What we learned in Saints' preseason win over Jets

Utah_Saint · 08-26-2019, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Have been thinking the same thing; Tre'Quan was drafted on Day 2 to make Ginn and his poor route-running expendable - Payton has called Ginn out on a number of occasions since he got here for not being in the right place (route)...

Tre'Quan has flashed in camp, so maybe it's time for even more opportunities ...

In light of what we've seen from the other new kids, I'm inclined to change my roster projection (best guess) to the Saints moving Ginn and keeping:

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 18 - Keith Kirkwood

Having Grayson gives us a legit speed threat, even if he's running just limited deep routes

Grayson has shown reliable hands, and you can see defenders get way back as he lines up against them knowing that speed it coming...

I just can't see them keeping Carr over Ginn. I was really excited when we got Carr a couple years ago. I thought he'd slip right into the Moore/Snead role of being that possession receiver who always gets 8 yards when you need 7, but it's been 2 years now and I just haven't seen it. Ginn, on the other hand was playing really well last season before he got hurt. Last season Ginn was only active in 5 games and had 17 receptions, Carr was active in 14 games and had only had 9 receptions. So unless there's been some huge drop off in Ginn's performance in training camp, that no one reported, I just don't see it happening.

K Major · 08-27-2019, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Last season Ginn was only active in 5 games and had 17 receptions, Carr was active in 14 games and had only had 9 receptions. So unless there's been some huge drop off in Ginn's performance in training camp, that no one reported, I just don't see it happening.

^^^ This ^^^.

Thought I was the only one seeing this last season.

I understand Carr is a SP guy (so was Tommy Lee) but he's had very little production/impact in New Orleans. We need more chain movers & guys not named Thomas/Kamara to step up in games.

Carr is definitely a bubble guy for me.

08-26-2019, 11:45 PM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: What we learned in Saints' preseason win over Jets Originally Posted by jeanpierre Have been thinking the same thing; Tre'Quan was drafted on Day 2 to make Ginn and his poor route-running expendable - Payton has called Ginn out on a number of occasions since he got here for not being in the right place (route)... Tre'Quan has flashed in camp, so maybe it's time for even more opportunities ... In light of what we've seen from the other new kids, I'm inclined to change my roster projection (best guess) to the Saints moving Ginn and keeping: WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019) WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 18 - Keith Kirkwood Having Grayson gives us a legit speed threat, even if he's running just limited deep routes Grayson has shown reliable hands, and you can see defenders get way back as he lines up against them knowing that speed it coming... I just can't see them keeping Carr over Ginn. I was really excited when we got Carr a couple years ago. I thought he'd slip right into the Moore/Snead role of being that possession receiver who always gets 8 yards when you need 7, but it's been 2 years now and I just haven't seen it. Ginn, on the other hand was playing really well last season before he got hurt. Last season Ginn was only active in 5 games and had 17 receptions, Carr was active in 14 games and had only had 9 receptions. So unless there's been some huge drop off in Ginn's performance in training camp, that no one reported, I just don't see it happening. K Major likes this.

08-27-2019, 08:19 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,826 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What we learned in Saints' preseason win over Jets Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Last season Ginn was only active in 5 games and had 17 receptions, Carr was active in 14 games and had only had 9 receptions. So unless there's been some huge drop off in Ginn's performance in training camp, that no one reported, I just don't see it happening. ^^^ This ^^^. Thought I was the only one seeing this last season. I understand Carr is a SP guy (so was Tommy Lee) but he's had very little production/impact in New Orleans. We need more chain movers & guys not named Thomas/Kamara to step up in games. Carr is definitely a bubble guy for me. Rugby Saint II and dam1953 like this.