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Cruize 08-26-2019 02:40 PM

Final 53
 
QB - Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB - Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB - Line
WR - Thomas, Smith, Ginn, Carr, Butler, Harris
TE - Cook, Hill, Arnold
OT - Armstead, Ramczyk, Ola
OG - Peat, Warford, Clapp, Tom
C - McCoy, Easton

K - Lutz
P - Morstead
LS - Wood

DE - Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Edwards
DT - Onyemata, Brown, Stallworth, Williams
LB - Anzalone, Davis, Klein, Robertson, Ellis, Biegel
CB - Lattimore, Apple, Williams, Crawley, Hardee
S - Bell, Williams, Gardner-Johnson, Gray, Banjo

Mack, Hampton, Grayson, Gustin, Tuttle, Greenidge, Kaufusi and Kelly to the PS.

-The health of Robertson and Biegel could shake that up.
-Ola and Easton aren't locks. Neither are good.
-I think they roll the dice with Butler over Kirkwood. Kirkwood has been injured and looks to have peaked. Butler has a larger upside.
-Harris is not a lock but he could be that x factor that wins a game or two.
-Haven't seen enough from Mack or Hampton to be worthy of a roster spot.
-Never cared for Robinson. He played well in Philly's magical season. That's it. Crawley can cover outside better and Hardee is a special teams ace.
-Would like to see Humphrey make the PS but I think someone like Houston, Tennessee or Miami will take a chance on him.
-Derby deserves to make the team but they will stick with Arnold.

K Major 08-26-2019 03:01 PM

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^^ No interest in developing Jordan Humphrey/Simmie Cobbs? Or do you assume he'll be poached by another teams practice squad?

SmashMouth 08-26-2019 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852396)
^^ No interest in developing Jordan Humphrey/Simmie Cobbs? Or do you assume he'll be poached by another teams practice squad?

An embarrassment of riches makes them PS candidates.

Not sure Ginn makes the cut this year.

saintsfan1976 08-26-2019 03:32 PM

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Only 3 RB make the final roster. Ozig to PS
Lose a G, add a LB (fear of C Robinson injury)
I want Patrick Robinson on the roster instead of Crawley (and don't forget we signed K Webster)

cmike 08-26-2019 04:01 PM

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Payton loves guys who can catch out of the backfield. Ozigbo does that really well.

CheramieIII 08-26-2019 05:13 PM

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The Wizard of Oz makes it!

K Major 08-26-2019 05:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 852400)
An embarrassment of riches makes them PS candidates.

Not sure Ginn makes the cut this year.

Savvy vet Ted Ginn cut ? Who replaces him Smash? A unproven, undrafted WR? He missed 7+ games last year, came back clutch late in the season and into the playoffs. Outside of Mike and JCook, there is no safety net to run precise routes, separate and make plays consistently.

I just don't see how he's cut ... not this year.

The Dude 08-26-2019 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 852392)
QB - Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB - Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB - Line
WR - Thomas, Smith, Ginn, Carr, Butler, Harris
TE - Cook, Hill, Arnold
OT - Armstead, Ramczyk, Ola
OG - Peat, Warford, Clapp, Tom
C - McCoy, Easton

K - Lutz
P - Morstead
LS - Wood

DE - Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Edwards
DT - Onyemata, Brown, Stallworth, Williams
LB - Anzalone, Davis, Klein, Robertson, Ellis, Biegel
CB - Lattimore, Apple, Williams, Crawley, Hardee
S - Bell, Williams, Gardner-Johnson, Gray, Banjo

Mack, Hampton, Grayson, Gustin, Tuttle, Greenidge, Kaufusi and Kelly to the PS.

-The health of Robertson and Biegel could shake that up.
-Ola and Easton aren't locks. Neither are good.
-I think they roll the dice with Butler over Kirkwood. Kirkwood has been injured and looks to have peaked. Butler has a larger upside.
-Harris is not a lock but he could be that x factor that wins a game or two.
-Haven't seen enough from Mack or Hampton to be worthy of a roster spot. Guido is qweer
-Never cared for Robinson. He played well in Philly's magical season. That's it. Crawley can cover outside better and Hardee is a special teams ace.
-Would like to see Humphrey make the PS but I think someone like Houston, Tennessee or Miami will take a chance on him.
-Derby deserves to make the team but they will stick with Arnold.

Derby keeps doing what he is doing and Arnold drops another pass I can see Derby making it over Arnold.
I don’t think it’s that Easton isnt good but McCoy is better than expected. Easton will be excellent backup and he can play other positions if he has to around week 6 when Armstead goes down.

No way in hell Humphrey, Ozigbo, or Cobbs makes it to PS
Anzalone to IR or PUP.

Cruize 08-27-2019 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852396)
^^ No interest in developing Jordan Humphrey/Simmie Cobbs? Or do you assume he'll be poached by another teams practice squad?

I love Humphrey. I think the staff loves Butler. Cobbs is NFL average at best. He can find a roster spot in the NFL. Just not with the Saints.

Cruize 08-27-2019 08:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 852400)
An embarrassment of riches makes them PS candidates.

Not sure Ginn makes the cut this year.

The Saints won't take that type of leap this year. Ginn is proven. He's reliable. He's a big play guy. Smith and Kirkwood flashed last year. Then, they disappeared. The young guys don't have to be great. But, they have to be consistent. I mean, it's going to be Thomas, Kamara and Cook seeing 75 percent of the targets.

Beastmode 08-27-2019 08:36 AM

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Cons with cutting Ginn are cap hit and loss of experience. He might not be able to stretch the field like Grayson and Harris but he's probably not that much slower, even at his age. I don't think he makes it the whole season though. Trucking down the field at 34 seldom works out.

Cruize 08-27-2019 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 852404)
Only 3 RB make the final roster. Ozig to PS
Lose a G, add a LB (fear of C Robinson injury)
I want Patrick Robinson on the roster instead of Crawley (and don't forget we signed K Webster)

-Ozigo makes the 53.
-I can lose Easton because he has played poorly. But, he's versatile.
-I could see one of the LB's going to IR. I don't feel Jumper or the rest on the roster are worthy of a roster spot.
-It was a small sample, but the Saints played better after Robinson got hurt. He's shown me nothing to reverse my opinion of his play.
-If Lattimore or Apple goes down, Crawley is the best on the roster to fill in on the outside.
-Webster = Camp body.

Cruize 08-27-2019 08:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852426)
Derby keeps doing what he is doing and Arnold drops another pass I can see Derby making it over Arnold.
I don’t think it’s that Easton isnt good but McCoy is better than expected. Easton will be excellent backup and he can play other positions if he has to around week 6 when Armstead goes down.

No way in hell Humphrey, Ozigbo, or Cobbs makes it to PS
Anzalone to IR or PUP.

-Anzalone can't be put on PUP.
-Ozigbo would ABSOLUTELY get claimed. Humphrey should get claimed. Cobbs is just average at best.

K Major 08-27-2019 08:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 852491)
-Anzalone can't be put on PUP.
-Ozigbo would ABSOLUTELY get claimed. Humphrey should get claimed. Cobbs is just average at best.

Coach him up! Remember he was just a un drafted rookie in 2018.

https://saintsreport.com/attachments...am-png.121960/

Lord_Saint83 08-27-2019 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852493)
Coach him up! Remember he was just a un drafted rookie in 2018.

https://saintsreport.com/attachments...am-png.121960/

Idk K, i don't think the kid has the goods. I think Humphrey has more potential than Cobbs.

Rugby Saint II 08-28-2019 02:50 PM

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My biggest concern is back up tackle. Ola is the weakest player on the roster to me. I don't want to see my QB go down or have to chuck it away because of pressure. I've gotten to watch some film and read the stats now and I'm not inspired with any player after our starters.

neugey 08-29-2019 02:17 PM

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What's up with Sherels? Is he not up to par?

K Major 08-29-2019 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 852704)
What's up with Sherels? Is he not up to par?

Undisclosed injury. I'm not even sure he suits up tonight.

Beastmode 08-29-2019 03:02 PM

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Sherels is gone. Decent returner but nothing else. Ozigbo will be backing up Kamara by the end of the season. Murray will be traded in week 5. He likes to run out of bounds and his receiving skills are weak.

The Dude 08-29-2019 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 852626)
My biggest concern is back up tackle. Ola is the weakest player on the roster to me. I don't want to see my QB go down or have to chuck it away because of pressure. I've gotten to watch some film and read the stats now and I'm not inspired with any player after our starters.

They do some shuffling around and Easton should be more than capable. After all when we signed him to replace Unger people here were saying “ there will be little drop off if any”. Kind of like they said when we signed Murray... I’m still waiting on him to show me something.

The Dude 08-29-2019 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 852708)
Sherels is gone. Decent returner but nothing else. Ozigbo will be backing up Kamara by the end of the season. Murray will be traded in week 5. He likes to run out of bounds and his receiving skills are weak.

It wouldn’t completely surprise me if Murray didn’t make the cut. Either that or they put him on IR with a designation to return. If they can do that.
I agree on Sherels. To much of an upside to Harris. Unless he fumbles tonight he makes the team.

Beastmode 08-29-2019 09:07 PM

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Ozigbo is real. A bigger pass catching RB. Only thing he lacks is speed but so what. We don't need him to hit home runs.

Murray is hurt. He played a little but he is hurt and the season has not started. I wish that was not reality but no way he goes the distance at his age. He's older than Ingram and not nearly as good.

ChrisXVI 08-29-2019 09:10 PM

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Offense (25)
QB- 9 Brees, 5 Bridgewater, 7 Hill
HB- 41 Kamara, 28 Murray, 27 Washington, 32 Ozigbo
FB- 42 Line
WR- 13 Thomas, 19 Ginn, 10 Smith, 18 Kirkwood, 11 Harris
TE- 87 Cook, 89 Hill, 81 Derby, 85 Arnold
LT- 72 Armstead, 70 Ola
LG- 75 Peat, 62 Easton
C- 78 McCoy, 63 Tom
RG- 67 Warford
RT- 71 Ramczyk

Defense (25)
LDE- 94 Jordan, 50 Horton
3T- 98 Rankins, 93 Onyemata, 97 Edwards
NT- 90 Brown, 95 Stallworth
RDE- 92 Davenport, 91 Hendrickson
SLB- 53 Klein, 59 Biegel
MLB- 47 Anzalone, 55 Elliss
WLB- 56 Davis, 52 Robertson
CB- 23 Lattimore, 25 Apple, 26 Williams 39 Webster, 34 Hardee
SS- 24 Bell, 22 Gardner-Johnson, 48 JT Gray
FS- 43 Williams, 31 Banjo

Special Team (3)
K- 3 Lutz
P- 6 Morstead
LS- 49 Wood

Rsanders24 08-29-2019 09:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852766)
Offense (25)
QB- 9 Brees, 5 Bridgewater, 7 Hill
HB- 41 Kamara, 28 Murray, 27 Washington, 32 Ozigbo
FB- 42 Line
WR- 13 Thomas, 19 Ginn, 10 Smith, 18 Kirkwood, 11 Harris
TE- 87 Cook, 89 Hill, 81 Derby, 85 Arnold
LT- 72 Armstead, 70 Ola
LG- 75 Peat, 62 Easton
C- 78 McCoy, 63 Tom
RG- 67 Warford
RT- 71 Ramczyk

Defense (25)
LDE- 94 Jordan, 50 Horton
3T- 98 Rankins, 93 Onyemata, 97 Edwards
NT- 90 Brown, 95 Stallworth
RDE- 92 Davenport, 91 Hendrickson
SLB- 53 Klein, 59 Biegel
MLB- 47 Anzalone, 55 Elliss
WLB- 56 Davis, 52 Robertson
CB- 23 Lattimore, 25 Apple, 26 Williams 39 Webster, 34 Hardee
SS- 24 Bell, 22 Gardner-Johnson, 48 JT Gray
FS- 43 Williams, 31 Banjo

Special Team (3)
K- 3 Lutz
P- 6 Morstead
LS- 49 Wood

Not sure Arnold makes the team....really disappointed with him this preseason. I’m not sure about Webster either...but could be wrong due to his contribution on special teams. I’m also ready to see JT Gray go...

K Major 08-29-2019 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 852772)
Not sure Arnold makes the team....really disappointed with him this preseason. I’m not sure about Webster either...but could be wrong due to his contribution on special teams. I’m also ready to see JT Gray go...

I think Sean Payton will continue to "develop" Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde aka Dan Arnold. Would be surprised to see him cut.

Beastmode 08-29-2019 10:24 PM

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Arnold is gone. Keeps making goofy mistakes. I can't believe he is still on the roster to be honest. Sharp one minute then, greasy greasy hands. Might as well get an endorsement from Crisco.

The Dude 08-29-2019 10:52 PM

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Ozigbo is our 3, probably 2 by week 4
Butler in, Kirkwood out
Carr is staying, Brees pretty much said so
I’ve been pulling for Arnold but I didn’t see Gray tonight. Might be a bad sign for Arnold.
Hopefully we can get Cobbs, Grayson, Humphrey and that other RB (brain fart) on the practice squad. Grayson is most likely candidate. Doubt the others make it that far.
It’s been a fun camp to follow.

Like how Bridgewater calls Emmanuel Butler EBay

Rsanders24 08-29-2019 10:58 PM

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Yeah...I don’t think all the WRs will make it to the PS. I’m really pulling for Humphrey to make the team. Dude is a game day baller...always has been. I wouldn’t mind Carr being gone. I think he has just about hit hos ceiling. You got the opportunity to play with Brady and Brees and still can’t crack either team as a slot WR? IDK....

The Dude 08-29-2019 11:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 852783)
Yeah...I don’t think all the WRs will make it to the PS. I’m really pulling for Humphrey to make the team. Dude is a game day baller...always has been. I wouldn’t mind Carr being gone. I think he has just about hit hos ceiling. You got the opportunity to play with Brady and Brees and still can’t crack either team as a slot WR? IDK....

Humphrey is a gamer but Butler has been more consistent in practice. Wish we could keep both but I don’t see them cutting Carr with that endorsement from Brees. I would be ok with it though. Just hate to lose 2 veterans that know the system for two newbs. I don’t see them cutting both Kirkwood and Carr.

The Dude 08-30-2019 12:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852766)
Offense (25)
QB- 9 Brees, 5 Bridgewater, 7 Hill
HB- 41 Kamara, 28 Murray, 27 Washington, 32 Ozigbo
FB- 42 Line
WR- 13 Thomas, 19 Ginn, 10 Smith, 18 Kirkwood, 11 Harris
TE- 87 Cook, 89 Hill, 81 Derby, 85 Arnold
LT- 72 Armstead, 70 Ola
LG- 75 Peat, 62 Easton
C- 78 McCoy, 63 Tom
RG- 67 Warford
RT- 71 Ramczyk

Defense (25)
LDE- 94 Jordan, 50 Horton
3T- 98 Rankins, 93 Onyemata, 97 Edwards
NT- 90 Brown, 95 Stallworth
RDE- 92 Davenport, 91 Hendrickson
SLB- 53 Klein, 59 Biegel
MLB- 47 Anzalone, 55 Elliss
WLB- 56 Davis, 52 Robertson
CB- 23 Lattimore, 25 Apple, 26 Williams 39 Webster, 34 Hardee
SS- 24 Bell, 22 Gardner-Johnson, 48 JT Gray
FS- 43 Williams, 31 Banjo

Special Team (3)
K- 3 Lutz
P- 6 Morstead
LS- 49 Wood

5 WRs?
You don’t think we will have another offensive lineman?

K Major 08-30-2019 07:08 AM

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Wait and see.

Only rookie "locks" I see is Erik McKoy and CGJ.

Everything else is a guess.

Beastmode 08-30-2019 08:20 AM

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We're keeping Ozigbo and Butler. Humprey probably gets plucked from us. A lot of teams are hurting at WR.

I see Ginn and Murray getting traded mid season to build more secondary defensive depth. Our division is going to have insane passing yards.

ChrisXVI 08-30-2019 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852789)
5 WRs?
You don’t think we will have another offensive lineman?

I’d love another OT. We just don’t have one... yet. As far as WR goes, we only have four active on game day. I don’t see us keeping 6-7 just to have guys be inactive and take up roster spots. I’m guessing that guys like Butler and Humphrey will either go on IR or the practice squad.

Cruize 08-30-2019 10:55 AM

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The Texans will snag Humphrey if he's cut. He went to college there. They are thin at WR. He's good with an upside. And, he has insight to the Saints playbook.

SmashMouth 08-30-2019 11:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 852817)
We're keeping Ozigbo and Butler. Humprey probably gets plucked from us. A lot of teams are hurting at WR.

I see Ginn and Murray getting traded mid season to build more secondary defensive depth. Our division is going to have insane passing yards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 852839)
The Texans will snag Humphrey if he's cut. He went to college there. They are thin at WR. He's good with an upside. And, he has insight to the Saints playbook.

Agreed on Lil' Jordan... he's a gamer.

Time to trade Ginn for a backup OT.

SmashMouth 08-30-2019 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Mike Triplett
ESPN Staff Writer
The Saints placed TE Garrett Griffin on injured reserve, ending his season after he left Saturday's game with an unspecified injury. A shame for Griffin, who had earned a role on the active roster last year and caught his first NFL TD pass in the NFC Championship Game. He was competing for a roster spot along with fellow backup TEs Dan Arnold, Alize' Mack and A.J. Derby.
Triplett

We should see a few more moves like this.

Beastmode 08-30-2019 11:39 AM

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Humprey, I kinda scoffed at him but the guy is a RB after the catch. He's not beating anyone in a foot race that's for sure but those 3-6 YAC is lethal. Not many WR's have that ability. If you look at his highlights, at times I swear, it looked like Deuce pushing the pile. Very hard to take down by one defender. He's one of those players that just knaws away chunks of yards.

brees84 08-30-2019 11:42 AM

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If Robertson injury is not minor then Brandon Marshall would be good replacement. Raiders just released him.

K Major 08-30-2019 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 852857)
If Robertson injury is not minor then Brandon Marshall would be good replacement. Raiders just released him.

I don't believe his over all health (knee) is where Gruden thought he'd be at this time of year.

CheramieIII 08-30-2019 02:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 852404)
Only 3 RB make the final roster. Ozig to PS
Lose a G, add a LB (fear of C Robinson injury)
I want Patrick Robinson on the roster instead of Crawley (and don't forget we signed K Webster)

I don't think the Wizard of Oz would ever make it to the PS.


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