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jeanpierre 09-04-2019 04:34 PM

USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 

saintfan 09-04-2019 05:14 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Letting Ozigbo get away was a mistake.

SmashMouth 09-04-2019 05:36 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 853492)
Letting Ozigbo get away was a mistake.

Will SP admit it, though?

I thought we were through with those silly moves.

Lord_Saint83 09-04-2019 05:54 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
For the love of god please don't bring back marcus murphy

saintfan 09-04-2019 06:03 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 853493)
Will SP admit it, though?

I thought we were through with those silly moves.

I guess they took a shot that he'd end up on the PS, but that was not a smart gamble.

K Major 09-04-2019 07:15 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Due diligence.

Saints are compiling an "emergency list" ... players to put on speed dial if needed.

jeanpierre 09-04-2019 07:25 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Running Backs in today's NFL - risky to pay them long term, have a short shelf-life, and yet, still a premium even in the passing league today...

jnormand 09-04-2019 07:26 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 853493)
Will SP admit it, though?

I thought we were through with those silly moves.

My hell why would he admit it? I'm sure every coach/team has times where they missed on players. It happens. Jesus, we have Kamara. It's not like we're hurting for RBs.

Beastmode 09-04-2019 09:55 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
It was a horrible mistake. Mark my word, he will be starting for the Jags when hair burette goes down again, which he will because he has always gone down, even in college. Fournette will not play 16 games. We had a good 2nd string RB and Payton dropped him. Stupid. He'll pay for it.

The Dude 09-04-2019 10:16 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Yea I wanted Ozigbo but nothing wrong with getting familiar with as many players as you can in preparation for the worst.
I’m just hoping it’s not saying anything about Murray.
Did they sign Ozigbo to the active roster or their PS?

Beastmode 09-04-2019 10:33 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
What is going on with Murray. I see he is injured? What is wrong. Season has not even started. No way this guy makes it the distance. The screw ups. One, not re-signing Ingram. Two letting Ozigo go. So stupid. We saved almost no cash at the most critical position. Totally dumb.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 06:33 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 853516)
Yea I wanted Ozigbo but nothing wrong with getting familiar with as many players as you can in preparation for the worst.
I’m just hoping it’s not saying anything about Murray.
Did they sign Ozigbo to the active roster or their PS?

He had to be signed to their active roster for three weeks and then could be waived and signed to their practice squad. The Saints were probably hoping he'd clear waivers to be signed to their own practice squad.

And teams all across the league are bringing in waves of players, including RB's, for tryouts. It's called due diligence. They do it the same time every year and people people try to make more out of it than is there every year.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 06:36 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 853518)
What is going on with Murray. I see he is injured? What is wrong. Season has not even started. No way this guy makes it the distance. The screw ups. One, not re-signing Ingram. Two letting Ozigo go. So stupid. We saved almost no cash at the most critical position. Totally dumb.

Nothing is up with Murray. I'm not seeing where you are seeing he is injured. He's not listed at all on any injury report I have seen. Anzalone is, but Payton said he'll be ready for game one.

Ozigbo was clearly not ready for the 53 man roster. You don't want one of your roster RB's to be one that can't handle pass protection (the number one issue that haunts rookie RB's.)

TheOak 09-05-2019 06:58 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Ozigbo was let go to keep Dwayne Washington for Special Teams.. You remember Special Teams? Where we b*tch and complain each and every year that we are not very good...?

We also bi*ch and complain every year that we are splitting time between an overloaded back field...

Sean Payton saved everyone some heartache by improving special teams and eliminating the possibility that people would be screaming "put Ozigbo in" at the television on Sunday..

That's a win/win?:bng:

Beastmode 09-05-2019 07:10 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 853528)
Nothing is up with Murray. I'm not seeing where you are seeing he is injured. He's not listed at all on any injury report I have seen. Anzalone is, but Payton said he'll be ready for game one.

Ozigbo was clearly not ready for the 53 man roster. You don't want one of your roster RB's to be one that can't handle pass protection (the number one issue that haunts rookie RB's.)


We are looking at Murphy. Whenever we do that someone is hurt. And don't tell me Ozigbo can't block. Murphy is 5'8 and under 200lbs. Payton tried to get cute and Ozigbo got snatched immediately.

K Major 09-05-2019 07:53 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Payton has shown time and again that he will take experience over upside at certain positions. RB is one of those positions.

Ozigbo is a Jaguar now and that's that.

Kickoff is Monday Night fellas.

SmashMouth 09-05-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 853535)
Payton has shown time and again that he will take experience over upside at certain positions. RB is one of those positions.

Ozigbo is a Jaguar now and that's that.

Kickoff is Monday Night fellas.

Wait.... we're not signing Ozigbo from the Jags PS? NeauxFW !

/Sarcasm

K Major 09-05-2019 08:26 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 853540)
Wait.... we're not signing Ozigbo from the Jags PS? NeauxFW !

Why would we? The Saints coaching staff and Sean Payton are smart. I see talent in Ozigbo but none of us has the vision & insight as our coaches. All we see is the finished product on Sundays.

My point here is to trust the system.

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-05-2019 10:16 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 853516)
Yea I wanted Ozigbo but nothing wrong with getting familiar with as many players as you can in preparation for the worst.
I’m just hoping it’s not saying anything about Murray.
Did they sign Ozigbo to the active roster or their PS?

All waiver claims must be signed to the active roster. Only a player that clears waivers and becomes a free agent can be signed to a practice squad.

SFIAH

The Dude 09-05-2019 10:52 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
We haven’t heard anything from camp in regards to Murray aside from an injury. He played like 2 series in one preseason game which tells me they are taking it slow with him. With the Saints history of signing under performing or injured Vets/FA I don’t see why anyone would believe Murray is any different.
That’s why many are skeptical about him. I’m not saying Ozigbo is a better option for the 53 but I have a feeling we will regret losing him.

SaintsBro 09-05-2019 11:12 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Beyond the active 53, I believe that Sean Payton (and many other coaches as well) like to keep a list of phone numbers, of players sitting at home "on the couch" that are just outside the bubble of being on an NFL team's active roster or practice squad, so that they can call these guys later on in the season if the emergency need arises. You have depth at a position, running backs, or safeties, or whatever...you have room for only so many on the 53....and then you have 4 or 5 names for each on a list below that, a few journeyman type guys that you can call back in November or December and bring them in, if you get hit with the injury bug at a particular position. That's what I think is happening here.

I also think that yeah, they probably thought that Ozigbo could maybe slide his way to the practice squad without getting noticed, but he had too much exposure on film in the preaseason, and too much attention from what he did in college (he was at Nebraska after all, it's not like he went to a low profile school like Hofstra or Arkansas-Pine Bluff or University of Urbana-Champaign, like some of Payton's other classic pet "under-the-radar" projects.

Ozigbo was a lot more well-known than a lot of Payton's other diamond-in-the-rough finds, who can usually drift their way down from cuts to the practice squad without attracting any attention at all.

Beastmode 09-05-2019 11:26 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
I agree with that assessment. I also think it's going to be hard to keep a RB on the PS that is a rookie for us. It's one area we have done well in. A good pass catching RB is all the rage right now. Let's the Saints do all the work and just go take their PS RB.

Rugby Saint II 09-05-2019 11:46 AM

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What is done is done. Move on. Don't sweat the petty stuff.....pet the sweaty stuff! :p

Beastmode 09-05-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 853566)
What is done is done. Move on. Don't sweat the petty stuff.....pet the sweaty stuff! :p


From a selfish standpoint thrilled about it. He has a stronger shot of playing with the Jags. Bet he ends up spelling Fournette or filling in for him when he goes down. I drafted his as a what the heck but this scenario is much better.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 12:52 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 853558)
We haven’t heard anything from camp in regards to Murray aside from an injury. He played like 2 series in one preseason game which tells me they are taking it slow with him. With the Saints history of signing under performing or injured Vets/FA I don’t see why anyone would believe Murray is any different.
That’s why many are skeptical about him. I’m not saying Ozigbo is a better option for the 53 but I have a feeling we will regret losing him.

Many are not skeptical about Murray. You and Beastmode are skeptical, but that is par for the course. You two are skeptical about something or other all the time.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 01:19 PM

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Since 2014, Murray's first season in the NFL, he has only missed THREE (3) out of his 80 possible games. He has played in all 16 games each of the last two seasons and has never played less than 14 games in an NFL season since 2014.

Over the past half decade Murray has been one of the very most durable running backs in the NFL.

Beastmode 09-05-2019 01:29 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
You are talking out of a lower extremity point of exit. I have stated I do hope he does well. I also drafted him.

The odds of a 30 plus year old RB doing well though are awful. It RARELY happens. 29 is the common age when the mighty start to fall. I know you disagree with that but that's ok. We are going to find out if we can shake hands with danger and get away with it just like we did with the Bears WR.

WW_Who_Dat 09-05-2019 02:54 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 853581)
Since 2014, Murray's first season in the NFL, he has only missed THREE (3) out of his 80 possible games. He has played in all 16 games each of the last two seasons and has never played less than 14 games in an NFL season since 2014.

Over the past half decade Murray has been one of the very most durable running backs in the NFL.

There you stating facts again ... geez some people.

dizzle88 09-05-2019 03:00 PM

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So we cut Ozigbo and then bring in Marcus Murphy for a tryout....unreal.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 03:13 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 853595)
So we cut Ozigbo and then bring in Marcus Murphy for a tryout....unreal.

Not unreal at all. We cut Ozigbo because he wasn't good enough for the 53 man roster. He was most likely targeted for the practice squad but didn't clear waivers. That's a very common gamble this time of year. As for Murphy, he was one of ELEVEN players brought in to be tried out. EVERY team brings in a number of players after the cut to 53. That is also standard operating procedure throughout the league. Injuries always occur and having a Rolodex of possible replacements is a must. You can't try them out when they are on other team's 90 man rosters.

Beastmode 09-05-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 853593)
There you stating facts again ... geez some people.


Like him missing the entire 2013 season on IR. Amazing how that critical piece of info is scoffed at like a French king. And if he is so good why does he keep getting passed around like a lot lizard but we will see. The only real fact is RB's over 30 have a horrible track record. Only a small sample has proved that incorrect.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 853602)
Like him missing the entire 2013 season on IR. Amazing how that critical piece of info is scoffed at like a French king. And if he is so good why does he keep getting passed around like a lot lizard but we will see. The only real fact is RB's over 30 have a horrible track record. Only a small sample has proved that incorrect.

2013 was his first season, and yes he spent it on IR. But, since 2014, his first on the active roster, he has played in 77 out of 80 possible games. As for his ability, nobody is saying he is the second coming of Deuce McAllister, but that he can fill the role required with ease. It is you that keeps trashing the guy for no reason whatsoever. You even put up $20 betting that he wouldn't appear in eight games this season. Talk about negative. He's played in all 32 games the past two seasons. And now he's going to magically have the lowest attendance of his now six year NFL career?

:rolleyes:

Oh, and he isn't "over 30". In fact he won't even turn 30 until January.

The Dude 09-05-2019 04:25 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 853599)
Not unreal at all. We cut Ozigbo because he wasn't good enough for the 53 man roster. He was most likely targeted for the practice squad but didn't clear waivers. That's a very common gamble this time of year. As for Murphy, he was one of ELEVEN players brought in to be tried out. EVERY team brings in a number of players after the cut to 53. That is also standard operating procedure throughout the league. Injuries always occur and having a Rolodex of possible replacements is a must. You can't try them out when they are on other team's 90 man rosters.

Yea but the fact that half of those players were RBs is a sign that they are still not comfortable with what they have at the position . We only have 2 TE on the roster which pretty much makes it a given that they will have a third. We are banged up at LBr so that makes sense, there’s a need.
I have no reason to believe there’s not a need for another RB. I’m betting it’s a need because they aren’t comfortable with Murray.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2019 04:44 PM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 853610)
Yea but the fact that half of those players were RBs is a sign that they are still not comfortable with what they have at the position . We only have 2 TE on the roster which pretty much makes it a given that they will have a third. We are banged up at LBr so that makes sense, there’s a need.
I have no reason to believe there’s not a need for another RB. I’m betting it’s a need because they aren’t comfortable with Murray.

You're bet is full of crap. You aren't comfortable with Murray because you always have to have someone to ***** about every season. Love you, Dude, but it IS how you roll. The most replaced position during the season are RB's and CB's. Of course you look at everyone possible. The more likely replacement would be for Washington at RB3.

And I think we already have TE3 on the roster in Taysom Hill. He saves a roster spot ... or two or more ... because of his versatility.

Beastmode 09-05-2019 05:38 PM

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He's closer to 30 than 29. He will be over 30 if we make the playoffs and SB. The wheels start falling off at 29. The odds of him making the entire season are very slim. Same will happen to Ingram. Justice Hill and Gus are going to run him out of town before week 5. He'll get traded mid season.

st thomas 09-06-2019 08:08 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 853492)
Letting Ozigbo get away was a mistake.



I’ve been biting my tongue since this I’m pissed wtf were we thinking . Now we’re doing try outs for rbs Payton can kiss my ass on this one. Sorry if it irks anyone.

st thomas 09-06-2019 08:31 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 853599)
Not unreal at all. We cut Ozigbo because he wasn't good enough for the 53 man roster. He was most likely targeted for the practice squad but didn't clear waivers. That's a very common gamble this time of year. As for Murphy, he was one of ELEVEN players brought in to be tried out. EVERY team brings in a number of players after the cut to 53. That is also standard operating procedure throughout the league. Injuries always occur and having a Rolodex of possible replacements is a must. You can't try them out when they are on other team's 90 man rosters.



Well he didn’t have to try out for the the jags he on the 53. We have a third rb that just got cold cocked in last preseason game and we let a legitimate rb go that went thru a whole training camp and now we’re bringing in try outs for the practice squad. I know there’s more to it so save the analytic bs. Ozigbo probably mumbled something back at Patton and he was out the door.

WW_Who_Dat 09-06-2019 10:34 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
Same discussion and positions taken last year with Boston Scott ... OMG the entire coaching staff missed ... OMG he was picked up ... 2019 cut not in the game.

I think Ozigbo was just below Washington on the depth charts and coach went with the best all around fit and special teams contribution was the deciding factor.

Ozigbo definitely has it sorry it didn't work out ... playing to win THIS YEAR.

st thomas 09-06-2019 10:57 AM

Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints work out former RB Marcus Murphy, 11 free agents in tryouts
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 853655)
Same discussion and positions taken last year with Boston Scott ... OMG the entire coaching staff missed ... OMG he was picked up ... 2019 cut not in the game.

I think Ozigbo was just below Washington on the depth charts and coach went with the best all around fit and special teams contribution was the deciding factor.

Ozigbo definitely has it sorry it didn't work out ... playing to win THIS YEAR.



Yes Washington held his own against 3rd stringers but couldn’t catch a cold in Alaska and in Payton offense this is a head scratcher to me anyway and zigbo fumbled . Washington’s a pounder zigbo a slasher they both have there good with the bad and Washington’s a special team need. Zigbo needed another year to get in on that.

WillMacKenzie 09-06-2019 11:31 AM

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