Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year?

Rugby Saint II · 09-03-2019, 03:02 PM

If our O-line stays relatively healthy will we get separation this year with basically the same receivers?

halloween 65 · 09-03-2019, 03:11 PM

I think so with the addition of Cook it should open up nicely. Run game will need to be good to keep opposing D's off balance..The major factor will be Brees arm strength as the season gets longer.

CHA_CHING · 09-03-2019, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I think so with the addition of Cook it should open up nicely. Run game will need to be good to keep opposing D's off balance..The major factor will be Brees arm strength as the season gets longer.

Brees' health and arm strength is the biggest concern. He is 40 years old and for the final month of last season, he looked like he had fallen off a cliff. It was like late 2014 Peyton Manning with how his numbers tanked.

Our run game started to struggle last year with the o-line injuries, so that also is a concern.

TheOak · 09-03-2019, 03:39 PM

I find the evolution of this discussion interesting. Yes, Brees has had a drop in strength over the years but his accuracy is still on par and his arm strength drop has been on the long ball. We have evolved from 'he will throw them open' to ' if can they get open'.

I wont attribute all of that to his arm strength, at one time he had receivers that weren't as high of a risk when trying to throw them open.

If you look at Drew's split stats 1-7 vs 8-16 he was injured the second half, it wasn't just strength. When the line goes to ****, QBs get injured.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/spli...580/drew-brees

jeanpierre · 09-03-2019, 03:51 PM

Most, MOST, wide receivers in the NFL don't really break out effectively until their third full year in the league...

But we've one of the best pass schemes in the NFL, using WR size, with Coach Curtis' techniques, to take advantage of contemporary NFL Pass Defense Rules, using receivers' size to box out defenders...

So elite speed isn't necessary with the exception of the Flanker to hold, keep the Safety(s) back, opening the intermediate passing routes, or tearing the top of the defense off...

A really smart, prepared QB (Brees) can then make pre-snap reads and simply throw to "bucket" zones for the WR to shield off and make a catch, little faster, tighter, but essentially lobbing the ball into the paint...

jeanpierre · 09-03-2019, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I find the evolution of this discussion interesting. Yes, Brees has had a drop in strength over the years but his accuracy is still on par and his arm strength drop has been on the long ball. We have evolved from 'he will throw them open' to ' if can they get open'.

I wont attribute all of that to his arm strength, at one time he had receivers that weren't as high of a risk when trying to throw them open.

If you look at Drew's split stats 1-7 vs 8-16 he was injured the second half, it wasn't just strength. When the line goes to ****, QBs get injured.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/spli...580/drew-brees

More happened in the Dallas game than will be told in the next ten (10) years...

st thomas · 09-03-2019, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If our O-line stays relatively healthy will we get separation this year with basically the same receivers?

It’s a prove it year for me , pass MT & Cook trequan needs to blow it up. Ted G. Is a drop from out the league. Carr well still brain scratcher. Kirkwood injury prone? Maybe not. It’s why we keep so many. Now watch my little donte Harris he will get open in the playoffs. He will shake some ass up. If he’s still has 2 legs left after the real bullets start flying. Jmo.

K Major · 09-03-2019, 04:00 PM

I think Brees himself said it best @ this year's training camp ....

"Efficiency is what wins games, not arm strength".

Anyone remember Tom Brady "dink and dunk" his team all the way to the Super Bowl last season?

hitta · 09-03-2019, 04:04 PM

Tre'Quan and Kirkwood are being greatly underestimated by our fan base right now. Tre'Quan is a future All-pro and Kirkwood has some major skills. Last year was their first year. The flashes I saw in both of them made me a believer. Most of their issues last year were things I believe are easy to correct. We will have one of the best receiving cores in the league this year and our problems last year will be quickly forgotten.

hitta · 09-03-2019, 04:05 PM

Does anyone know where download links to the preseason games are?

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? I think so with the addition of Cook it should open up nicely. Run game will need to be good to keep opposing D's off balance..The major factor will be Brees arm strength as the season gets longer. saintsfan1976 and SmashMouth like this.

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? Originally Posted by halloween 65 I think so with the addition of Cook it should open up nicely. Run game will need to be good to keep opposing D's off balance..The major factor will be Brees arm strength as the season gets longer. Brees' health and arm strength is the biggest concern. He is 40 years old and for the final month of last season, he looked like he had fallen off a cliff. It was like late 2014 Peyton Manning with how his numbers tanked. Our run game started to struggle last year with the o-line injuries, so that also is a concern.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? I find the evolution of this discussion interesting. Yes, Brees has had a drop in strength over the years but his accuracy is still on par and his arm strength drop has been on the long ball. We have evolved from 'he will throw them open' to ' if can they get open'. I wont attribute all of that to his arm strength, at one time he had receivers that weren't as high of a risk when trying to throw them open. If you look at Drew's split stats 1-7 vs 8-16 he was injured the second half, it wasn't just strength. When the line goes to ****, QBs get injured. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/spli...580/drew-brees SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? Originally Posted by TheOak I find the evolution of this discussion interesting. Yes, Brees has had a drop in strength over the years but his accuracy is still on par and his arm strength drop has been on the long ball. We have evolved from 'he will throw them open' to ' if can they get open'. I wont attribute all of that to his arm strength, at one time he had receivers that weren't as high of a risk when trying to throw them open. If you look at Drew's split stats 1-7 vs 8-16 he was injured the second half, it wasn't just strength. When the line goes to **, QBs get injured. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/spli...580/drew-brees More happened in the Dallas game than will be told in the next ten (10) years...** SmashMouth likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If our O-line stays relatively healthy will we get separation this year with basically the same receivers? It’s a prove it year for me , pass MT & Cook trequan needs to blow it up. Ted G. Is a drop from out the league. Carr well still brain scratcher. Kirkwood injury prone? Maybe not. It’s why we keep so many. Now watch my little donte Harris he will get open in the playoffs. He will shake some ass up. If he’s still has 2 legs left after the real bullets start flying. Jmo.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? I think Brees himself said it best @ this year's training camp .... "Efficiency is what wins games, not arm strength". Anyone remember Tom Brady "dink and dunk" his team all the way to the Super Bowl last season? jeanpierre and Beastmode like this.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Will Our Receivers Get Separation This Year? Tre'Quan and Kirkwood are being greatly underestimated by our fan base right now. Tre'Quan is a future All-pro and Kirkwood has some major skills. Last year was their first year. The flashes I saw in both of them made me a believer. Most of their issues last year were things I believe are easy to correct. We will have one of the best receiving cores in the league this year and our problems last year will be quickly forgotten. foreverfan, jeanpierre and st thomas like this.
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