AB Thread No Stats Allowed!

BlackandBlue · 07-14-2005, 03:22 PM

You take drugs, Danny?
Every day.
Good. Then what's your problem?

Tobias-Reiper · 07-14-2005, 03:57 PM

... you absolutely can have a conversation about football without statistics...

... can you quantify with stats a Barry Sanders run?
... can you quantify with stats Joe Montana's leadership, running the winning drive in the Superbowl?
... can you quantify with stats a Dome Patrol pass rush?
... can you quantify with stats The Immaculate Reception?
... can you quantify Brooks' smile after an interception?
... can you quantify with stats the look of confusion in Tebucky's face after he was caught out of position yet again?
... can you quantify with stats the illness to our stomach when you see the 2-TE formation?

... oh, it goes on and on...

WhoDat · 07-14-2005, 04:36 PM

Hey, you got a pool up there?
We've got a pool... and a pond. Pond would be good for you.

along · 07-14-2005, 04:58 PM

Darren Howard is the best DE we have
and stats don't have nothing to do with it!!!!

BlackandBlue · 07-14-2005, 06:09 PM

A flute without holes is not a flute. A donut without holes is a danish.

Oh, and, I like the new guy's take on our defensive ends. But that would be right now. Smith made greater strides as a rookie than Howard did, so I'm anxious to see what he can do on a fulltime basis.

along · 07-14-2005, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

A flute without holes is not a flute. A donut without holes is a danish.

Oh, and, I like the new guy's take on our defensive ends. But that would be right now. Smith made greater strides as a rookie than Howard did, so I'm anxious to see what he can do on a fulltime basis.

Your wrong...Howard had an awesome rookie year.
And Smith will be a one great in time!!!

2000 - Finished third on team with a club rookie-record 11 sacks for minus-62 yards, 53 tackles (32 solo), an interception for 46 yards, nine pass defenses, two forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries...Started all 16 games at LDE and both playoff games...Shattered DE Renaldo Turnbull's previous record for sacks by a rookie (nine-1990) with his 11-sack performance...Also led all NFL rookies in sacks and was named to several All-Rookie teams...Was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for September after compiling 14 tackles (six solo), three sacks for minus-18 yards, a forced fumble, and two passes defensed...Registered first forced fumble of his career at the New Orleans 39 yard line, stopping a Lion scoring drive, vs. Detroit, Sept. 3...Recorded his first two NFL sacks at San Diego, Sept. 10...Posted sacks in three consecutive games: Sept. 24, vs. Philadelphia; at Chicago, Oct. 8; vs. Carolina, Oct. 15...Had a solo tackle, five assisted tackles, a pass defensed, and first career interception return for 46 yards, which he fumbled at the one-yard line, narrowly missing a touchdown at Carolina, Nov. 12...Had three solo tackles, two assisted tackles, a sack for minus-eight yards, and one pass defensed vs. Oakland, Nov. 19...Had three solo tackles, an assisted tackle, a sack for minus-5 yards, two passes defensed and a fumble recovery in win at St. Louis, Nov. 26...Had two solo tackles and a sack for minus-9 yards vs. Denver, Dec. 3, tying Turnbull's rookie record for sacks...Broke the record the following week at San Francisco, Dec. 10, with a sack for minus-9 yards...Had sack in his sixth consecutive game the following week vs. Atlanta, Oct. 22...Tied his career high in tackles with six (four solo) vs. St. Louis, Dec. 24...Started both playoff games and recorded four tackles (three solo).

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/play...m?playerid=124

BlackandBlue · 07-14-2005, 07:28 PM

Now I don't like you that much.

No, I'm not wrong, I've already burnt through my two this year, and that's the cap.

I watched both play during their rookie seasons, you can throw stats around all you want to on this one, you will not change my mind. It is unfair to compare them based on stats, since Howard STARTED ALL 16 GAMES HIS ROOKIE SEASON, Smith was rotated. And I never said that Howard DIDN'T have a good year. But for what he had to work with, Smith matured faster in his ability than Howard did.

EDIT: FYI- "Your" is the possessive form of you. "You're" is the contraction of "you" and "are"- it is imperative that you get this right.

I've been the biggest Howard fan on this site for a long time, why would I say these things if I didn't believe them???

along · 07-14-2005, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

Now I don't like you that much.

No, I'm not wrong, I've already burnt through my two this year, and that's the cap.

I watched both play during their rookie seasons, you can throw stats around all you want to on this one, you will not change my mind. It is unfair to compare them based on stats, since Howard STARTED ALL 16 GAMES HIS ROOKIE SEASON, Smith was rotated. And I never said that Howard DIDN'T have a good year. But for what he had to work with, Smith matured faster in his ability than Howard did.

EDIT: FYI- "Your" is the possessive form of you. "You're" is the contraction of "you" and "are"- it is imperative that you get this right.
I've been the biggest Howard fan on this site for a long time, why would I say these things if I didn't believe them???

Your World Dude!

The reason Smith is in rotated is because
he is not good enough to play ahead Howard.
As you know Howard started in his rookie year,
if Howard hadn't got hurt last year Smith
would have never got in rotated.

BlackandBlue · 07-14-2005, 08:42 PM

Am I crazy, or is this guy completely missing the point?

along · 07-14-2005, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

Am I crazy, or is this guy completely missing the point?

No, Just want to see how far you will
go with this.

Because you is strange.

8)

07-14-2005, 04:36 PM	#23
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07-14-2005, 04:58 PM	#24
along 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 190	Darren Howard is the best DE we have and stats don't have nothing to do with it!!!!
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07-14-2005, 07:18 PM	#26
along 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 190	Originally Posted by BlackandBlue A flute without holes is not a flute. A donut without holes is a danish. Oh, and, I like the new guy's take on our defensive ends. But that would be right now. Smith made greater strides as a rookie than Howard did, so I'm anxious to see what he can do on a fulltime basis. Your wrong...Howard had an awesome rookie year. And Smith will be a one great in time!!! 2000 - Finished third on team with a club rookie-record 11 sacks for minus-62 yards, 53 tackles (32 solo), an interception for 46 yards, nine pass defenses, two forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries...Started all 16 games at LDE and both playoff games...Shattered DE Renaldo Turnbull's previous record for sacks by a rookie (nine-1990) with his 11-sack performance...Also led all NFL rookies in sacks and was named to several All-Rookie teams...Was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for September after compiling 14 tackles (six solo), three sacks for minus-18 yards, a forced fumble, and two passes defensed...Registered first forced fumble of his career at the New Orleans 39 yard line, stopping a Lion scoring drive, vs. Detroit, Sept. 3...Recorded his first two NFL sacks at San Diego, Sept. 10...Posted sacks in three consecutive games: Sept. 24, vs. Philadelphia; at Chicago, Oct. 8; vs. Carolina, Oct. 15...Had a solo tackle, five assisted tackles, a pass defensed, and first career interception return for 46 yards, which he fumbled at the one-yard line, narrowly missing a touchdown at Carolina, Nov. 12...Had three solo tackles, two assisted tackles, a sack for minus-eight yards, and one pass defensed vs. Oakland, Nov. 19...Had three solo tackles, an assisted tackle, a sack for minus-5 yards, two passes defensed and a fumble recovery in win at St. Louis, Nov. 26...Had two solo tackles and a sack for minus-9 yards vs. Denver, Dec. 3, tying Turnbull's rookie record for sacks...Broke the record the following week at San Francisco, Dec. 10, with a sack for minus-9 yards...Had sack in his sixth consecutive game the following week vs. Atlanta, Oct. 22...Tied his career high in tackles with six (four solo) vs. St. Louis, Dec. 24...Started both playoff games and recorded four tackles (three solo). http://www.neworleanssaints.com/play...m?playerid=124
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07-14-2005, 07:28 PM	#27
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Now I don't like you that much. No, I'm not wrong, I've already burnt through my two this year, and that's the cap. I watched both play during their rookie seasons, you can throw stats around all you want to on this one, you will not change my mind. It is unfair to compare them based on stats, since Howard STARTED ALL 16 GAMES HIS ROOKIE SEASON, Smith was rotated. And I never said that Howard DIDN'T have a good year. But for what he had to work with, Smith matured faster in his ability than Howard did. EDIT: FYI- "Your" is the possessive form of you. "You're" is the contraction of "you" and "are"- it is imperative that you get this right. I've been the biggest Howard fan on this site for a long time, why would I say these things if I didn't believe them???
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?

07-14-2005, 08:39 PM	#28
along 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 190	Originally Posted by BlackandBlue Now I don't like you that much. No, I'm not wrong, I've already burnt through my two this year, and that's the cap. I watched both play during their rookie seasons, you can throw stats around all you want to on this one, you will not change my mind. It is unfair to compare them based on stats, since Howard STARTED ALL 16 GAMES HIS ROOKIE SEASON, Smith was rotated. And I never said that Howard DIDN'T have a good year. But for what he had to work with, Smith matured faster in his ability than Howard did. EDIT: FYI- "Your" is the possessive form of you. "You're" is the contraction of "you" and "are"- it is imperative that you get this right. I've been the biggest Howard fan on this site for a long time, why would I say these things if I didn't believe them??? Your World Dude! The reason Smith is in rotated is because he is not good enough to play ahead Howard. As you know Howard started in his rookie year, if Howard hadn't got hurt last year Smith would have never got in rotated.
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07-14-2005, 03:22 PM	#21
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	You take drugs, Danny? Every day. Good. Then what's your problem?

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07-14-2005, 03:57 PM	#22
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	... you absolutely can have a conversation about football without statistics... ... can you quantify with stats a Barry Sanders run? ... can you quantify with stats Joe Montana's leadership, running the winning drive in the Superbowl? ... can you quantify with stats a Dome Patrol pass rush? ... can you quantify with stats The Immaculate Reception? ... can you quantify Brooks' smile after an interception? ... can you quantify with stats the look of confusion in Tebucky's face after he was caught out of position yet again? ... can you quantify with stats the illness to our stomach when you see the 2-TE formation? ... oh, it goes on and on...

07-14-2005, 06:09 PM	#25
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	A flute without holes is not a flute. A donut without holes is a danish. Oh, and, I like the new guy's take on our defensive ends. But that would be right now. Smith made greater strides as a rookie than Howard did, so I'm anxious to see what he can do on a fulltime basis.

07-14-2005, 08:42 PM	#29
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Am I crazy, or is this guy completely missing the point?

07-14-2005, 09:00 PM	#30
along 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 190	Originally Posted by BlackandBlue Am I crazy, or is this guy completely missing the point? No, Just want to see how far you will go with this. Because you is strange. 8)
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