme all year. The hype for Delhomme was because Carolina was a flukey team squeaking out nailbiter wins all year long. Over half of their wins all year, including playoffs were by a touchdown or less, including 4 OT wins. In the SB vs New England, they were set to get blown out until the Patriots secondary faced injuries and that was when Delhomme lit them up with the bomb passes.

08-17-2019, 08:50 AM	#11
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Originally Posted by stickman I've had that discussion with other Saints fans who complained about him. I asked, "If the QB is hurt, everyone knows he is hurt, and he is still in the game, is that his fault or the Coach?" I blame Haslet for his performance those games. It was a horrible situation because we could have won some of those games in 2002 with Delhomme down the stretch. The fans were screaming for Delhomme but they refused. We had the 3rd ranked offense. One more win and we were in the playoffs. Ended up losing to the worst team in the league at the end, the 2-14 Bengals. stickman likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Seemingly successful post football. Following his retirement from pro football in 2007, Brooks announced plans to go into property development. In the summer of 2008, work began on his first project to be underway, Burlington Woods, an upscale subdivision located on 17 acres (69,000 m2) in James City County, Virginia. Burlington Woods will consist of 26 lots that will be 1⁄4-acre (1,000 m2) to 1⁄3-acre (1,300 m2). The four to five bedroom homes are expected to be from 2,000 square feet (190 m2) to 4,500 square feet (420 m2) in size. Brooks said he will oversee the project through its completion, but Ryan Homes will take over the construction phase once the individual lots are prepped.[8] Earlier in 2008, he announced plans to invest in Southeast Commerce Center, a redevelopment project in his hometown of Newport News. In a July 2008 interview, Brooks described plans to redevelop part of downtown Newport News, a city that shares many of the same social problems as New Orleans.[9] The multimillion-dollar investment would be a mixed-use development between Jefferson and Terminal avenues and 33rd and 29th streets in the economically depressed East End area.,[10] including 190 town houses, a grocery store and retail offerings.[8] Vice Mayor Charles Allen, who has represented the district for 16 years on the Newport News City Council, said that it was "significant that one of our own has taken his resources and other resources to show us that we can do it. It's a good day. It's a good day for our community."[11] Brooks commented, "It's a great opportunity to give back to the community and at the same time let retailers know we don't just have the stigma of being 'bad news,' ... a lot of hard-working, middle-class people that live in the area. I'm just trying to make the area better for them."[8] As of August 2010, the project had not commenced, but was reported to be back on track after negotiations between Brooks and the city council.[12] In 2014, Brooks was inducted into the New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame, along with former teammate John Carney. Special celebrations were drawn including a private party in a New Orleans local social events venue. Personalities such as Pharrell Williams, Swizz Beatz, Alicia Keys, Michael Vick and Marcus Vick attended the event. Wiki Good dude... good QB for a while, set some of our QB records before Brees blew them out... yet still had that laugh.

08-18-2019, 12:17 PM	#13
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Originally Posted by Beastmode It was a horrible situation because we could have won some of those games in 2002 with Delhomme down the stretch. The fans were screaming for Delhomme but they refused. We had the 3rd ranked offense. One more win and we were in the playoffs. Ended up losing to the worst team in the league at the end, the 2-14 Bengals. Wasn't that the game that peter warrick went off on us?

08-18-2019, 08:37 PM	#14
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Originally Posted by Euphoria Wwwwwwhhhhhhhaaaaat?!?!?! And AB love thread finally after all this time... OMG... I burnt my jersey years ago.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 Wasn't that the game that peter warrick went off on us? Beastmode and K Major like this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Sorry.....I'm not a fan. I never met the man but I watched him play. That was enough for me. He might be a nice guy but he was a terrible QB. I would not go as far to say he was terrible. He was an avg qb which was better than what we had for 20 years. I don't dislike him but i can't get over the Cinci game......... Beastmode likes this.
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08-21-2019, 08:52 AM	#20
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: FlashBack FRI: Aaron Brooks Aaron Brooks was the best QB in our franchise history prior to Brees' arrival. I have never understood the hate fans give him. Prior to Brooks, the best statistical season we had from a QB was Jim Everett's 1995 season. It's a shame we didn't have Everett back in the Dome Patrol days, cause we most likely would've won some playoff games and may have even reached a SB. Bobby Hebert was not a good quarterback and he had some of his worst career games in the playoffs. For some reason he has always gotten a pass for this, but if you're bored, go pull the stats and re-watch the 1991 and 1992 playoff losses. Hebert was the Blake Bortles of playoff QBs back in those seasons when the Dome Patrol was at their peak and he was the ultimate weakness that held those teams back. There is a reason we were desperate enough to get completely robbed trading with Dallas to acquire Steve Walsh who turned out to be a bust. We all love Archie and he is a great 'what could've been' player in NFL history, but there was no light at the end of the tunnel for what I call your dad or grandfather's Saints. Archie is also heavily debated in stat communities because the Saints shockingly became worse with him starting at QB. The argument there is that a good QB can elevate a bad team and make them win a few games they should lose. That didn't happen with Archie starting, and this was a trend that sadly followed him through his career. On the flip side in defense of Archie, you can make the case that he was put behind horrible o-lines that let him get mauled in his first two seasons before he had any chance to really develop. Everyone forgets that we were actually leading in the division back in 2002 and we had the tie breaker over Tampa Bay thanks to sweeping them. Brooks had his best game of the year carving up the Tampa defense, and then our season was completely derailed when he got injured and Haslett kept him out there with a messed up shoulder. The Haslett era Saints were a consistent mediocre team that was always in the race for the playoffs, but couldn't ever get over the hump. Brooks was not to blame for a lot of their problems. I would still rather have Aaron Brooks in 2003 than Jake Delhomme. The stats speak for themselves and Brooks outperformed Delhomme all year. The hype for Delhomme was because Carolina was a flukey team squeaking out nailbiter wins all year long. Over half of their wins all year, including playoffs were by a touchdown or less, including 4 OT wins. In the SB vs New England, they were set to get blown out until the Patriots secondary faced injuries and that was when Delhomme lit them up with the bomb passes.