Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

Can we get to 4-4 with Teddy or Taysom at QB?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...out-six-weeks/

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

If they can establish some type of tempo and chemistry /rhythm on offense maybe. I don’t know if taking a dual QB approach would help or hurt that.
TB just doesn’t seem to be able to give that spark players need to come together

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

Regardless of who we go with at QB, we need to run the ball better. Even Brees wasn’t going to do well with a lack of a running game and it’s looked bad these first 2 weeks.

We need to establish the run... 10-6 is still possible

Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees tore a ligament in the thumb on his injured throwing hand vs. the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday and will miss the next six weeks, a source confirmed to The Times-Picayune | New Orleans Advocate.

Brees will have surgery to repair the damage, the source said.

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport first reported the news.

The specific ligament torn is the ulnar collateral ligament in his thumb, according to a report from former NFL team doctor David Chao.

Brees said after the game that he felt it immediately and couldn't grip the ball, adding that he's never had a harder time gripping a football in his career.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...ize=1024%2C683

"This felt like something a bit more significant and prevented me from gripping the ball," Brees said, adding later that he was concerned.

The schedule for the Saints (1-1) over the next several weeks includes games at Seattle, vs. Dallas, vs. Tampa, at Jacksonville, at Chicago and vs. Arizona.

NOLA

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

:flush: the next 6 weeks!

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

10-6 is this team's ceiling and was their ceiling before the year started. They have serious issues that run deeper than the QB position. Brees has been masking this team's flaws and weaknesses for quite some time.

We'll be lucky to go 7-9 now.

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I think Teddy will be given some time as the starter... the next 2 games are his (we will lose both), then pressure will mount for Hill to start.

Either way, if we can be a run first team we could go 4-4. In our division 4-4 might not be a bad start lol

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

10-6 wasn’t the ceiling with Brees... lol

We could have gone 13-3 easily. The schedule gets soft after these first 4 games.

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Completely disagree. Defense regressing a bit and still having issues on offense would've prevented 13-3.

It was a miracle they got to 13-3 last year with how bad they looked in December. They haven't looked the same since then. It's beginning to remind me of the Packers collapse with Aaron Rodgers. They were 12-4 and looked like a contender even after losing the NFCCG to Seattle. Started 5-0 in 2015 and then it was all downhill after that Broncos game.

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

Monday morning QBing is so easy...

It was a miracle we weren’t champs last year, but because of 1 bad call by the refs we would have been the best team (at least in the NFC, could have beat the pats). What games last year do you think we were lucky to win?

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

The run didn't look bad week 1

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

More like 8 weeks. The minimum on that injury with surgery is 6-8 weeks.
They'll probably put Drew on IR and reactivate him after the Bye week. Season is toast.

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Sorry about the news on Brees. Nobody likes to see NFL players hurt. Especially first ballot HOF’s. Hopefully he will be back for our game. Won’t be the same classic battle without Brees on the field. Speedy recovery Mr. Brees.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Bring in Cyril Grayson

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We didn't lose to the Rams in the NFCCG because of one bad call. We wouldn't have even been in that position had they played better and not let that team come back from a 13-0 and 20-10 hole. We even had a chance in OT and immediately turned the ball over on one possession. Of the final 4 teams in the conference tile games last year, our offense had the worst stat numbers across the board. That game went very similar to the Pittsburgh game where we just struggled the entire second half and couldn't do much. It was like we had the Rams at the edge of a cliff and just couldn't shove them down, letting them hang around long enough to come back.

Something else about the non-call that only Troy Aikman of all people seemed to get - if Nickel-Robey had been watching the ball and not trying to commit PI, it's most likely an interception. I noticed it upon re-watching the clip repeatedly. The pass to Ginn that set us up, also was nearly intercepted. We weren't playing all that well against the Rams that day. That's why I don't blame it all on the refs. We looked beatable all throughout that game. 2 dropped TDs in the end zone prevented us from going up 17-0 early and that most likely would've turned it into a blow out.

I don't think we would've beat the Pats. People were underselling how good that Pats team truly was last year. I remember when everyone was picking the Chargers and then acted shocked when the Pats wiped the floor with them. Their defense was underrated all year long and only the writers at FiveThirtyEight got this. Every team ran the same gameplan that Dallas had against us and NE definitely had the personnel to have taken away Thomas and Kamara and made life hell for us. The Pats completely shut down Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce when they played K.C, who was in much better shape than us at the end of the year. On the flip side; NE has already proven they can dismantle Dennis Allen's zone scheme defense. The Rams took advantage of our secondary that struggled with physical receivers. Gronk and Edleman would've had a field day.

People put too much stock into the Pats being held to 13 points in the SB. Wade Phillips has a history of giving the Pats offense issues. His defenses usually hold them below 24 points. Brady has had some ugly games against Wade's defenses. Dennis Allen isn't on the same level as Wade and he runs a zone defense scheme. Brady has posted some of his career best games against zone. That's part of the reason he usually puts up such great numbers against Pittsburgh, they like to run zone against the Pats and get slaughtered.

I wanted the Chiefs in the SB. I was never confident about facing the Pats, mainly cause of their defense and how bad we looked at the end of the year. I think we could've beat the Chiefs or any other AFC team. Bill B would've just ran the same gameplan Dallas did against us but would've had the right personnel to hold us down.

Cleveland - Give up a hail mary type pass in the final seconds. Browns also helped us by missing a bunch of field goals. Usually we lose these types of games, but thankfully we won.

Tampa Bay - We were getting whipped in this game until the big blocked punt set us up for a quick TD score and getting back into it. Defense spent this whole game carrying us and eventually we got it together and won. It helped that we were able to adjust and run the ball heavily in the second half.

Carolina - Defense 100% carried us in this game. Again, we usually lose these type of low scoring games where the offense is shut down, but we got through this one.

Pittsburgh - Defense again, carried us the entire second half. We went from dominating Pittsburgh in the first half, to not being able to do anything in the second half. And yet despite the defense's masterful performance, we don't get that last TD to win the game if not for the controversial PI call on Joe Haden. This was a game where everything had to go our way to barely squeak it out, but it looked like we were going to blow them out early on.

Philly - Seriously... if Jeffrey don't drop that pass and they score on that final drive, everyone would be questioning some of the WTF play calling in that game from Payton. This game has always bothered me cause statistically, it looks like a blowout when you look at the numbers... yet we barely scored 20 points and let Philly hang around all game. The defense held them below 90 yards after they went up 14-0. This was on the offense for constantly shooting themselves in the foot with boneheaded penalties and early on, we didn't run the ball when Brees was struggling.

Something has been wrong with this offense for a while now. They haven't been the same since November. We've only scored 30 points in 2 games since then (Pittsburgh last year and Houston last week) and yet even in both of those games, they struggled to score TDs. This has become an ongoing issue since the Cowboys loss, hence why it makes me feel like the Packers downfall they lost to Denver a few years ago. GB and Rodgers haven't been the same since that game.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Classy post, Caddieman. :cheering:

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

We need to start adjusting the offense to the strengths and weaknesses of Teddy B right now.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Has anybody considered thY Drew's hand might now preform the same after the surgery?

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

How do you teach Teddy pocket presence? :confused:

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

If Dr. Shin says it'll be 6 weeks, it will most probably be 6 weeks. He uses newer techniques to reinforce the ligament. Guys get back much quicker.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

You move the pocket and give him simpler reads like Lamar Jackson. Make the league have to adjust to something from the Saints they aren’t used to. RPO’s
and ****.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

If we don't let Hill play IMO the season is over. We have to win at least 3 of the next 6 too have s shot and after yesterday I don't see that happening with unready teddy at the helm.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Teddy will have a full week of planning, preparation and film study with the 1's.

I know Taysom is a "fan favorite" but Sean isn't starting him at the QB position. Teddy will be that guy. He has been coached & has practiced to be the #2 for over a year now.

Taysom simply isn't ready to be a full time QB. Not the popular opinion but it's the truth.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Can we play Kiko? Anzalone is looking real Shakey so far this year

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Kiko actually came in briefly for Klein (injury) on yesterday.

I think he got 2 snaps.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

How is that the “truth”? What logically brings you to that conclusion (truth=\= opinion).

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

This is the very first time I’ve felt like we should’ve taken Lamar Jackson when we traded up for Davenport.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Sean P has made it clear since he re signed in NO & subsequent camp, he will give Teddy every opportunity to succeed at QB. Not my words but his. Not an opinion.

Payton (go back and listen at his post Rams game report) has shown he will play the guys he thinks earned it and will help the team. When you see less of Taysom on special teams, WR etc, then we can come to the conclusion they are ready to give him a shot exclusively at QB.

Until then, Taysom is still your gadget/swiss army knife guy.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

I get you, however I think that's heavily based on the short term success of Jackson and the fact that Davenport is a non factor at the minute.

I think Jackson will get sussed out sooner or later, the fact that Davenport is being outplayed by Hendrickson is worrying though. How did he look so promising last year and so invisible this year.

Re: Brees out roughly 6 weeks
 

I thought 12-4 was possible. That was if we could beat Seattle (or LA). I had wins against Dallas, Jacksonville, and Arizona in this stretch. Now with Brees hurt, we could lose one of those (or all if TB can't hack it). I actually had us at 5-3 or 4-4(I know) after 8 weeks. I had us losing at home to Atlanta because Atlanta is playing us and Carolina b2b at home again, in which NO always seems to be the loss in that scenario. Then I had us going on a 7-0 run.

The concern on the latter record is our history after falling to 4-5. If history repeated itself we would get swept by TB. Then the purpose to take advantage of Carolina's losing goes out the door. It would go downhill fast. But we'd like to believe we have a good enough team that can fight itself out of a 4-5 conundrum this time and not let history repeat itself.

TB did not play well against Seattle in 2015 either game when he was with Minnesota. Of course Seattle had Sherman and Chancellor then. But if we can pull out this win at Seattle, that would be big because I'm not feeling a win against Dallas.

Was it Darren Woodson that was back in April or so talking about if the Cowboys went 3-0 they would have history or something on their side against us? Well, he might be right because Drew got hurt to allow it.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

That's who I wanted. I knew the kid was special

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

This sucks. Roger is some where flying high right now.

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Payton is not going down easy he don’t want to be remembered as a good coach because he had a QB. He’s going to coach these boys up this weekend.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Is the sky falling. We got this.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

It's his dream scenario! Now he just has to make sure the Rams keep winning so they can be blown out in the Super bowl.:doh:

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

I think Sean Payton will pull some real rabbits out of his hat, but I dont
think we'll do it on gadgetry alone... I think something will light a fire
under the D backfield, as the D Line isnt that far off.

Yes. 4-4 is doable

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

Honestly, 7-1 is doable. This roster is Super Bowl worthy with Drew Brees. With full time practice with the ones and a skill set specific game plan by Sean Payton the Saints are still good enough to beat anyone on our schedule. It appears that the locker room isn't taking the same defeatist attitude that some of the media and fan base are adopting. They are fired up and ready to rally.

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Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks
 

But is that on the players or coaching/scheme?

I mean, when I saw Latt lined up 7 yards off Kupp on 3rd and short, we have no chance. That's just stealing. Easy completion.

Re: Saints QB Drew Brees to have surgery to repair torn ligament in thumb, expected to miss 6 weeks