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K Major 08-25-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 852235)
Grayson takes Ted Ginn Jr's spot on the roster.

Better learn the route tree first. World class speed does you no good if you can't be where you supposed to be when the ball is delivered.

Ginn is going no where.

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852249)
Better learn the route tree first. World class speed does you no good if you can't be where you supposed to be when the ball is delivered.

Ginn is going no where.

Well this is the last season by contract for Ginn, and he's 34 now; so someone will need to assume that Devery Henderson/Brandon Cooks role of taking the top off the defense...

I'd think Grayson would be a great choice as he could add to his route tree as he develops...

And if it's not Grayson, it's highly probably it'll be someone not named Ginn next season; that's why I was a fan of drafting Mecole Hardeman, KC's selection...

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 12:19 PM

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I like Grayson to spend a year on the practice squad. He won’t be snatched up if we try to stash him there... He’s not a hot commodity.

K Major 08-25-2019 12:26 PM

Re: What we learned in Saints' preseason win over Jets
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852255)
Well this is the last season by contract for Ginn, and he's 34 now; so someone will need to assume that Devery Henderson/Brandon Cooks role of taking the top off the defense...

I'd think Grayson would be a great choice as he could add to his route tree as he develops...

Someone will definitely need to STEP UP in 2020.

Carr, Kirkwood, and Smith had most of the season, last year, to prove themselves without Ginn. They couldn't.

Big shoes to fill once Ginn walks into the sunset.

cmike 08-25-2019 01:44 PM

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PRob didn’t look good at all.

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 02:41 PM

Re: What we learned in Saints' preseason win over Jets
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852262)
Someone will definitely need to STEP UP in 2020.

Carr, Kirkwood, and Smith had most of the season, last year, to prove themselves without Ginn. They couldn't.

Big shoes to fill once Ginn walks into the sunset.

Three years, that's how long most receivers really need to be at full-on speed; for example, Lance Moore didn't come in right away and be a legit threat until year 3...

Each WR has his own style, but with the number of guys we've got, we can rotate them, keep 'em fresh, and throw different looks to keep defenses honest...

A WR drafted in the third round and up should come in and contribute right away, first rounders should be just-add-water starters; so considering what we've got invested, all these young guys are hits in my book...

K Major 08-25-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852284)
A WR drafted in the third round and up should come in and contribute right away, first rounders should be just-add-water starters; so considering what we've got invested, all these young guys are hits in my book...[/B]

Agreed on the first part.

Trequan Smith just doesn't look like he wants it out there ... at least not last night. Outside of the Redskins and Philly games, I've yet to see any consistent production from him.

For comparison I've watched Cowboys WR Michael Gallup (selected a few picks before Tre in 2018 draft) dominate this pre season and also in actual games with lesser talent throwing him the ball.

Tre needs to get it together. No excuses.

dam1953 08-25-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852288)
Agreed on the first part.

Trequan Smith just doesn't look like he wants it out there ... at least not last night. Outside of the Redskins and Philly games, I've yet to see any consistent production from him.

For comparison I've watched Cowboys WR Michael Gallup (selected a few picks before Tre in 2018 draft) dominate this pre season and also in actual games with lesser talent throwing him the ball.

Tre needs to get it together. No excuses.

I think it may be a between the ears issue. If he can't make the right reads and get on the same page as Brees, he's going to hesitate and play slow. Not that he doesn't want it. He may not be able to get it. A lot of the Central FL highlights I saw were of the - go long and go up for the ball. The Saints O is a few orders of magnitude more complex than that.

rezburna 08-25-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 852200)
The Colts have a really good team. Teddy is better than Brissett and it's not even close. The Saints probably couldn't get anything to help this years team. That is a negative. But, Teddy would get more/extra money from the Colts. He would get to start. The Saints would get more value than when Teddy leaves for nothing. And, the main thing that's driving my opinion is I honestly just love what Hill brings to the position. I believe he should be the backup. I have complete confidence in his abilities to lead the Saints to victories.

You’re vastly underestimating Jacoby Brissett.

TheOak 08-25-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852214)
Our offensive line is a ticking time bomb


That is your way of saying they are explosive isn't it? :bng:

Good on ya!


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